Analysis 2016 List Management Discussion

[Soapy V]

Let's be honest here.

Our first round pick next year will be 1-6.

really depends on the this trade/draft period. add marchbank pickett whe lyons hrovat mcstay to the developing weitering curnow silvagni pick 5 & tuohy pick and a fit murphy and we could jump up?

 

[zeeCFC]

really depends on the this trade/draft period. add marchbank pickett whe lyons hrovat mcstay to the developing weitering curnow silvagni pick 5 & tuohy pick and a fit murphy and we could jump up?

McStay? Is this from reglower? If so, guarantee it won't happen

 

[Funk]

Would love it to be that easy but GWS won't accept that. Pretty well everyone who is an astute football talent watcher suggests he is worth a first rounder. We want to maintain our solid relationship with GWS for future dealings/raids so the deal that gets done will be fair. As unpopular as this post will be, I do believe that either our pick 5 will be involved for a later first round pick coming back or we use what we get for Tuohy to satisfy GWS. This years or next years second doesn't get it done alone. Marchbank is rated extremely highly by GWS and was best 22 prior to the injury. They also rate him far higher than they did Plowman so last years trade is not a good comparison. The other players mentioned such as Pickett, Steele, Stewart also hold more value than Phillips, Sumner, and Lamb.

Pickett doesn't - he is a cripple

 

[ParapMarkets]

I don't understand how Pickett is being rated so poorly on this board. People are throwing his name up like GWS should be happy for us to take him, sure he comes with some risk but the kid is awesome.

People are envisioning him as Clem the sequel, but that is just racial profiling and far from the case. He is a class act who worked his arse off in his draft year to improve his game. Foot injury is a worry no doubt, but most clubs rated him top 10 pick for a reason (unlike Clem whom nobody other than us was interested in). If we can get him at a bargain rate it would be awesome.

 

[Prem17]

If our back line is sorted to the point that Tuohy is considered expendable, why bother with Harvey for a year or two when we could just move Tuohy forward?
Would have great defensive pressure in forward 50, knows how to find the goals and could push up the ground a bit.

I would love to see Tuohy play as a wing/HFF

 

[AndyLucimitis]

Marchbank is taller than Scott Thompson, Gibson, Stephen May, Fevola...height isn't important, it's girth...err, smarts!

...as the old saying goes, some women like it that thick


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[SkyhorseTamer]

I don't understand how Pickett is being rated so poorly on this board. People are throwing his name up like GWS should be happy for us to take him, sure he comes with some risk but the kid is awesome.

People are envisioning him as Clem the sequel, but that is just racial profiling and far from the case. He is a class act who worked his arse off in his draft year to improve his game. Foot injury is a worry no doubt, but most clubs rated him top 10 pick for a reason (unlike Clem whom nobody other than us was interested in). If we can get him at a bargain rate it would be awesome.

Sorry, gonna have to call you up on that. You can't say people are racial profiling when theres no mention of race at all. Thats not right. You're implying anyone who doesn't rate Pickett is a racist.

 

[RattAttack]

2017 Draft may be strong but it's more KPP than mids. We might be sorted for KPP by then.

Maybe consider this:

2016-
Out/ 2017 1st rounder, pick 23
In/ pick 7, Marchbank, Pickett

Draft- pick 5 (Brodie), pick 7 (Venables)

2017-
Out/ 2018 1st rounder
In/ someone's 2017 1st rounder

Draft- best available

2018-
No 1st round pick - use a couple of 2nd rounders for SOS3.

 

[HARKER]

Every chance we'll have a very good core of young players by the end of this year.

Cripps, Docherty, Curnow, McKay, Silvagni, Weitering, Marchbank, Byrne, Plowman: You can be confident about being best 22 players.
Cuningham, Sumner, Boekhorst look likely and then we can cross our fingers on Jaksch, JGM and Gowers.

Not a terrible base at all and nail another draft and trade period and we could have something happening......who knows?

 

[AB_Blue]

Follow the dogs lead; Fit, young, quick, hard at it footballers.......

Good structured coaching and development doesn't hurt either.

I think we are finally on the right track on that front.

Need to nail these next 2 drafts

 

[Kramer1]

I don't understand how Pickett is being rated so poorly on this board. People are throwing his name up like GWS should be happy for us to take him, sure he comes with some risk but the kid is awesome.

People are envisioning him as Clem the sequel, but that is just racial profiling and far from the case. He is a class act who worked his arse off in his draft year to improve his game. Foot injury is a worry no doubt, but most clubs rated him top 10 pick for a reason (unlike Clem whom nobody other than us was interested in). If we can get him at a bargain rate it would be awesome.

Could you possibly draw a longer bow?

 

[Smalls0304]

Liam Jones for the pick they got Caleb Daniel with will haunt me for the next 15 years

 

[Smalls0304]

2017 Draft may be strong but it's more KPP than mids. We might be sorted for KPP by then.

Maybe consider this:

2016-
Out/ 2017 1st rounder, pick 23
In/ pick 7, Marchbank, Pickett

Draft- pick 5 (Brodie), pick 7 (Venables)

2017-
Out/ 2018 1st rounder
In/ someone's 2017 1st rounder

Draft- best available

2018-
No 1st round pick - use a couple of 2nd rounders for SOS3.

Way too risky to trade next years first. All the teams around us will significantly improve. GC with less injuries, Ess with their players back, Freo not tanking. It could be as low as 1-3 IMO

 

[HARKER]

Liam Jones for the pick they got Caleb Daniel with will haunt me for the next 15 years

Would have we taken Daniel at #46?

Answer: NO..........so, nothing to be haunted about........but if you like to be haunted.........

 

[Navara79]

Liam Jones for the pick they got Caleb Daniel with will haunt me for the next 15 years

Just because we traded that pick for Jones doesn't mean we would have picked Daniel with it

 

[Blue and Silver]

I would have taken Caleb in the top 30. But that's just me

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[Smalls0304]

Would have we taken Daniel at #46?

Answer: NO..........so, nothing to be haunted about........but if you like to be haunted.........

Geez "NO" is pretty emphatic, is that you shane rogers?

 

[agro]

Liam Jones for the pick they got Caleb Daniel with will haunt me for the next 15 years

Almost as haunting as the Geelong picking Paul Chapman, with the pick we gave them for Michael Mansfield.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Sorry, gonna have to call you up on that. You can't say people are racial profiling when theres no mention of race at all. Thats not right. You're implying anyone who doesn't rate Pickett is a racist.

There is seriously no similarities between the two but thier race and that is why they are getting compared to each other.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Could you possibly draw a longer bow?

How else are they similar?

 

[TheHunterCripps]

Liam Jones for the pick they got Caleb Daniel with will haunt me for the next 15 years

Was always going to be difficult to top the Michael Mansfield for the pick they got Paul Chapman... might this will go close.

 

[Kramer1]

How else are they similar?

Not sure what you mean.

 

[ParapMarkets]

Sorry, gonna have to call you up on that. You can't say people are racial profiling when theres no mention of race at all. Thats not right. You're implying anyone who doesn't rate Pickett is a racist.

I shouldn't have posted that. Yes I do think people are profiling him and it pisses me off to hear people call him fat or lazy or a cripple, but still it was a bad post from me.

 

[Pafloyul]

Would have we taken Daniel at #46?

Answer: NO..........so, nothing to be haunted about........but if you like to be haunted.........

Just because we traded that pick for Jones doesn't mean we would have picked Daniel with it

That's no excuse for an error of judgement, it just makes things worse. The more we make those kinds of calls, the greater chance there is for the picks that we trade away to be turned into something special by the clubs that receive those picks. It happens a lot with us. 'We are crap at drafting, anyway' is not good logic.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Not sure what you mean.

Why is Smith being compared to Pickett? I don't understand how they are similar besides race.