2016 Forwards

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Cloke will see more of the ball like i said excellent midfield delivery and cheaper

But he has to score to make the cheaoer oart pay off.
He reached his ceiling in 2011 when they won the flag. Hasn't done anything much since.

 

[SterlingArcher]

Robbo ceiling IMO is a 85avg this year, he will never grow up!

SC is all about finding roughies in the dirt! I am not taking blokes who i think cannot beat least seasons average when that avg is in the 80's/low 90's.

Disposal is questionable at best and ball butcher comes to mind.

30 possies for him is a 90pt SC game which is not good enough.

You will always find it hard to pick a forward when you exaggerate.

Sure, Robbo is arguable. Seems like he has grown up if you read the numerous reports on it in the past year, as well as looking at his performances. Gives away frees yes, but didn't get reported at all in 2015 (pretty sure he didn't anyway, definitely no suspension). But when you get 7 tackles a game and attack the ball like he does, inevitable some will be frees. His tackles and contested possessions more than make up for it. Probably more so for Robbo because he doesn't get the cheap little tackles where the player could have been tackled by anyone of 6 opponents, he works hard for them which means sometimes they won't be technically perfect.

I don't disagree that Greene is a butcherer, however, he's had about 17 30+ disposal games and gone over 100 (close to 110 really) 13 times...3/4 times he didn't GWS got absolutely thrashed which was just as much an issue as his disposal (85 points from 31 disposals in a 96 point loss to Sydney and 81 points from 31 disposals in a 129 point loss to North in 2012, 91 points from 31 disposals in a 60 point loss to Brisbane in 2013, 95 points from 33 disposals in a 111 point loss to WC in 2014). If you hold it against a first/second year player to ton up in floggings then eh good luck picking players.

There's no perfect forward pick (apart from Martin in my opinion). Arguments against all. Greene especially should be good for 92-96 at least with more midfield time, if he gets 30 disposals in wins he will get 110+ and GWS should be good this year.

 

[Daniel McL]

But he has to score to make the cheaoer oart pay off.
He reached his ceiling in 2011 when they won the flag. Hasn't done anything much since.

 

[OhhhhhCyril]

Agree with Buddy, I know his el cheap, but I am not confident. Anyone Gonna pay big coin for Joey? I am thinking about it..

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

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Haha out by 1 year. 10+ pints will do that to ya.

 

[Daniels]

Wells.

Looking at picking him as a 'expensive rookie priced' type.

Getting sucked in. I feel light-headed and dizzy now.

 

[stevebbb]

Wells.

Looking at picking him as a 'expensive rookie priced' type.

Getting sucked in. I feel light-headed and dizzy now.

I didn't get a chance to see him play yesterday but his stats were promising, 98 points from 73% ToG.
With his scoring history and assuming he's fit and ready to go round 1, seems like a no brainer @ $245k

 

[Daniels]

I didn't get a chance to see him play yesterday but his stats were promising, 98 points from 73% ToG.
With his scoring history and assuming he's fit and ready to go round 1, seems like a no brainer @ $245k

Yup! Exactly. Think 248k but who is counting.

I'm dizzy again.

 

[Me Myself and I]

Yup! Exactly. Think 248k but who is counting.

I'm dizzy again.

Well, here's a way to get double dizzy.
Besides Wells have D.Menzel in your team as well if they both make it to round 1.
Can they both make it to round 8 unscathed? Real high risk and reward in this.
Who's up for it??

 

[Daniels]

Well, here's a way to get double dizzy.
Besides Wells have D.Menzel in your team as well if they both make it to round 1.
Can they both make it to round 8 unscathed? Real high risk and reward in this.
Who's up for it??

I need to have a lay down now and cuddle my teddy bear

 

[buttox]

anyone got half time sc scores?
would be greatly appreciated

 

[Souup]

Vandenberg looking really good again and then decides to do his ankle.

Great.

 

[Hairy Lager]

I didn't get a chance to see him play yesterday but his stats were promising, 98 points from 73% ToG.
With his scoring history and assuming he's fit and ready to go round 1, seems like a no brainer @ $245k

Been in my team since like forever...yeah LIKE BEFORE LAST YEAR MAN!
6 x 600 here I come.

 

[Hairy Lager]

Well, here's a way to get double dizzy.
Besides Wells have D.Menzel in your team as well if they both make it to round 1.
Can they both make it to round 8 unscathed? Real high risk and reward in this.
Who's up for it??

Ok, now back off buddy, remove yourself from my property at once. Dam crazies around here!

 

[Souup]

Vandenberg looking really good again and then decides to do his ankle.

Great.

66SC from 54% game time (missing the whole last quarter where heaps of points were given for a time when the game was close and in the balance)

If his ankle isn't serious and he plays Round 1 I'm still going with him.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

I didn't get a chance to see him play yesterday but his stats were promising, 98 points from 73% ToG.
With his scoring history and assuming he's fit and ready to go round 1, seems like a no brainer @ $245k

If by no brainer you mean you need to remove yours before pressing the little green cross next to Wells name, then yes I agree.

 

[JustInsideFifty]

Well, here's a way to get double dizzy.
Besides Wells have D.Menzel in your team as well if they both make it to round 1.
Can they both make it to round 8 unscathed? Real high risk and reward in this.
Who's up for it??

Locked in at F3 and F4... gotta love midpricers! (til rd 3 anyway)

 

[big bootaaaaah]

Yup! Exactly. Think 248k but who is counting.

I'm dizzy again.

The problem with mid pricers is they get stuck in your team. A 120k rookie can make money faster even if they score a tad less, moo then you trade them. If you pick mid pricers you need to pick ones that are keepers eg, libba. Why pay 250k for a guy who will Moo slower than a decent 120k rookie?...unless you intend keeping him. I'd be trading him at 400k and so that's a burnt trade for a slowly made 150k if he even gets there. Not worth it for a 80 - 90 tops injury prone dude IMO.

 

[Double the Fist]

The problem with mid pricers is they get stuck in your team. A 120k rookie can make money faster even if they score a tad less, moo then you trade them. If you pick mid pricers you need to pick ones that are keepers eg, libba. Why pay 250k for a guy who will Moo slower than a decent 120k rookie?...unless you intend keeping him. I'd be trading him at 400k and so that's a burnt trade for a slowly made 150k if he even gets there. Not worth it for a 80 - 90 tops injury prone dude IMO.

I'm sure people know this. People, including me are searching for back door ways for cheap players that have good JS when we deem there is none with the lower priced ones.
Its so crazy, it might just work....

 

[catstragic]

The problem with mid pricers is they get stuck in your team. A 120k rookie can make money faster even if they score a tad less, moo then you trade them. If you pick mid pricers you need to pick ones that are keepers eg, libba. Why pay 250k for a guy who will Moo slower than a decent 120k rookie?...unless you intend keeping him. I'd be trading him at 400k and so that's a burnt trade for a slowly made 150k if he even gets there. Not worth it for a 80 - 90 tops injury prone dude IMO.

That is true, but it assumes that there will be enough 120k rooks getting games till they peak. This year people are spending 200k + on rooks anyway, so spending another 20% on a player with dpp and good scoring history makes more sense than it has in the past.

 

[stevebbb]

The problem with mid pricers is they get stuck in your team. A 120k rookie can make money faster even if they score a tad less, moo then you trade them. If you pick mid pricers you need to pick ones that are keepers eg, libba. Why pay 250k for a guy who will Moo slower than a decent 120k rookie?...unless you intend keeping him. I'd be trading him at 400k and so that's a burnt trade for a slowly made 150k if he even gets there. Not worth it for a 80 - 90 tops injury prone dude IMO.

This point is flawed. Sure we all want ~$120k rookies that will play 10 games in a row and score decently, but we don't get enough them. We are forced to pay more for high price cash cows. I will happily pay $250k for Wells knowing he can score decently with a good chance he'll make it to $400k, than somebody like Adams who might play round 1, but then get dropped for Collins in round 2.

 

[big bootaaaaah]

I'm sure people know this. People, including me are searching for back door ways for cheap players that have good JS when we deem there is none with the lower priced ones.
Its so crazy, it might just work....

It certainly could work he's an incredible talent. Knowing my luck this will be the year he finally comes through.

 

[big bootaaaaah]

This point is flawed. Sure we all want ~$120k rookies that will play 10 games in a row and score decently, but we don't get enough them. We are forced to pay more for high price cash cows. I will happily pay $250k for Wells knowing he can score decently with a good chance he'll make it to $400k, than somebody like Adams who might play round 1, but then get dropped for Collins in round 2.

True that would be disastrous, but don't forget by getting mid pricers you are possibly downgrading your initial teams guns somewhere. I think Wells 250k price tag is a conundrum with no right or wrong answer ATM.

 

[stevebbb]

True that would be disastrous, but don't forget by getting mid pricers you are possibly downgrading your initial teams guns somewhere. I think Wells 250k price tag is a conundrum with no right or wrong answer ATM.

Wells 2016 is like Higgins 2014.

Both ~$250k starting price and with decent scoring history.

Higgins played 20 games in 2014 (missed games later in the year, rds 17 & 18) and averaged 76.4 (with 7 scores over 85).

Sure Wells is older than Higgins was in 2014 (Wells just turned 31, Higgins was 26), but he's fit and looks raring to go.

Worth the risk imo

 

[catstragic]

I wonder what Wells ceiling will be this year?
I think the majority are expecting an 80-90 average out of him at best, but its possible he may score a bit better than that.
North have improved in all areas since he was injured and outside players are really dependant on supply from contested players, of which North has plenty.
I wouldnt be at all surprised if he puts out some big scores playing weaker teams, and he may end up a keeper as a loophole option later in the season (a la cripps last year).
I dont expect half of that to happen but he has such a huge upside for 250k.