List Mgmt. 2016 Potential Draft Picks

[scottjr]

Based on Quigleys analysis I'm not sure we are interested in Battle, Marshall and English along with Witherden are noteworthy as not rated as highly as views elsewhere. Venables likewise.

 

[Macca19]

Quigley has produced his power rankings. If you have nothing to do before next Friday (including sleep) you can probably get through everything he's written but the highlight for me was Brandon Parfitt at 10.

I've wanted to really like Parfitt- spent time at Alberton, ball winning inside mid, very highly rated last year, did well again for NT this year but, according to Quigley, played out of position by Kennelly for Allies and All Stars.

Could he be the one we were confident would still be there at 14? Is he yet another example of the annual BF Groupthink underestimating (and overestimating) certain players?

Quigs loves him and has done for 18 months.

Not sure its BF group think, none of the journalists have him rated highly either. Parfitt going at 14 would be a bit of a shock. I think we'd be keen with 30/31 though.

 

[scottjr]

Parfitt with Ollie would go well in our midfield. Really well

 

[Needs Gravy]

Since when did Brodie become the be all and end all key to the entire existence of the universe?

Since it gave us a chance to complain about something that probably won't happen.

 

[Killer Power]

Far too much sensibility in this post. From the games and highlights I've seen of Brodie, I think he is almost unquestionably an AFL talent. But there's no reason we couldn't pick up a better player or combination of players with the selections we have.

Fair enough. The point here though is that there could be a top notch player slide to #9 depending on what GC do with their picks. The counter argument is that we should be able to get as good a player at #14. This may or may not turn out to be true but begs the question why top 10 picks are so highly valued in the first place or why others think our move from #19 down to #17 is substantial.

I love the fact that we have two picks in the teens in a so called even draft however am dubious as to how we got there remembering that we could have retained #9 and still had #19 and #30. Effectively we have moved our first pick back 5 places to get a pick at #31 so what we are really pondering is if a high first rounder and a second rounder is better than a top 10 pick. I don't think that is unreasonable.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Don't want Parfitt. He may turn out to be a good player elsewhere but he absolutely doesn't fill a need for us.

 

[Popielnicki]

14 Venables
17 Simpkin/Florent if gone Gallucci
30 Drew/Atley
31Ryan
Venables now tops my list broke his leg in 2015 and had hip surgery so to show what he did in 2016 is very impressive. A Afl pre season under his belt i can see him playing a role 2017 and has a huge upside in the future

 

[PJ Power]

Has there ever been another draft where there are so many desirable combinations of players for us?

I keep changing my mind every 24h. Hope Geoff Parker doesn't suffer from the same malleability of preference.

In an ideal world if I could control realistically the recruiting of other clubs, my Nov 19 preference is:
1. SPP at 14
2. Gallucci at 19 - another who's warmed on me the more I read and watch about him.
3. Drew at 30
4. Battle at 31, although Mutch would be a very close alternative
5. Use pick 85 if there's someone we rated but slid through
6. Barrett with our PSD or first rookie pick
7. Mason Shaw with a rookie pick
8. Brett Eddy with a rookie pick

Shaw and Eddy more likely if we don't take the four mids with our first four picks.

Probably midfielder overkill, but in time it has a domino effect allowing Robbie to play forward more.

I'll have my updated version on Nov 20.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Has there ever been another draft where there are so many desirable combinations of players for us?

I keep changing my mind every 24h. Hope Geoff Parker doesn't suffer from the same malleability of preference.

In an ideal world if I could control realistically the recruiting of other clubs, my Nov 19 preference is:
1. SPP at 14
2. Gallucci at 19 - another who's warmed on me the more I read and watch about him.
3. Drew at 30
4. Battle at 31, although Mutch would be a very close alternative
5. Use pick 85 if there's someone we rated but slid through
6. Barrett with our PSD or first rookie pick
7. Mason Shaw with a rookie pick
8. Brett Eddy with a rookie pick

Shaw and Eddy more likely if we don't take the four mids with our first four picks.

Probably midfielder overkill, but in time it has a domino effect allowing Robbie to play forward more.

I'll have my updated version on Nov 20.

Why the Mason Shaw love?

What has changed in his ability or attitude over 12 months?

 

[DaTBird187]

Why the Mason Shaw love?

What has changed in his ability or attitude over 12 months?

Apparently when combined with Will Brodie, they become Voltron.

 

[missionpossible]

I think what is getting left out of the discussion is the massive difference in pick 31 and 49

 

[Lagooner]

Why the Mason Shaw love?

What has changed in his ability or attitude over 12 months?

People are desperate. We have Dixon and Horton's Whoville in the forward line heading into a draft that is light on KPF talent.

I think what is getting left out of the discussion is the massive difference in pick 31 and 49

This and the fact that we don't have a 2017 first rounder are the two things that are constantly being left out.

 

[missionpossible]

Venables love is interesting. Then his coach comes out and says needs to improve "endurance. Ball winning. Midfield craft ". Nothing here to alwviate my fears

 

[missionpossible]

People are desperate. We have Dixon and Horton's Whoville in the forward line heading into a draft that is light on KPF talent.



This and the fact that we don't have a 2017 first rounder are the two things that are constantly being left out.

That was a different trade

 

[Jason K]

Don't want Parfitt. He may turn out to be a good player elsewhere but he absolutely doesn't fill a need for us.

I want him so we obviously disagree, but I don't see how he doesn't fill a need. He's a mid who is great on the inside and moves well. Has that side step that Ken loves and his disposal is neat. Would also be a good news story for our academy. I'm with Quigley on Parfitt. Have wanted him at Port since last year.

 

[Lagooner]

That was a different trade

It's still very relevant to our final draft position though.

The amount of times I've read that we've turned Picks 9 and 49 into 4 x Top 30 picks makes Homer something something.

 

[Far Kern]

People are desperate. We have Dixon and Horton's Whoville in the forward line heading into a draft that is light on KPF talent.



This and the fact that we don't have a 2017 first rounder are the two things that are constantly being left out.

I've wondered about this. Total speculation: when do academy picks come online for us/do we have one up our sleeve next year? Else is someone leaving?

 

[Popielnicki]

Venables love is interesting. Then his coach comes out and says needs to improve "endurance. Ball winning. Midfield craft ". Nothing here to alwviate my fears

Well endurance will come becoming a full time afl footballer and if Voss does his job Venables has the traits to become a A grade goal kicking midfielder

 

[rogerjames]

14 Venables
17 Simpkin/Florent if gone Gallucci
30 Drew/Atley
31Ryan
Venables now tops my list broke his leg in 2015 and had hip surgery so to show what he did in 2016 is very impressive. A Afl pre season under his belt i can see him playing a role 2017 and has a huge upside in the future

Hip surgery worries me a bit

 

[Big Rig Power]

Hip surgery worries me a bit

I agree just ask toump when he finishes of course

 

[rogerjames]

I agree just ask toump when he finishes of course

And Butcher

 

[Popielnicki]

And Butcher[/QUOTE

Nothing major i remember Pendlebury Swan having hip ops couple yrs ago didn't slow them down Toumpas and Butcher cant blame hip surgery for being average players

 

[PJ Power]

Why the Mason Shaw love?

What has changed in his ability or attitude over 12 months?

Taking him as our last rookie wouldn't be love.

 

[missionpossible]

Ok here goes. Draft rankings. Not an indication of where I think they go or where I would pick them. I am fully aware I have players on this list higher and lower than they would be rated by afl clubs.

McCluggage
McGrath
Taranto
Brodie
SPS
Bowes
Florent
Galluci
Poholke
Simpkin
Witherden
Atley
Drew
Ainsworth
Berry
Marshall
SPP
Clarke
Scrimshaw
Louge
Hayward
Garthwaite
Setterfield
Kerr
Perryman
English
Sproule
Rotham
Allison
Brown
B.Cox
Fisher
Luke Ryan
Bunker
Williams
Mutch
Venables
Liam Ryan
Narkle
Long
Bolton
Ladhams
Scharenberg
Graham
Maibaum
Ridley
Olango
Scheer
Young
Guelfi
Pittman
Slimming
Strnadica
Lyons
Williamson
Lee
Cameron
Sweet
Leinert

 

[PJ Power]

Ok here goes. Draft rankings. Not an indication of where I think they go or where I would pick them. I am fully aware I have players on this list higher and lower than they would be rated by afl clubs.

McCluggage
McGrath
Taranto
Brodie
SPS
Bowes
Florent
Galluci
Poholke
Simpkin
Witherden
Atley
Drew
Ainsworth
Berry
Marshall
SPP
Clarke
Scrimshaw
Louge
Hayward
Garthwaite
Setterfield
Kerr
Perryman
English
Sproule
Rotham
Allison
Brown
B.Cox
Fisher
Luke Ryan
Bunker
Williams
Mutch
Venables
Liam Ryan
Narkle
Long
Bolton
Ladhams
Scharenberg
Graham
Maibaum
Ridley
Olango
Scheer
Young
Guelfi
Pittman
Slimming
Strnadica
Lyons
Williamson
Lee
Cameron
Sweet
Leinert

Thanks for this.
Looks like Gallucci at pick 14 and Drew at pick 30 would be considered a win in your books.