2016 Non-Crows AFL Discussion - Cont. in Part 2 (link in OP)

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Mixed feelings.

I can't believe 34 players would have agreed to cheat.

But they need to take some responsibility but ending players careers is pretty harsh.
I'm not sure they agreed to cheat either.

What I think is that they took injections, were told it was okay, believed it because Hirdy said it was all kosher, then they found out it wasn't. They've been back-pedalling ever since, and propped up by the AFL who has done everything possible to get them off with zero penalty.
 

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BREAKING: Tim Watson believes son Jobe should maintain his Brownlow Medal.

Well strike me pink.
In his heart, Jobe will always know that he polled the most votes and he'll always have the photo's to remind him that if he wasn't a drug cheat he might have gone close to winning the medal honestly.

Surprising myself with how much I've turned against these blokes today.
 

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Heard McDevitt speak on MMM and didn't feel the need to listen to any of the other pressers in full, especially after the snippet I heard from Marsh. As Roo said, if anyone wants to hear the facts in a simple and coherent manner without any other ramblings about the poor innocent players, this is the guy to listen to.
Ben is very good. That no doubt was why hird put a target on him and tried to take him down. I feel sorry for him because of the sheer amount of political pressure the AFL and EFC put on him.
 
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Gillon all but confirmed that if the Dons come last they will get the number 1 draft pick.
what a load of horse shit if that happens

Gary made a good point (one that must have occurred to everyone really...) about the Melbourne tanking debacle. If an international body investigated that, no way the Dee's escape with simply a fine.
 

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Interesting words from Lloyd on Monfries. Said he had spoken to him today after he had rocked up to training and then got told to go home, feared he had played his last AFL game.
I agree with the decision but just putting myself in Angus' shoes for a moment, that would have been BRUTAL to experience. Feel for him (and Mark McVeigh at GWS training) experiencing that.
 

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Just what i read in one of the press releases regarding Essendons salary cap this year ....IIRC i am sure AFL said they'd pickup the differential ? .....could be wrong though
AFL will make an allowance in the cap (for the payments to the top up players). Essendon will be paying for both the banned players and the top up ones.
 
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I'm not sure they agreed to cheat either.

What I think is that they took injections, were told it was okay, believed it because Hirdy said it was all kosher, then they found out it wasn't. They've been back-pedalling ever since, and propped up by the AFL who has done everything possible to get them off with zero penalty.
Except that en masse they failed to disclose anything when being randomly tested by ASADA. Hell of a coincidence.
 

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what a load of horse shit if that happens

Gary made a good point (one that must have occurred to everyone really...) about the Melbourne tanking debacle. If an international body investigated that, no way the Dee's escape with simply a fine.
He was interviewed on AFL360 and basically said the Dons have been penalised enough by the AFL. :rolleyes:
 

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Footy Classified just said that Port will pay Monfries for this year (according to them). Not sure I agree with this in principal. You get banned for a year and still get remuneration for that year???!!!
 

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They were all happy to be injected when they thought that it would help them.
I actually can't believe the level of sympathy for the players, they got injected with stuff, it wasn't like someone spiked their powerades.
Hird is an absolute grub.
Watson should handback his Brownlow. It's the ethical thing to do, he may have thought that he was within the rules but he wasn't and has now been suspended for doping during the period that he won the medal.
The AFL should be re-examining the club and hammering with further sanctions, this was a top down, systematic approach to gain advantage over the competition that was outside the bounds of the rules.
 
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What this shows is how dodgy the AFL is. For too long they have done what they wanted to suit the outcome they wanted.

Gary Lyons World Tanking authority comment whilst said with tongue in cheek was accurate. The Melbourne tanking outcome was a joke.

Just as the afl executives receive bonuses they should also be held accountable and fined for bullshitting.
 

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Footy Classified just said that Port will pay Monfries for this year (according to them). Not sure I agree with this in principal. You get banned for a year and still get remuneration for that year???!!!
AFL anti doping code allows for some or all payment to be withheld. Some could be $1. Withhold money from these players and what do you get? Lawsuits for loss and damages.
 
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