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95bluemember said:
Wouldn't be surprised at all if we go Marshall at 5, some good mids will still be there later on this draft
That's if ainsworth is gone already.
I think our first pick will either be
Ainsworth
Marshall
Or brodie
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LemmingMaster said:
Which aspect is the risk?
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Major concern - Go Home factor (and yes I know what he said about playing in Melbourne - but most of the recruits who have gone home have previously said they would be happy to play anywhere as long as they get picked). We have been lucky with White/Armfield/Boekhorst, but given how may picks we have wasted in the last few years I think we should be going for the lowest percentage risk of Go Home factor and grab a Victorian kid (unashamedly biased for Taranto btw)

Minor concern - Consistency and fade outs. One of his biggest knocks. Like I've posted elsewhere, I'd rather a dependable consistent player than a flashy inconsistent player.
 
Realistically no one has any idea who SOS rates it could be SPS, Hayward, Scrimshaw, Florent, Logue or Berry for all we know - this makes it all the more exciting.
 

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Really looking forward to tuning in tonight.

It is amazing just how open this draft seems to be. We're just a few hours away but still there is a great deal of uncertainty as to how things will fall at the top end.

I don't recall a draft quite like it, to be honest.

At pick 5 there still seems to be a group of 6 or so players who could genuinely be considered.
 
Itll be SPS, Ainsworth, Scrimshaw or Brodie in that order. Marshall will be late 1st round.

McGrath, McCluggage and Taranto will all be gone.
 
The Smoking Gun said:
Spoke to Brett Anderson, SEN Draft Expert, a little while ago who was kind enough to take my call off air.

Me: Will GWS be able to into deficit (using points from next years ND picks) to match bids on their academy players, given potential draft penalties pending for next year???

BA: It's a very good question to which I don't have a definitive answer for, but I suspect GWS were given a "heads-up" not to trade picks 15 & 37 for this year.

Me: Who will you be speaking to when you arrive in Sydney later this morning to find out???

BA: Gillon McLachlan or Mark Evans as Andrew Dillon is unlikely to be there. I'll be definitely doing some investigation when I get up there though.

Me: How many of the Academy boys do you think GWS will draft???

BA: Assuming that Essendon don't bid on Setterfield at #1, Setterfield, Perryman, Cumming & I think GWS may have made some commitment to Macreadie when they moved him to Sydney. Of course it depends where the bids come in, e.g. there's a rumour that Sydney may bid on Cumming with either #9 or #19. I think that Mutch gets to the open draft, Sproule gets to the open draft....and as do most if not all of the others. It will become very interesting though if they're unable to go into deficit and bids come early.

Me: How strong are the Phantom Drafts this year as to who you think will go where???

BA: Well for once the clubs are keeping their cards close to their chest. While Essendon will take either McGrath or McCluggage, with GWS it's much less clear. You could make a case for Taranto, Petrevski-Seton, McCluggage, McGrath, Ainsworth or even Bowes. Taranto could go as early as #2 or as late as #9. Whoever Essendon and more importantly GWS take at #2 will determine how the rest fall. Last year was easy because we had a full-blown rehearsal with the introduction of the new system so we knew who everyone was taking all the way out to #30 by the middle of the day.

Me: Know you're on the way to the airport so thanks for taking the call.

BA: Anytime and only too happy to answer peoples questions. Will definitely check out the "lay of the land" on your first question.

Good bloke Brett. Probably one of his busiest days of the year where everyone wants a piece of his time and he still found time to take my call off air on his way to the airport. Let's hope he gets a scoop on something no one else has asked about. :thumbsu:
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Thanks for sharing, that gives a really good insight.
 
If you go by the final phantom drafts of Twomey and Quayle, would be a surprise if we didn't end up with SPS, as both had us taking him with our first pick, and both I think would have pretty reliable mail.
 
My personal belief, with absolutely all the phantom drafters not even mentioning Brodie in the picture for us, is that we will take Scrimshaw if SPS is taken. I think SPS has scared off the Queensland teams with his desire to play in Melbourne so I think if he gets past GWS he will be ours.
 
TerryWallet said:
Gimme Bishop's draft for us now and watch me take it and run.

5. SPS
25. Hayward
48. Atley
61. Poholke
63. Garthwaite

The first 4 are just about exactly who i'd want at those picks. Of course it won't happen, but.....
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The telecast starts at 6.30pm EST, but what time will they actually start selecting players (ie. how long are they going to drag it out for)?
 

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MileHigh said:
The telecast starts at 6.30pm EST, but what time will they actually start selecting players (ie. how long are they going to drag it out for)?
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Last year's first pick was read out 40 minutes after the start of the telecast
 
BluesRule said:
We will all be considered racists if we do not take SPS according to some comments above. Not sure why the racists comments have come out as I think the comments I have read on here are focused on his talent and go home risk as a WA kid. This year several WA kids went home in the trade period. We almost lost Gibbs because he is from SA. We previously got Doc because he was from Vic. If we pick an interstate kid they have an additional risk attached.

That said I like SPS's skills, but would refer a bigger bodied player like Taranto or Brodie more as there skills are also very good (both all Australians this year/SPS was not) and I think Brodie is Cripps like in potential.

If drafting in hindsight lets look at 2013:

2013 draft
Pick 1: Tom Boyd (GWS)
Pick 2: Josh Kelly (GWS)
Pick 3: Jack Billings (St Kilda)
Pick 4: Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs)
Pick 5: Kade Kolodjashnij (Gold Coast)
Pick 6: Matthew Scharenberg (Collingwood)
Pick 7: James Aish (Brisbane)
Pick 8: Luke McDonald (F/S – North Melbourne)
Pick 9: Christian Salem (Melbourne)
Pick 10: Nathan Freeman (Collingwood)

Pick 13: Pat Cripps

If you were drafting this again I think Pat Cripps goes far earlier, as the experts are not perfect.

Brodie at #5 is a bargain this year. So if SPS is picked I will not be unhappy but I prefer others.
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I think the big difference between Brodie and players like Cripps and Bont in their draft year is that after the champs, Cripps went on to have some dominant games (I think he had a game where he got over 45 disposals), and the Bont had many 40 plus disposal games. They both showed the ability to work their arses off and put in 4 quarter performances. There is absolutely none of that from Brodie, if anything his form tapered off at the back end of the season. He only had 1 game for the entire season where he got 30 disposals, he has very rarely given a four quarter performance according to quite a few.

Who knows maybe he will become the absolute gun you think, but if you are able to forget the mid-season hype and look at the numbers, there is a big difference between what this guy has shown and what a guy like Cripps had shown. Conversely, with SPS you are seeing this small statured kid who is going to be another James Aish. I think SPS's ability to win his own ball will stand him in good stead when compared to those top ten picks of smaller stature.
 
Jimmae said:
Why? The big differences are an earlier bid on Cumming and a slight reshuffle of two talls in the 20s. That's it. The Cumming bid is the only twist.
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She has English as a massive slider for one.
 

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ParapMarkets said:
I think the big difference between Brodie and players like Cripps and Bont in their draft year is that after the champs, Cripps went on to have some dominant games (I think he had a game where he got over 45 disposals), and the Bont had many 40 plus disposal games. They both showed the ability to work their arses off and put in 4 quarter performances. There is absolutely none of that from Brodie, if anything his form tapered off at the back end of the season. He only had 1 game for the entire season where he got 30 disposals, he has very rarely given a four quarter performance according to quite a few.

Who knows maybe he will become the absolute gun you think, but if you are able to forget the mid-season hype and look at the numbers, there is a big difference between what this guy has shown and what a guy like Cripps had shown. Conversely, with SPS you are seeing this small statured kid who is going to be another James Aish. I think SPS's ability to win his own ball will stand him in good stead when compared to those top ten picks of smaller stature.
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I hope like hell, he is not another Aish.
 
ferrisb said:
To be fair, the AFL and ASADA only had 18 months to investigate.

And they had to do complicated things like read a few text messages and interview like 4 people....
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Just ridiculuos he's obviously guilty just hand out the approrpiate punchiment.
MileHigh said:
Itll be SPS, Ainsworth, Scrimshaw or Brodie in that order. Marshall will be late 1st round.

McGrath, McCluggage and Taranto will all be gone.
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Yeah agree MileHigh sounds about right, I'll be stoked if we land SPS , in Silvagni & Brodie we trust, WooWee I meant Silvagni & Bolton.
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