2016 Non-Crows AFL Discussion - Cont. in Part 2 (link in OP)

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They were 7th place and the worst side in the top 8, it's not like they were a top 4 side with a chance to do anything in September. Carlton probably did more than Essendon would have done.

Being saved the embarrassment of losing an elimination final to Collingwood isn't much of a penalty.
Didnt Carlton beat Richmond ? Which makes it insanely funny Richmond got beaten by the 9th placed side
 

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They were 7th place and the worst side in the top 8, it's not like they were a top 4 side with a chance to do anything in September. Carlton probably did more than Essendon would have done.

Being saved the embarrassment of losing an elimination final to Collingwood isn't much of a penalty.
All while the investigations were occurring. Their seasons from 2013 to now have been a complete waste. It's done untold damage to the club and its playing group. One #1 draft pick isn't going to improve that much. They won't be playing finals for at least 5 more years.
 

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It's all the same thing. They can't prove the systematic doping because of their poor governance issues.
It's not the same thing at all. They've been pinged for keeping lousy paperwork, or more likely, destroying the paperwork because it contained incriminating evidence. They have not been pinged for doping their players.

Of course they can prove that a systematic doping campaign was conducted. 34 of their players have been found guilty of doping and banned for 2 years (backdated so they only serve 12 months).
 

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Mcdonalds was started as a family run restaurant in California, that doesn't make any of the modern franchises family restaurants.
McDonalds have only been at San Bernardino since 1940. Port Adelaide has been playing at Alberton and Adelaide Oval since 1880.

A Schnitty at Alberton is way better than a McDonalds burger anyway.
 

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All while the investigations were occurring. Their seasons from 2013 to now have been a complete waste. It's done untold damage to the club and its playing group. One #1 draft pick isn't going to improve that much. They won't be playing finals for at least 5 more years.
Essendon need to take a fair bit of responsibility for the delays. The investigation would not have taken anywhere near as long if they hadn't destroyed all of the evidence, making it much harder for ASADA to find out what they had done. Then there were the needless court battles as well...
 

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McDonalds have only been at San Bernardino since 1940. Port Adelaide has been playing at Alberton and Adelaide Oval since 1880.

A Schnitty at Alberton is way better than a McDonalds burger anyway.

The magpies have, how many games for points have the Power played at Alberton?

The McDonalds in Port Adelaide isn't the same as the McDonalds from San Bernardino, they are just a franchise created in their name.
 

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Slightly OT but Weitering belted Schache on the weekend, I do wonder if Josh will soon tire of Brisbane life.
It's way easier to be a young defender than a young forward.

http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2016-06-09/millions-tune-into-power-games-in-china

Propaganda is in full swing.

The margin for error in Australian ratings can be as high as 10%. With Chinas population, 4million viewers would be well below the margin for error in their ratings. So 4million viewers (+/- 6million viewers).
I choose to believe that the Power had negative 2 million viewers.

Perhaps 2 million Chinese nationals turned on the TV, said WTF and turned it off, and then threw their televisions away ;)
 

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Essendon need to take a fair bit of responsibility for the delays. The investigation would not have taken anywhere near as long if they hadn't destroyed all of the evidence, making it much harder for ASADA to find out what they had done. Then there were the needless court battles as well...
Oh absolutely agree with this. They could be playing finals this year if they'd dealt with this with a bit more humility, but that's the wonders of hindsight.

I just think for the good of the comp, Essendon need to make their way back to par. They are a long way from that and a #1 pick is going to help, but the way some are going on about it, it is as if the #1 pick is a huge leg up which is unfair on the comp. it really isn't. No need to kick them while they are down.

They have a new Pres, new CEO, new coach, mostly new players. It's not the same club. Let em get back to being competitive. For one, they currently ruin one good game per weekend.
 

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No no no. When it is about the optics, they are all over it. Racism? Got it covered. Women? That too. Mental Health? Tick. Integrity? Got a whole department! It's things like the handling of the Essendon saga, rule changes, fixtures that they just constantly **** up.
So its only core business that they are shit at. awesome.
 

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Every person coaching should have or be working under the supervision of someone with coaching accreditation. This is in place for the vast majority of sports as far as I am aware. Each of those bodies also provide a lot of resources and links to other places so that you can further your knowledge to the betterment of your athlete, which includes things other than just how to coach that particular sport.

Also in order to maintain your accreditation, each coach has to undertake a number of courses worth points each year. A coach has to do a attain a certain number of points from attending workshops, otherwise you are not allowed to re-accredit the next year.
Having people involved in coaching undergo training in regards to mental health, and having those people accept that depression is a clinical diagnosis rather than a player just being 'weak as piss' is entirely another matter.
 

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I just wanted to know if the holder of British passport gets to vote for the EU referendum.
Haha I thought it was tongue in cheek reference the British Hotel . :)
I do not know the answer but It would most likely be centered around your residency and electoral role status. Not sure if a passport equates to valid voting rights. So sorry you'll have to check.
 

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700k is what Richmond and North we're offering him to leave, when he re-signed late last year it was reported he took considerable unders. But why let facts get in the way of a good story.
You have any proof he took unders? Never heard or read anything about that. What I did hear is other clubs supposedly offering him 700k a year and Port cropping their dacks he might leave and quickly and crazily matching the offer. If he took unders I'm happy to be shown the proof and admit I'm wrong.
 

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No no no. When it is about the optics, they are all over it. Racism? Got it covered. Women? That too. Mental Health? Tick. Integrity? Got a whole department! It's things like the handling of the Essendon saga, rule changes, fixtures that they just constantly **** up.
I'm in the military and what you find is that they have to have things in order on paper so it looks good, but in reality it's still a boys club and the old rules about one rule for him and one rule for you. The AFL and the military have a lot in common.
 
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