2016 Non-Crows AFL Discussion - Cont. in Part 2 (link in OP)

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Correct good post. To think otherwise is naive and likely that a person hasn't played footy at a club.

The coach rules, period.
However as we learnt officially today to protect professional players the coach no longer has control over what you put in your body. I whole heartedly agree with this too.
 

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Interestingly in that 2012 game, Jab Watson got 3, Clanger 2 and Slaone 1.

Thommo had the second most disposals that night. You could argue he would have got the one vote which cost him a Charlie.
 

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Sounds like Essendon will get the #1 draft pick... Gillon said "they've already been punished". But crap if you ask me, in 2017 they'll get Players back and also managed to offload a number of players for top picks over the last couple of years too... Look at Carlisle ffs
 

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Sounds like Essendon will get the #1 draft pick... Gillon said "they've already been punished". But crap if you ask me, in 2017 they'll get Players back and also managed to offload a number of players for top picks over the last couple of years too... Look at Carlisle ffs
Don't forget they get the opportunity to put games into all their kids which will hold them in good stead when the drug cheats return along with the number 1 pick. I also believe that Jab will return in 2017. Unlikely to get a gig in the media now or possibly even as an assistant. You don't turn down potentially $600k unless you can get it somewhere else.

FFS some Club bosses need to challenge this.
 

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And Also back when they copped their draft sanctions Gillon stated that they took into account Essendon's full assistance and openness with the AFL's investigation when deciding how severely to whack them. What a load of lies and bullshit.
They blatantly lied on their forms, however with that said I understand they were told not to say they are taking any supplements.
 

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The post wasnt aimed at you, you said you played at a Club. Any poster on here that has played at a Club will know just how impossible it is to challenge a Coach or the Club, in effect it is career suicide. Dont be childish.
Yes it was. It was written directly after I spoke about not understanding the sympathy for the players.
If you are going to have a crack at least have the spine to stick with it.
 

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Yes it was. It was written directly after I spoke about not understanding the sympathy for the players.
If you are going to have a crack at least have the spine to stick with it.
You said you have played at football Clubs. I am sticking with what I am saying it is naive to think that the coach does not rule the Club. Maybe you didnt play long enough to appreciate this, I dont know and I really dont care. Dont be so sensitive. I said its naive, meaning a lack of experience. Thats not abuse unlike your post.
 

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This guy was hounded down at the time but is definitely vindicated now for speaking the truth!

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Apart from the little racist dig at the end that was bloody well done and very funny, and unfortunately all true.
 

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David King..... "teams like Geelong that are right up there at the moment" ffs... The more they build em up the harder they'll fall.
Richmond are the other beneficiary of this, two games against the Dons. Basically they need just 10 wins from their remaining games to play in finals. Similarly so do the Cats, throw in that they will beat the likes of the Blues, Lions 2x and Demons. If you "pencil" those in thats 6 likely wins, they only need another 6 more to make the 8.
 

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He is right about the coach though. But as we learnt today its not a defense in the real world.
Yeah, I don't think that's in question.
Authority doesn't remove personal responsibility. They let people inject them, as I said, not spike the powerade. Then on individual level they lied to investigators during screenings and when it has all broke and people knew that the game was up, they ignored the infraction notices.
 
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I don't know. I find myself entirely dissatisfied with the penalties the club rec'd for what has now been determined to be a systematic doping regime. Missed their crack at a flag from 7th or 8th, big whoop. Less draft picks than us and a wad of cash, big deal.
I was talking the CAS penalties handed down today not the AFL fluff penalties.
 

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Just how many draft picks have Essendon lost in this debacle so far? I'm betting it's not as many as the Crows did for Tipshit.
By my count, though I am happy to be corrected, we lost 5 to their 3.
2 x 2013 first round (Our's and Sydney's)
1 x 2013 second round
1 x 2014 first round
1 x 2014 second round

Although the AFL did help us out by rejecting Jessie White.
 

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By my count, though I am happy to be corrected, we lost 5 to their 3.
2 x 2013 first round (Our's and Sydney's)
1 x 2013 second round
1 x 2014 first round
1 x 2014 second round

Although the AFL did help us out by rejecting Jessie White.
Now we just need this stickied to the main board as a reminder for any idiot who thinks Essendon are being harshly dealt with.
 
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By my count, though I am happy to be corrected, we lost 5 to their 3.
2 x 2013 first round (Our's and Sydney's)
1 x 2013 second round
1 x 2014 first round
1 x 2014 second round

Although the AFL did help us out by rejecting Jessie White.
Essendon's penalty is they will have to take Jessie White from the Pies... ;)
 
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