Analysis 2016 List Management Discussion - Part 2

[Soapy V]

I am thinking laterally given we used Thomas there this year. He's still a smart and hard running footballer, no matter what you think of his kicking under pressure.

With some decent runners to support him and the core midfield, he won't play out the second half of the year like he did this year. Even Kerridge and Ed dropped away pretty sharply. Now there's Smedts, Pickett and Palmer to support, along with better decision making out of defence in Marchbank.

Another year learning the systems too. Thomas is the right guy for the job.

couldn't disagree more. cant kick cant run and another year on he will be worse. also not the future and we need to move forward

 

[The Facepainter]

couldn't disagree more. cant kick cant run and another year on he will be worse. also not the future and we need to move forward

Sounds like a 52 year old Facepainter Soap

 

[KohPhi]

Caleb Marchbank - FB
Jacob Weitering -CHB
Levi Casboult - CHF

Let's draft a Moses and an Isaiah and we will have a spine of Biblical proportions...

 

[ShanDog]

Caleb Marchbank - FB
Jacob Weitering -CHB
Levi Casboult - CHF

Let's draft a Moses and an Isaiah and we will have a spine of Biblical proportions...

Blessed be thy Blues...

 

[Teddy chester]

Please explain why you gave the hawks a future 2nd rd pick for chips? I'm lost as to why

 

[Heres Waite]

Caleb Marchbank - FB
Jacob Weitering -CHB
Levi Casboult - CHF

Let's draft a Moses and an Isaiah and we will have a spine of Biblical proportions...

Mahershalalhashbaz handballs it to Abelbethmaachah ... he has a shot from outside 50 ...

... it really rolls of the tounge.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Please explain why you gave the hawks a future 2nd rd pick for chips? I'm lost as to why

It helped the Hawks land JOM. SOS wanted the picks back we used for Pickett and Palmer, feels the draft runs deep so its been said today. We scratched their back this year and did them a massive favour in landing JOM. Expect that to be returned in kind next year from them when we are working something.

 

[Soapy V]

Please explain why you gave the hawks a future 2nd rd pick for chips? I'm lost as to why

because our legendary football manager andy mckay said its an advantage to have your picks spread out and in each round.

 

[Jimmae]

Please explain why you gave the hawks a future 2nd rd pick for chips? I'm lost as to why

Worked out to be equivalent to #41 on points in the picks we got back, but more importantly (apparently) it gave us an extra pick in the 4th round.

Given GWS are likely top 2 next year (it was their future pick, not ours), that puts it in the likely range of #34-#38. Discounting for the fact that it's a future pick, and the gap really isn't far off (if at all, see other future pick trades).

You only get equivalent points or overs if one club is desperate to get out of this draft, and we were apparently keen to get more involved.

 

[Zlatan]

Our best team on paper looks like this for me (players ages will be as of round 1 next year);

Simpson(33)-------Marchbank(20)-------Plowman(22)
Byrne(22)----------Weitering(19)-------Docherty(23)
Kerridge(24)--------Cripps(22)---------Gibbs(28)
Pickett(20)----------Rowe(29)---------C.Curnow(20)
Silvagni(19)---------McKay(19)--------Sumner(23)
Phillips(25)----------Murphy(29)-------E.Curnow(27)

Bench: Cuningham(20) Wright(27) Boekhorst(23) Palmer(28)

18 - 22 y.o: 10
23 - 26 y.o: 5
27 - 30 y.o: 6
31+: 1

Picks 5, 25, 48, 63, 66, 70

Hopefully pick #5 (and possibly #25) are ready to go midfielders like Brodie who should feel comfortable being placed in an experienced midfield.

 

[El Topo]

Please explain why you gave the hawks a future 2nd rd pick for chips? I'm lost as to why

We'd traded our third rounders in the GWS deal, we had pick 25 and then something in the 60s. Hawks let us back into that part of the draft.

 

[Soapy V]

Our best team on paper looks like this for me (players ages will be as of round 1 next year);

Simpson(33)-------Marchbank(20)-------Plowman(22)
Byrne(22)----------Weitering(19)-------Docherty(23)
Kerridge(24)--------Cripps(22)---------Gibbs(28)
Pickett(20)----------Rowe(29)---------C.Curnow(20)
Silvagni(19)---------McKay(19)--------Sumner(23)
Phillips(25)----------Murphy(29)-------E.Curnow(27)

Bench: Cuningham(20) Wright(27) Boekhorst(23) Palmer(28)

18 - 22 y.o: 10
23 - 26 y.o: 5
27 - 30 y.o: 6
31+: 1

Picks 5, 25, 48, 63, 66, 70

Hopefully pick #5 (and possibly #25) are ready to go midfielders like Brodie who should feel comfortable being placed in an experienced midfield.

looks okay. will make a big difference if we really nail our picks and jaksch g-mac gallucci stand up

 

[smashbox gill]

i think we should have a look at barlow for some midfield depth.

 

[Zlatan]

looks okay. will make a big difference if we really nail our picks and jaksch g-mac gallucci stand up

Yep. If Jaksch pulls the finger out, he's another 3rd tall in that forward line. If G-Mac comes on, another key defender.

I'd normally be hesitant to throw 18 year old mids into the deep end but if picks #5 and #25 have the ability to make an impact from the beginning, they've got a very experienced midfield to back them up.

 

[Jimmae]

So we have a maximum of 40 for the senior list; Byrne upgraded; Armfield signed; 6 picks; 2 open lists spots; 6 uncontracted players.

We need to delist 4 just to make our picks at the draft, 5 if we want to sign a DFA. So that's pretty much everyone but Buckley gone, which I suppose is why we're looking at a re-rookie for Sheehan and DVR. If we're successful with that, that's our entire rookie compliment.

Our entire list could just about be finalised after the ND.

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

Please explain why you gave the hawks a future 2nd rd pick for chips? I'm lost as to why

Nfi

 

[DangerousD]

5 guys from the Giants?

A poster mentioned something along the lines that the Giants still needed to make some delisting. They have to use all picks at the draft.
I haven't looked in to if this is 100%

 

[Soapy V]

Yep. If Jaksch pulls the finger out, he's another 3rd tall in that forward line. If G-Mac comes on, another key defender.

I'd normally be hesitant to throw 18 year old mids into the deep end but if picks #5 and #25 have the ability to make an impact from the beginning, they've got a very experienced midfield to back them up.

these days the kids are so well prepared. midfielders especially if given an injury free pre season can step in and play 15 plus games and we need mids

 

[Love the Drake]

Towers is the pick of the bunch. On baller. Good size (189cm). Right age.

Wouldn't mind Barlow in to help out over the next 2-3 years. I know he's 28 but is still a good AFL footballer.

 

[DangerousD]

I think De Boer, Pearce and Mzungu are DFA's. I'm not sure on the status of Richards and Barlow though. Either of those two would be good in the PSD. Essendon would snap up Richards pretty quickly I reckon.

Essendon just traded Stewart so not sure Richards suits

 

[Arr0w]

i think we should have a look at barlow for some midfield depth.

No

 

[DangerousD]

Im surprised to learn De Boer is only 26...for memory he won the WAFL best player award from 14 games or something this year...would be handy for depth.
Maybe Barlow
Not sure about Richards...seems like another Jaksch type got some talent but no size on him and not aggressive/competitive.
Can we get Lennon or is he contracted?

Difference is Richards was able to get games at a side that was challenging

 

[DangerousD]

Who plays in the back line instead, and who alternates with Simpson to drop into defence? Kerridge?


He was not a PSD pick, he was a DFA, and has been pointed out the PSD is a last chance saloon for players who wish to move clubs when their existing clubs won't delist them prior to this (three DFA periods + national draft).

Just because I feel Daisy should be replaced with Kerridge, palmer or someone else doesn't mean I want them to play his position.

Most of the guys I mentioned should be DFA, are you keen on any?

 

[Jimmae]

Just because I feel Daisy should be replaced with Kerridge, palmer or someone else doesn't mean I want them to play his position.

Most of the guys I mentioned should be DFA, are you keen on any?

Who should drop into our defence then?

Barlow as a DFA, and it's only 4 GWS players to be delisted as it turns out.

 

[Mezzoculo]

Please explain why you gave the hawks a future 2nd rd pick for chips? I'm lost as to why

Coz those poor battlers needed a leg up. Bless their souls.