List Mgmt. 2016 Free Agency/Trades/Draft thread Part 3

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Holy Cow, i just realised Ben Jarman in available in this year's draft

I've always thought it was next year's

COME ON YOU MOTHER******S BRING THAT BABY HOME*

If we don't pick him, you know he will become a star somewhere else - like, say, HAWTHORN - c'mon guys, do it


* EDIT: as in, if Ben still has to make a selection, we should have been throwing the kitchen sink at him and his old man.
 

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ams4crows - have you got draftees taken 15-25 over the last five years?
2011
21 Tom Mitchell (f/s)
22 Josh Boots make
23 Murray Newman
24 Henry Schade
25 Seb Ross

2012
21 Nathan Hrovat
22 Dean Towers
23 Marco Paparone
24 Nathan Wright
25 Spencer Wright

2013
21 Jarman Impey
22 Darcy Gardiner
23 Matt Crouch
24 Billy Hartington
25 Daniel McStay

2014
21 Hugh Goddard
22 Daniel McKenzie
23 Patrick McKenna
24 Jack Steele
25 Daniel Nielson

2015
21 Ben McKay
22 Kieran Lovell
23 David Cunningham
24 Ben Keys (academy)
25 Josh Dunkley
 

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Holy Cow, i just realised Ben Jarman in available in this year's draft
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* EDIT: as in, if Ben still has to make a selection, we should have been throwing the kitchen sink at him and his old man.
Looking at the size of Fudd, I think we have been throwing the kitchen sink and even the kitchen at him.
 

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Mark Bickley would be keen.

Speaking of assistants, did anything ever come from those rumblings a while back about Peter Sumich coming across to the Crows? Our season has been over for several weeks now but haven't really seen too many moves happening on the coaching front.
Caro said last night it's a done deal. Big get. Big. Huge.
 

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Yeah .....Milera certainly one of the skinnier 18YO's i've seen .......he won't fill-out at all :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

For a young kid in first afl season I loved his attack on the man.

Remember him ironing out a few bigger players during the season with perfectly timed bumps.

Saw him do it a number of times at afl level too.

He is going to be a star without question.
 

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Caro said last night it's a done deal. Big get. Big. Huge.
Well she was wrong there as it was just announced in a news article that he is going to coach the WA under 18's on a 2 year contract and has declined Adelaide's advances to be an assistant.. Wonder who we are actually speaking to for that role, has been a while now.. Surely something is happening.
 

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Holy Cow, i just realised Ben Jarman in available in this year's draft

I've always thought it was next year's

COME ON YOU MOTHERgooseS BRING THAT BABY HOME*

If we don't pick him, you know he will become a star somewhere else - like, say, HAWTHORN - c'mon guys, do it


* EDIT: as in, if Ben still has to make a selection, we should have been throwing the kitchen sink at him and his old man.
I value my kitchen sink. It would get lost in Darren
 

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What this shows is that anyone we draft won't be a regular player for 3 years, and that is only about a 50% chance. Adds fuel to the trade picks for quality players for as we need contributors now. And keep lyons as well unless he is part of the trade in getting a quality mid
To put it into context, Lyons was drafted in 2010 and has played 55 AFL games.

Here is the 15-25 list from his draft class:
1 15 Geelong Billie Smedts Geelong 38
1 16 Port Adelaide Ben Jacobs North Melbourne 77
1 17 North Melbourne Shaun Atley North Melbourne 132
1 18 Carlton Matthew Watson 23
1 19 Hawthorn Isaac Smith Hawthorn 135
1 20 Fremantle Jayden Pitt 10
1 21 Sydney Jed Lamb Carlton 37
1 22 Father/Son Western Bulldogs Mitchell Wallis Western Bulldogs 93
1 23 Geelong Cameron Guthrie Geelong 108
1 24 St Kilda Jamie Cripps West Coast 98
1 25 Brisbane Patrick Karnezis 25

6 of 11 have played more than Lyons. 5 of 11 have played less.

Here's the 26-35 group (same draft):


26 Priority West Coast Jack Darling West Coast 128
2 27 North Melbourne Kieran Harper 40
2 28 Brisbane Ryan Lester Brisbane 80
2 29 West Coast Scott Lycett West Coast 49
2 30 Richmond Jake Batchelor Richmond 83
2 31 Essendon Ariel Steinberg 10
2 32 Brisbane Joshua Green Brisbane 81
2 33 Melbourne Jeremy Howe Collingwood 120
2 34 Carlton Patrick McCarthy 1
2 35 Port Adelaide Ben Newton Melbourne 17

5 of 10 have played more, 5 of 10 have played less. Lycett (49 games) is reasonably close to Lyons (55) total.

Looks to me as if a 26-35 pick is about fair for Lyons.
 

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Of course, Charlie Cameron doesn't even have the value of a top 10 pick. Perhaps an early second.
Which means there little value in trading him at all. He's worth more to us than what he is on the open market. It's a buyers market.

TBH, despite his numbers and this "low productivity" tripe I'd be ****ing pissed if we traded CC. Can't even believe there's suggestions of it.
 

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When did Menzel ever become a mid? Doesn't have the tank or the heart.
Why just why? More talented and has built a good tank this year and has shown plenty of heart in games played in 2nd half of year. I'm furious at Captain:mad:;)
 

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Well she was wrong there as it was just announced in a news article that he is going to coach the WA under 18's on a 2 year contract and has declined Adelaide's advances to be an assistant.. Wonder who we are actually speaking to for that role, has been a while now.. Surely something is happening.
Well that's just awkward now ...
 

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Well she was wrong there as it was just announced in a news article that he is going to coach the WA under 18's on a 2 year contract and has declined Adelaide's advances to be an assistant.. Wonder who we are actually speaking to for that role, has been a while now.. Surely something is happening.
Darren Glass perhaps?
 

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Darren Glass perhaps?
I thought he didn't want to move out of WA? I think he signed on as some kind of leadership consultant or something when Phil Walsh took over, but my understanding is that he was just working remotely or over here for a day or two every now and again. Unless he's changed his mind and wants to get more involved?
 

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How so ? .....you know him ? ......you seen him work??? ......you know why he failed at every senior coaching job interview ......so why is it "big get, Big, Huge"
He's very highly rated. Disappointed it didn't turn out.

He's established in Perth, would take a big offer or opportunity for him to leave there. Him coming to us would have not just been a big get, but a big statement.
 

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I thought he didn't want to move out of WA? I think he signed on as some kind of leadership consultant or something when Phil Walsh took over, but my understanding is that he was just working remotely or over here for a day or two every now and again. Unless he's changed his mind and wants to get more involved?
I thought it was because he was studying a MBA at the time. May be done now?
 

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what i would do this trade period.

Trade pick 13 to carlton for gibbs
Trade lyons to north for wells comp. pick (20-25) ontrade this pick and mackay to brisbane for rockliff.
Henderson leaves via fa nets us a pick at the end of the 2nd rd. (38-43)
Trade douglas to gold coast for pick 25.
We lose henderson, douglas, mackay, lyons, our first rd pick.
We gain rockliff, gibbs, an early 2nd rd pick and a late 2nd rd pick.
Go to the draft with 25, 38, 50, 68, 86(upgrade rookie)
You want fries with that?
 

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http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/bri...m/news-story/d2fa569b4c43c6848e8f7ef2ffcb2c15

THE likelihood of Tom Rockliff remaining at Brisbane appears slim, with Lions list manager Peter Schwab admitting the club is yet to make a decision on the captain’s future and declaring a deal that could see him leave was “open for discussion”.

It has been suggested that he wants out of the Lions while also being linked to a couple of rival clubs, including Adelaide.

“The other matter becomes a discussion with Tom as to where he’s at in his football. Does he really want to stay and commit to the Brisbane Lions? Or do the Brisbane Lions want to commit to Tom? That’s a discussion that’s ongoing.

When asked whether the Lions wanted to keep Rockliff, Schwab said: “Right at the moment we do.”

But Schwab added: “We’ve not put anything off the table, so it’s open for discussion.”
Make it happen AFC.
 

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Poster on our board being told from someone within our club that the discussion at the moment is Gibbs and #24 for Lyons and #13. I personally think it's probably leaning your way as a great trade, but not something I would spit the dummy over. IMO, it should be Gibbs and our third pick for Lyons and 13.

Not a 'done deal' at all - just apparently where the discussions are at for the moment. Take with as much salt as required for taste.
 

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Poster on our board being told from someone within our club that the discussion at the moment is Gibbs and #24 for Lyons and #13. I personally think it's probably leaning your way as a great trade, but not something I would spit the dummy over. IMO, it should be Gibbs and our third pick for Lyons and 13.

Not a 'done deal' at all - just apparently where the discussions are at for the moment. Take with as much salt as required for taste.
Would be pretty happy with that outcome.
 
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Poster on our board being told from someone within our club that the discussion at the moment is Gibbs and #24 for Lyons and #13. I personally think it's probably leaning your way as a great trade, but not something I would spit the dummy over. IMO, it should be Gibbs and our third pick for Lyons and 13.

Not a 'done deal' at all - just apparently where the discussions are at for the moment. Take with as much salt as required for taste.
I'm in. Let me know where to sign.
 
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