List Mgmt. 2016 Free Agency/Trades/Draft thread Part 3

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I thought he was coming although I have no idea. It was speculated on Fiveaa.

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Yeah, it was speculated, it sounded like it was pretty much a done deal. But here we are weeks later and nothing has happened, which is why I was wondering if either (a) it was just unfounded speculation or (b) the club and/or Sumich decided they weren't interested anymore after all or (c) they're just REALLY dragging things out.
 

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Reference the Red Carpet. That " Everyone" is broken down into what the genders are looking at. As a woman I'm looking at the dresses, the hairstyles, shoes etc and men are possibly looking at everything else but !!
Interesting discussion with Adam Treloar the other night about his partner and Brownlow night and he revealed that she hates the attention and comments that occur because of the red carpet and if there was a way to get in without walking past the cameras she would. So he makes sure to try and stop as little as possible so that she isn't uncomfortable for too long.
 

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Yeah, it was speculated, it sounded like it was pretty much a done deal. But here we are weeks later and nothing has happened, which is why I was wondering if either (a) it was just unfounded speculation or (b) the club and/or Sumich decided they weren't interested anymore after all or (c) they're just REALLY dragging things out.
But they were speculating last night. Seemed likely but who knows with our club.

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Interesting discussion with Adam Treloar the other night about his partner and Brownlow night and he revealed that she hates the attention and comments that occur because of the red carpet and if there was a way to get in without walking past the cameras she would. So he makes sure to try and stop as little as possible so that she isn't uncomfortable for too long.
Some people do enjoy their privacy
 

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Gee if we could reverse 2 trade periods we would have been a much stronger team.. 2000 -Bode and Hewitt when the picks ended up Shaun Burgoyne and Drew Petrie.
2002 - Carey and Torney for Wells, K Johnson and J Schultz

In saying that our trading has been pretty decent going right back.
 

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If this was the case we would be in the box seat. Most affordable AFL city in the country. $400k in Adelaide goes a lot further than on the eastern seaboard or even Perth. Problem is, people don't want to come here.
I live in Perth and have a $500k mortgage in a nice house we've had for five years. If you kept my income and all other cost of living exactly the same except for housing, I'd be close to mortgage free. AFL is one of the few industries you can earn the same income as interstate yet have very low cost of living.

Amazed footballers aren't jumping at the chance to set themselves up for life by going to Adelaide.

Is AFC marketing itself well in enough in this regard? In all seriousness, should part of their recruiting strategy be to show wealth accumulation in Adelaide vs other states?
 

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I've gone right back through the drafts there's barely been a glaring error, most of the super star players were taken before we even had our first pick anyway.

It's probably our trades where we lost picks that could have netted us stars if we kept them that let us down.
 

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Gee if we could reverse 2 trade periods we would have been a much stronger team.. 2000 -Bode and Hewitt when the picks ended up Shaun Burgoyne and Drew Petrie.
2002 - Carey and Torney for Wells, K Johnson and J Schultz

In saying that our trading has been pretty decent going right back.
Kane Johnson wanted to go, so we had to let him go. Torney was a great player for us, that was the best part of that trade. As for Carey... yeah, with hindsight we should have just taken the pick from Richmond and drafted Wells or any number of other good, long term players from that draft. But at the time we'd just lost a prelim final, everybody reckoned the one thing we were lacking was a good key forward, and one of the all-time greats was available. If we hadn't gone after Carey then everybody would have complained that we didn't have a go at him.
 

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If this was the case we would be in the box seat. Most affordable AFL city in the country. $400k in Adelaide goes a lot further than on the eastern seaboard or even Perth. Problem is, people don't want to come here.
That's still suggesting offering the same deal they're getting offered in states they'd either prefer to live in or already live in by have a bit of a 'win' by being in a more affordable city.

You offer them more than what they're being offered elsewhere and they'll seriously consider us, it's how we got Betts over the line ahead of North Melbourne. Give them a contract better then what they're being offered elsewhere and more often than not they'll take it imo.
 

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A first rounder ?? I like your optimism but I can't see JL being worth that. If we ended up with a pick in the mid 20s we would have done a very good deal.
I'd be curious, if someone had the time - last 5 years picks taken between 15-20.

Forgetting the diamonds in the rough, I doubt many of them would be better players than Lyons - who still have improvement left in him.
 

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what i would do this trade period.

Trade pick 13 to carlton for gibbs
Trade lyons to north for wells comp. pick (20-25) ontrade this pick and mackay to brisbane for rockliff.
Henderson leaves via fa nets us a pick at the end of the 2nd rd. (38-43)
Trade douglas to gold coast for pick 25.
We lose henderson, douglas, mackay, lyons, our first rd pick.
We gain rockliff, gibbs, an early 2nd rd pick and a late 2nd rd pick.
Go to the draft with 25, 38, 50, 68, 86(upgrade rookie)
 

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I've gone right back through the drafts there's barely been a glaring error, most of the super star players were taken before we even had our first pick anyway.

It's probably our trades where we lost picks that could have netted us stars if we kept them that let us down.
ams4crows - have you got draftees taken 15-25 over the last five years?
 

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I'd be curious, if someone had the time - last 5 years picks taken between 15-20.

Forgetting the diamonds in the rough, I doubt many of them would be better players than Lyons - who still have improvement left in him.
From memory Fyfe was pick 19 or 20. May be a strong outlier over an extended period however
 

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I'm assuming you have sources?
Called Eddie. Look at any of her interviews discussing it, and he has talked about how the Crows offered more money and if Carlton upped theirs a bit closer (not match) he would have stayed at Carlton.
 
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