Fair enough. Not sure what draws you to that conclusion though.
Yeah he said pick#4, Everitt and Touhy to get Prestia, Mitchell and Marchbank. That is giving up pick#4! And no, I don't "think" anything about Mitchell's game I've watched him play many, many times. When he has the other guys around him then the attention gets focused on them as well. We have a midfield that is nowhere near Sydney's.
2017 Draft is said to have some real elite talent in the top 10. Giving up that first rounder would be foolish.
But, I have suggested this a few times now and you've responded to me on those occasions as well. Look, if you don't think trading Gibbs is a good idea then fine, you're entitled to your opinion but don't go around saying shit like I know nothing about football. How many times do people have to be told on here not to play the man? It's clear that any mention of trading Gibbs offends you for some reason, you his mate or something? The guy has shown little leadership since Murphy's been out and doesn't go hard at the ball. Exactly what we don't need. In a side like GWS he will thrive. He will have the freedom to play his outside game and get away with it. Shuey bumped him off tackles easily, Shiel bumped him off the ball easily. Gibbs is like the cream on top but he's not going to show the youngsters the way like you think he is.
Well that's great.
So now you change your tune. GC are not above us on the ladder. End of story. Marchbank was best 22? Or was he getting a run to see his worth?
Why package our first and second when we can package our second and two third rounders? Like I said pick#24 + #40 + #49 > Pick#9 in terms of points...
Of course we need to trust SOS, but look at what he did last year. Smart trading that got us a plethora of early draft picks and players with potential. That's what I think we should do again this year. I've already mentioned it a multitude of times!
Curnow well and truly proven to be elite? Jumping the gun a bit early there. I like the guy and am very excited about his potential but we need to see him in action a bit more to make that call.
Neither do I. Again, I've already mentioned this in previous posts.
But you include Brodie even though you don't think we'll get him? Doesn't make sense. Rainbow is struggling in the two's very hard to see him excelling at AFL level.
Here's what I proposed earlier:
We should try and get a second rounder for Casboult. Couple that second rounder with ours and throw in Everitt as steak knives to get that pick from them. Two picks from #23-#27 should have the points of pick#8-#9 covered if not, give up the Dogs third rounder as well.
That will leaves us with Pick #4-#5 + #8-#9 + #40-#41.
Then for the GWS4, we give up a package of players and future second rounder. I'd say throw in Touhy + Rowe and 2017 2nd rounder. Touhy and Rowe should be worth 2 second rounders. Coupled with next year's second rounder it's essentially 3 2nd round dps for Marchbank and Tomlinson. Too many other clubs chasing Steele by the sound of things and it's not worth giving up any extra. I'm already going cold on Tomlinson and Marchbank is already struggling to get on the park. If GWS want to ask for more, then good luck to them I'd say.
Then, next year we will have our top 10 pick from where we finish and we can go all out for another by offering up the 2018 first rounder and another player worthy of a second round pick.
4 top ten picks over the next couple of drafts is what we should be aiming for. Three years of multiple top 10 picks and smart trading will get us where we want to be.
IF that all falls into place, then by 2018 we'll look something like this:
B: Docherty Marchbank Byrne
HB: Gibbs Weitering Plowman
C: Tomlinson Cripps 2016#2
HF: Murphy C.Curnow Boekhorst
F: Silvagni McKay 2017#2
FOL: Kreuzer 2016#1 E.Curnow
I/C: 2017#1, Cuningham, 2016#3, Sumner
With 2016#1 => Pick#4-#5
2016#2 => Pick#8-#9
2017#1 => Pick#6-#7
2017#2 => Pick#9-#10
So you see, I'm not fully against trading in players. Just do NOT want to give up our first rounders. Instead we need to work out how to bring in more! Notice how I kept Gibbs in? Because I know it's highly unlikely that we'll ever trade him.