Analysis 2016 List Management Discussion

[Red Bull]

So the originally floated rumor was :
Carlton's 1st and 2nd for Marchbank Tomlinson Steele and Stewart ???

We believe Tomlinson is staying so a bit of tweaking might produce :
Marchbank #16 Steele and Stewart ???

I'd prefer Marchbank #16 Steele Pickett ???

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Out of curiousity, why? I've seen a number of posters discuss similar scenarios which leave us no better off than just keeping our original picks.
Unless we're getting back multiple picks or players, to me it doesn't make a whole heap of sense.

I imagine we could work enough out of a future first trade to make it a benefit for us. 2017 1st to GC for #8 and #22 would be my personal preference. Get the equivalent first round and get the pick #22 for free.

 

[F_therest]

Much rather Jong than either of those 2.... Can't believe he isn't being mentioned more

Probably because Jong has been heavily linked to Collingwood and gold coast..plus there has been no rumours at all about us being into him.

Whereas publicly haven't heard about Hrovat, honeychurch and Stevens preference, ans there has been a rumour about us and Hrovat.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Out of curiousity, why? I've seen a number of posters discuss similar scenarios which leave us no better off than just keeping our original picks.
Unless we're getting back multiple picks or players, to me it doesn't make a whole heap of sense.

Our biggest weakness is our midfield. This year is a midfielder's draft.

Adding Brodie and Taranto would be huge.

 

[1981]

Jiikdong

 

[Seldom Seen Kid]

Any word yet on whether Sheehan is likely to get another year with you guys? Waiting to see how trade week, and specifically Tuohy's future plays out? From a purely selfish perspective I hope Tuohy stays, or more specifically doesn't end up at North. It'd mean I'd have to start watching North regularly

 

[F_therest]

Any word yet on whether Sheehan is likely to get another year with you guys? Waiting to see how trade week, and specifically Tuohy's future plays out? From a purely selfish perspective I hope Tuohy stays, or more specifically doesn't end up at North. It'd mean I'd have to start watching North regularly

Why? Are you Irish

 

[Seldom Seen Kid]

Why? Are you Irish

Indeed I am.

 

[F_therest]

Indeed I am.

No one has posted anything official with Sheehan but I expect him to be cut unfortunately.

Can't get a run due to injuries...he's on the rookie list and he's not young, he's 26.

 

[Smegger]

Indeed I am.

Change to the Blues mate, we've got a few of your lads.

 

[BlueJet]

What it may do, is for the group to consolidate and get to know each other on and off the ground.

2015 had a huge intake as will this year and if we can add some more key talent next year along with identifying FA's, then at least in theory we have a launching pad to move from.

Last year we took on 15 new faces. This year will be 13 and next year, as much as a dozen again.
I don't mind then if we did all the hard work in '15, '16 & '17, bring aboard some FA's in '17 & '18 along with Ben Silvagni.

That's why I see 2018 as being the leap year where the concentration happened in the first three and then allowed the list to breathe and build.
That just feels like the strategy to me as then after 66 games it will well and truly be SOS's and Bolton's team. No escaping that.

I can see the benefit of that but imo that isn't reason enough to put all of our eggs in the 2016 draft basket, it's more an additional perk if a suitable trade can be found.

 

[Faz 2000]

Only player that has been delisted that I would be slightly interested in is Grimes.
Knows how to find the pill and has leadership qualities (not sure if they are good or bad qualities though)...

Good, I think. I'd rather him than convince ourselves getting thrown-ins on a major deal are "depth". At least Grimes builds the Leadership Density, and costs nothing. Could do worse, if expectations are modest.

 

[BlueJet]

I imagine we could work enough out of a future first trade to make it a benefit for us. 2017 1st to GC for #8 and #22 would be my personal preference. Get the equivalent first round and get the pick #22 for free.

That'd be great, gaining additional picks at our stage of a rebuild just makes sense.
trading 2017 pick 6 for 2016 pick 6 straight up is kinda meh...

 

[BlueJet]

Our biggest weakness is our midfield. This year is a midfielder's draft.

Adding Brodie and Taranto would be huge.

In all seriousness is it any different to adding a similar talent next year?
Whether it's 2x 2016 first rounders or they're across two years the net benefit is the same.

 

[Faz 2000]

Yeh I don't like this idea of moving on a future pick at all. It'll still be a good pick next year.

Save that for when we're topping up for a tilt at a flag.

Continued in Part Two:

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2016-list-management-discussion-part-2.1148213/​

 

[LordLucifer]

Heavy cutting with the Silvagni army knife just what is required

If the Gibbs trade had of gone through (ie. a 3 for 1 deal) then there would have been another couple of heads roll.

 

[HBF]

Sad if Dylan goes tbh.

Agree JaB.
Thought his second half of the year was pretty good. Would hold onto him ahead of Graham.

 

[Dramoth]

Harsh on Wood! He played a lone hand in the ruck while Krooz was down, ripped Selwood's head off and ended Warnock's career. Not sure what more you could ask of him.

Warnock ended his own career I think... wanted a pay rise while not offering much in return.

And I should have phrased the Wood comment slightly different. He didn't work hard enough with the chances he got. And he even admits it.

 

[Deep Blue]

Agree JaB.
Thought his second half of the year was pretty good. Would hold onto him ahead of Graham.

Yeah, he's ahead of Graham for me as well. Would just like to see him string a dozen consistent games together - his good stuff is right up there!

 

[Omega Blue]

He has the perfect opportunity with Byrne potentially out for the year