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Didn't we get Pickett, Boekhurst,Sumner and Cunningham for Speed?
 
HARKER said:
I can't see SOS banking on anyone being a certainty next year.
You just wouldn't do it. It would be something if it did come about, but you couldn't plan around it.

Big bodies are good but football smarts are better....and SPS has it in spades.
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You are right when you say that you can't bank on things until they are locked away as the Franklin and Boyd cases prove .
But Silvagni is the list manager we've never had before and I'm sure there is a big picture plan in place .
If a player of Fyfe's status is indeed coming to Melbourne , i think we can rest assured that plans are already under way with the club of his choosing .
 

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Red Bull said:
You are right when you say that you can't bank on things until they are locked away as the Franklin and Boyd cases prove .
But Silvagni is the list manager we've never had before and I'm sure there is a big picture plan in place .
If a player of Fyfe's status is indeed coming to Melbourne , i think we can rest assured that plans are already under way with the club of his choosing .
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Yes, plans would be underway, but guarantees just can't be put in place.
Contracts can't be signed and in-principle agreements don't carry much weight.

What if Fyfe does his knee or worse? What would the CFC do?
What if Fyfe now receives an offer 30% more from elsewhere? He changes his mind and what can we do?
 
ParapMarkets said:
I actually like the fact Dodoro is keeping things so quiet, it will make the draft more fascinating. If he takes McCluggage it will change things up considerably.

I can't wait for Friday afternoon to watch it all unfold.
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A lot of people don't like Dodoro.

But he is a smart guy and does a good job for his club.
 
HARKER said:
Yes, plans would be underway, but guarantees just can't be put in place.
Contracts can't be signed and in-principle agreements don't carry much weight.

What if Fyfe does his knee or worse? What would the CFC do?
What if Fyfe now receives an offer 30% more from elsewhere? He changes his mind and what can we do?
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All we can do is plan strategically and then do our best to carry it out .
Footy is a constantly changing landscape but the big picture masterplan must be in place .
 
GoBlues! said:
Don't forget Brisbane have pick 3 and if there's a better player around than Bowes, why risk making a bid and not get the player you really want.

Also, don't see much difference between Carlton helping the Hawks out with JOM trade (stuffed if I know why we did), and the Lions and GCS helping each other out.
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SOS has publicly stated he wanted more late picks due to the depth in the draft.

I don't understand how people cannot get their head around this

Especially since the pick we gave up is likely to be around pick 40 anyway.
 

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TheHeatleyStand said:
He's the best player in the draft but its those preconceived thoughts that well have us take him at five.. and if it happens ,I love it! Stereotypes and tin foil hats are gold
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There is a massive difference between "most talented" and "best".

I suspect SPS is the most talented.

Time will tell if he turns out to be the best.
 
ParapMarkets said:
I think it is the fact that he is not a big ball winner, people talk about him like he is a sure thing but he averaged 21 disposals per game at TAC. Those aren't great numbers when you take into account his skills. He has great hands and I do like him but the more I look at it I think pick 5 is a slight reach.
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Yes but the sheer numbers of mids this year means that they are sharing the ball around more.
 
Jesse Deluxe said:
Im hoping we stay away from SPS.... too culturally diverse for us to gamble on. Indigenous boys from back grounds like his require time, patience and experience in dealing with. These have never been a strong point for Carlton. Things that the average Indigenous kid has seen and done is unfathomable compared to a kid from the suburbs or a leading private school. The harsh Melbourne afl environment is something most indigenous kids never get use too.

I love his story and hope he becomes the next Rioli. But Carlton can not afford to risk this Pick 5. All these kids are talented but picking the "right kid" is just as important as how fast / skilful he is.

Let a more talented team take the risk/reward scenario SPS.

Stick to a player we know is going to be a 200 gamer for Carlton not a player that will potentially.

Remember we are one of the worst lists in the AFL can't afford any risk with pick 5. Unfortunately picking SPS has maybe just a little.
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Halls Creek is miles from anywhere, and yes he would need to adapt to living in any capital city. But so would a lot of kids from the country.

But SPS wants to play AFL, wants to make his family proud, be a role model for other kids from his home town, and play in Melbourne. There are a lot of strong motivations driving this kid and with the right coach (like Bolton) and support structures at the club we'd be crazy to pass on SPS in this draft.
 
Funk said:
There is a massive difference between "most talented" and "best".

I suspect SPS is the most talented.

Time will tell if he turns out to be the best.
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If he is the most talented and they all play up to their full potential then he is going to be the best!.. who will and who wont is an unknown.right?
 
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rog1995 said:
Didn't we get Pickett, Boekhurst,Sumner and Cunningham for Speed?
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The problem is not one of them is a certainty to make it and all have big question marks over them.

If we even thought we were a 30% chance of getting Fyfe then I would be all over getting SPS and hopefully C.Cox or Boulton with our second. We will always be able to find a contested ball winner next year
 

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F the Rest said:
It all comes down to the hammies. Were they the reason for drifting in and out of games and his overall poor 2016 numbers? Is it bad luck or something else? Will they hold him back at AFL level?
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Hammies aren't hard to fix.

You'd be surprised how poor some strength coaches are at AFL clubs are.
Dont assume they're the best in the business.

Hamstrings are injuries that shouldn't occur as frequently as they do in our game. Its due to poor training and muscle imbalances. Train like NFL and they wont get hammie issues.
 
GapInIkonPark said:
2016 prospect Sam Petrevski-Seton was called up after a rest and showed his class all day, winning the hard ball and executing with class outside the contest. His defensive pressure was also a highlight, laying some crunching tackles and bumps rarely seen in junior football.

Source: https://www.boundforglorynews.com.au/national-championships-round-5-wrap/
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Averaged 18 possessions at a DE of 48% across the National Carnival and his kicking efficiency was only 38%. Hardly anything to write home about, especially for someone of his talents. Luke Bunker averaged 22 possessions at 72% DE with KE of 60% and laid just as many tackles at the same carnival. People on this board belt the crap of of Kerridge who has a DE of 61%, because he burns the ball. How hard will they go at SPS if he runs at 48%. Yes, SPS will get drafted about 50 places ahead of Bunker, but the simple reality is that Bunker has already demonstrated he can handle a step up in class and pressure without it adversely affecting his game.

Be under no illusions, I'll be quite happy if SOS drafts SPS, but at least attempt to keep some objectivity in your claims rather than simply quote some star-crossed journo.
 
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