2016 Non-Crows AFL Discussion - Cont. in Part 2 (link in OP)

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What trade value do they have?

  • Ebert, Carlile, Lobbe, Trengove, Boak, Hoff, Robbie Gray, Hartlett - All on inflated contracts in terms of $ and length. No other clubs will touch these guys.
  • White, Schulz, Monfries - Old and body broken
  • Ryder, Dixon, Polec - Aint going anywhere are the "Destination Club" brigade.
  • Hombsch, Wines, Wingard - Three guys every club would take, but untouchables. The best three players at the club right now.
  • Mitchell, Coulqhoun, Butcher, Stewart, O'Shea. Not AFL standard players. Should be delisted.
  • Guys like Aamon, Toumpas, Ah Chee, Jonas, Neade no other club would want.
  • Unkonwns, Snelling, Palmer, Austin, Dougal, Bonner etc.


The three players that are the most enticing for other clubs are probably Impey Young and Darcy Jones. And they are 2nd/3rd rounders at best.



When you break up their list in terms of trade value they are screwed in terms of churning players to imporve their list.
IMO they are going to have to trade 2 of HH, Boak, Ebert or Grey and pay a decent chunk of their salary to the next club for however long.

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IMO they are going to have to trade 2 of HH, Boak, Ebert or Grey and pay a decent chunk of their salary to the next club for however long.

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They are already stretched with regards to Cap Space. Having to go into this season one player down to accommodate Dixon.

Can't see how they can trade in a decent player, and pay some of these guys salary to play at another club.


The AFL are yet to rule on whether they can use Ryder and Monfries cap space from this year. You just know that they have already assumed this will be the case and probably spent it already. Probably in re-signing Ollie Wines.
 

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Port are a rabble atm. Tredrea and Kane questioning the recruiting and list management, Cassisi blaming it on there so called " best 22 outs" and the supporters blaming in on the coaching staff LOL
Some Porr flog on Twitter called the Crows mediocre with no history and said we are the wandering Jew with no home. Classy supporters they've got. Then blocks me like the weak pissant that his team is.
 

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They are already stretched with regards to Cap Space. Having to go into this season one player down to accommodate Dixon.

Can't see how they can trade in a decent player, and pay some of these guys salary to play at another club.


The AFL are yet to rule on whether they can use Ryder and Monfries cap space from this year. You just know that they have already assumed this will be the case and probably spent it already. Probably in re-signing Ollie Wines.
Schulz will go. Carlile, Monfries, Lobbe a host of no name spuds. They can free up space if need be. They can't trade for players they need to trade for picks to replenish their kids on base salary. The Magpies look like a Div 6 Ammo outfit.

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Some Porr flog on Twitter called the Crows mediocre with no history and said we are the wandering Jew with no home. Classy supporters they've got. Then blocks me like the weak pissant that his team is.
Blocked me too. What a flog. Just pointed out the flag count and finals campaigns. Purely mathematical.

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Schulz will go. Carlile, Monfries, Lobbe a host of no name spuds. They can free up space if need be. They can't trade for players they need to trade for picks to replenish their kids on base salary. The Magpies look like a Div 6 Ammo outfit.

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Lobbe's trade value is shot now. Bulldogs rumoured to have offered pick 11. That would be a high second rounder at best now. He will be 28 at the start of next season and will play bugger all footy this year at AFL level.


BTW Port also traded out their second round pick next year for Dixon.


There really needs to be a thread on their board about how inept Geoff Parker is.
 

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Lobbe's trade value is shot now. Bulldogs rumoured to have offered pick 11. That would be a high second rounder at best now. He will be 28 at the start of next season and will play bugger all footy this year at AFL level.


BTW Port also traded out their second round pick next year for Dixon.
Lobbe is a delist. He is cap space at best now. The 2nd rounder is why they need picks. They could probably unload Westhoff for a 2nd rounder to Brisbane.

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Lobbe is a delist. He is cap space at best now. The 2nd rounder is why they need picks. They could probably unload Westhoff for a 2nd rounder to Brisbane.

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See this is another difference between our clubs.

First we made the hard decision to sack Sando before more damage was done.

Second, we traded out a favourite son in Vince to bring in Matt Crouch.



They will never drop Westhoff let alone trade him out. You are right, it is a smart move. But a tough decision.


When was the last time Port made a tough decision? Sacking Choco? Primus walked.
 

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Lobbe is a delist. He is cap space at best now. The 2nd rounder is why they need picks. They could probably unload Westhoff for a 2nd rounder to Brisbane.

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Lobbe should perhaps consider Bocce (or even petanque considering the pears French sponsorship.)
 

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Some Porr flog on Twitter called the Crows mediocre with no history and said we are the wandering Jew with no home. Classy supporters they've got. Then blocks me like the weak pissant that his team is.
Blocked me too. What a flog. Just pointed out the flag count and finals campaigns. Purely mathematical.

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He has 119 followers, just FYI.

I wonder if I should point that out to him?
 

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Lobbe is a delist. He is cap space at best now. The 2nd rounder is why they need picks. They could probably unload Westhoff for a 2nd rounder to Brisbane.

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Westhoff is utter crap. For a big man he's pissweak. Got rag dolled against Bullies last week. I know he's not exactly muscular but Jesus. Would rather use the draft pick than put that spud on a list. Lack of competition for spots keeps him in Ports 22.
 

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Just read Ruccis mid season report on us....what a flog. Even when he gives us a compliment it's in a back handed way. He said good things about Pyke but then says 'there is the question of whether he can sell his club and promote the game!. Lol. Still having hissy fits because the Crows don't give him what he wants.

Also mentions Crows are number 1 in the comp for using the least amount of players because of our small injury list.

****** of the highest form.
What point is he even trying to make? Record membership numbers and the #2 crowds on average, what exactly do we need the coach out there selling and promoting? Or is he just getting pissy because Pyke doesn't fall for Ruccis tactics and won't make grandiose statements that Rucci can keep in his pocket and throw back at the club later?
 

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What point is he even trying to make? Record membership numbers and the #2 crowds on average, what exactly do we need the coach out there selling and promoting? Or is he just getting pissy because Pyke doesn't fall for Ruccis tactics and won't make grandiose statements that Rucci can keep in his pocket and throw back at the club later?
Rooch still thinks that The Advertiser is the lynchpin in terms of club marketing. Our club has not given Rooch a one on one interview with Pyke and the only access he has had are the press conferences.


BTW Sando and Kern are great used car salesmen. But crap coaches.
 

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What point is he even trying to make? Record membership numbers and the #2 crowds on average, what exactly do we need the coach out there selling and promoting? Or is he just getting pissy because Pyke doesn't fall for Ruccis tactics and won't make grandiose statements that Rucci can keep in his pocket and throw back at the club later?
He's pissed because he won't speak to him
 

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What point is he even trying to make? Record membership numbers and the #2 crowds on average, what exactly do we need the coach out there selling and promoting? Or is he just getting pissy because Pyke doesn't fall for Ruccis tactics and won't make grandiose statements that Rucci can keep in his pocket and throw back at the club later?
That's exactly what it is. Has a crack at the Crows for not taking him seriously. Petulant little tosser.
 

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Lobbe's trade value is shot now. Bulldogs rumoured to have offered pick 11.

And one other thing - Port Adelaide will have to accept this week that finals are out of the question for 2016. They can blame whoever and whatever they like, but they're almost definitely not going to make up two games and percentage with nine games to go.

...which means they've got one last thing to play for this year: Round 22, August 20th, Home Showdown v Adelaide, 7pm.

Up to this we've got Norf (H), Melbourne (A), Carlton (A), Collingwood (H), Geelong (A), Essendon (H), Brisbane (H), Fremantle (A).

I count probably 6 or 7 wins in that. With the rest of the draw, I suspect we'll be fighting for top four at that stage, and I reckon they will put everything they've got into getting right for this one match.

Currently it's 21-19 Port's way - and it's almost the last thing they have to pretend they're relevant. Wil be a huge match, and a must-win for us.
 

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Rooch still thinks that The Advertiser is the lynchpin in terms of club marketing. Our club has not given Rooch a one on one interview with Pyke and the only access he has had are the press conferences.


BTW Sando and Kern are great used car salesmen. But crap coaches.
Listen to a press conference with Pyke and then one with Hinkley. What a difference. Don't think I've ever heard a cliche out of Pykes mouth.
 

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And one other thing - Port Adelaide will have to accept this week that finals are out of the question for 2016. They can blame whoever and whatever they like, but they're almost definitely not going to make up two games and percentage with nine games to go.

...which means they've got one last thing to play for this year: Round 22, August 20th, Home Showdown v Adelaide, 7pm.

Up to this we've got Norf (H), Melbourne (A), Carlton (A), Collingwood (H), Geelong (A), Essendon (H), Brisbane (H), Fremantle (A).

I count probably 6 or 7 wins in that. With the rest of the draw, I suspect we'll be fighting for top four at that stage, and I reckon they will put everything they've got into getting right for this one match.

Currently it's 21-19 Port's way - and it's almost the last thing they have to pretend they're relevant. Wil be a huge match, and a must-win for us.
No pressure , it's their grand final. (and we know how well they go in those)
 

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And one other thing - Port Adelaide will have to accept this week that finals are out of the question for 2016. They can blame whoever and whatever they like, but they're almost definitely not going to make up two games and percentage with nine games to go.

...which means they've got one last thing to play for this year: Round 22, August 20th, Home Showdown v Adelaide, 7pm.

Up to this we've got Norf (H), Melbourne (A), Carlton (A), Collingwood (H), Geelong (A), Essendon (H), Brisbane (H), Fremantle (A).

I count probably 6 or 7 wins in that. With the rest of the draw, I suspect we'll be fighting for top four at that stage, and I reckon they will put everything they've got into getting right for this one match.

Currently it's 21-19 Port's way - and it's almost the last thing they have to pretend they're relevant. Wil be a huge match, and a must-win for us.
Didn't realise we're still 2 behind the wankers. Mind you I gave up giving a flying rats toss bag about the Showdown count years ago.
 

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I love the post about Vossy being bitter about 2004 and bringing the club down from within.





Come to think of it, this claim could have some legs. Given Vossy only got the job as his best mate Shaun Hart is their Football Director. Maybe both of these guys have been working together to bring Port down for ruining the Lions fourpeat of 2004.
Not sure if I've posted this before but...

If you're ever feeling a bit down, go read the first few pages of their voss thread.

Then jump to the last couple of pages. It's freaking hilarious.
 
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