2016 Leadership group - Sauce and the Pizza boy back

[NikkiNoo]

Well Bicks was wrong on 5AA and we got it wrong on the podcast (although I thought the guys were stupid to even think that VB would get demoted!)

New 7 man leadership group - http://www.afc.com.au/adelaidecrows/news/2016-02-17/duo-elevated-to-leadership-group

 

[mattymac]

No Matty jaensch?

 

[displacedaussie]

No Matty jaensch?

When it came to votes needed, he surprisingly came in just under the limit.

 

[Infra Ted]

*Sigh*

VB will play majority of the year. Take it to the bank.

 

[maxlilly]

Good to see Sauce back in there.
I thought it was strange him being dropped from the leadership group last year.
No surprises there with the leadership group. All those guys deserve to be there.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

I am surprised that Eddie isn't in there. With 5 aboriginal guys in the squad and the different cultural pressures that can be placed on these guys it would make sense to have betts in there.

 

[fabs33]

*Sigh*

VB will play majority of the year. Take it to the bank.

Makes sense that our SANFL captain would be in the leadership group.


Okay, okay, no more VB talk, I promise.

 

[George 13]

I am surprised that Eddie isn't in there. With 5 aboriginal guys in the squad and the different cultural pressures that can be placed on these guys it would make sense to have betts in there.

Yep if it was me I would swap VB and put Eddie in.

 

[Footypie32]

What happened to Laird? I thought he was earmarked for a leadership role?

 

[1970crow]

*Sigh*

VB will play majority of the year. Take it to the bank.

I think his form will determine that. No doubt he'll get first crack and he'll benefit from greater patience than any other player, but we lost only 1 player from our last 22 and brought in 4 likely candidates.

Not sure how many in other clubs leadership groups, but 7 seems a lot, 1/3rd of the 22.

 

[hey shorty]

Makes sense that our SANFL captain would be in the leadership group.


Okay, okay, no more VB talk, I promise.

This is my thought.

 

[TheLeftFist8]

Gold Ticket still in force

 

[DD#23]

I wouldn't worry about VB too much everyone, he's only in there to represent the Training Track Leadership group

 

[Slippery Pete]

I am surprised that Eddie isn't in there. With 5 aboriginal guys in the squad and the different cultural pressures that can be placed on these guys it would make sense to have betts in there.

Yeah, never mind what sort of leader a bloke is.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Gold Ticket still in force

Nearly half of the starting 18 are in the leadership group.

Why don't we just put every player in the leadership group. We're so close.

 

[40porpoise]

Well done to Dougie, very underrated on here by some. Really important to our club

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

I am surprised that Eddie isn't in there. With 5 aboriginal guys in the squad and the different cultural pressures that can be placed on these guys it would make sense to have betts in there.

Eddie is a leader regardless

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Nearly half of the starting 18 are in the leadership group.

Why don't we just put every player in the leadership group. We're so close.

Agree I would prefer a maximum of 5 members

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

C
VC
DVC

Top of my underrated list.

 

[King Elvis]

My thoughts on VB as a footballer are well known, but I'm comfortable with him being in the group - he's clearly got fantastic leadership skills, regardless of whether he's in the side of not.

 

[hey shorty]

My thoughts on VB as a footballer are well known, but I'm comfortable with him being in the group - he's clearly got fantastic leadership skills, regardless of whether he's in the side of not.

And as I said in the PS thread, it makes sense to have the SANFL skip in the group. He may or may not be that guy but in the absence of an obvious candidate why not him.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I think VB in the leadership group is the worst thing we can do because it creates an impression that match performance is not the most important thing.

The only reason you train, lift weights, go running, eat well, have game plans, run meetings... is so that you can perform on match day.

If you do the other stuff brilliantly but struggle on match day then clearly what we're doing at training has no bearing on the game itself. It's a waste of time, not exposing people enough, not challenging their game skills.

It also means that there are too many ways a footballer can be successful at the AFC without playing well. Setting PB's on the track, smashing the weights, getting involved in charity stuff and mentoring programs, leadership groups... I bet there are whiteboards up everywhere recognising the standout achievers.

The thing is that none of it matters. All that matters is the two hours on a weekend, and the two hours vs the best teams counts more again.

What we value isn't valuable.

 

[MRB37]

I think VB in the leadership group is the worst thing we can do because it creates an impression that match performance is not the most important thing.

The only reason you train, lift weights, go running, eat well, have game plans, run meetings... is so that you can perform on match day.

If you do the other stuff brilliantly but struggle on match day then clearly what we're doing at training has no bearing on the game itself. It's a waste of time, not exposing people enough, not challenging their game skills.

It also means that there are too many ways a footballer can be successful at the AFC without playing well. Setting PB's on the track, smashing the weights, getting involved in charity stuff and mentoring programs, leadership groups... I bet there are whiteboards up everywhere recognising the standout achievers.

The thing is that none of it matters. All that matters is the two hours on a weekend, and the two hours vs the best teams counts more again.

What we value isn't valuable.

Well the players must think differently then.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Well the players must think differently then.

Clearly.

Which both highlights and perpetuates the problem.

 

[1970crow]

Well the players must think differently then.

Stockholme syndrome. They don't know any other way.