List Mgmt. 2016 Potential Draft Picks

[OneGreatClub]

From Knightmares phantom draft.

http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/17897568/knightmare-first-2017-afl-phantom-draft

Pick 14: Port Adelaide
Who they'll pick: Jy Simpkin
Why he goes here: Missing the season with a broken leg, Simpkin, 181cm, 71kg when healthy can provide Port Adelaide with much needed skill and x-factor up forward or pushing up through the midfield. He is one of the best kicks into the forward 50m in this draft and displays composure with ball in hand and excellent vision. He has good acceleration and also is a good finisher around goal who can hit the scoreboard.

Pick 17: Port Adelaide
Who they'll pick: Will Hayward
Why he goes here: Hayward, a leadup forward at 186cm, 76kg felt unstoppable during SANFL Under-18 finals with 13 goals in his final two games. A smart, strong-marking forward, Hayward is at his best inside the forward 50m. He creates separation on the lead, takes marks at the highest point, is an aerial and one-on-one marking threat. Hayward is also clean at ground level and provides heavy scoreboard impact.

Pick 30: Port Adelaide
Who they'll pick: Alex Villis
Why he goes here: Villis, a 182cm, 70kg outside player, is one of the more reliable ball users in this year's draft. He uses it well on both sides of the body, makes good decisions with ball in hand and would be a suitable list fit for Port Adelaide on a wing or coming out of defence.

Pick 31: Port Adelaide
Who they'll pick: Myles Poholke
Why he goes here: Poholke at 184cm, 84kg is a strong-bodied utility who can play through the midfield or at either end. He is a strong contested-ball winner who tackles with intensity and is a strong mark overhead.

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[Holden Hillbilly]

From Knightmares phantom draft.

http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/17897568/knightmare-first-2017-afl-phantom-draft

Pick 14: Port Adelaide
Who they'll pick: Jy Simpkin
Why he goes here: Missing the season with a broken leg, Simpkin, 181cm, 71kg when healthy can provide Port Adelaide with much needed skill and x-factor up forward or pushing up through the midfield. He is one of the best kicks into the forward 50m in this draft and displays composure with ball in hand and excellent vision. He has good acceleration and also is a good finisher around goal who can hit the scoreboard.

Pick 17: Port Adelaide
Who they'll pick: Will Hayward
Why he goes here: Hayward, a leadup forward at 186cm, 76kg felt unstoppable during SANFL Under-18 finals with 13 goals in his final two games. A smart, strong-marking forward, Hayward is at his best inside the forward 50m. He creates separation on the lead, takes marks at the highest point, is an aerial and one-on-one marking threat. Hayward is also clean at ground level and provides heavy scoreboard impact.

Pick 30: Port Adelaide
Who they'll pick: Alex Villis
Why he goes here: Villis, a 182cm, 70kg outside player, is one of the more reliable ball users in this year's draft. He uses it well on both sides of the body, makes good decisions with ball in hand and would be a suitable list fit for Port Adelaide on a wing or coming out of defence.

Pick 31: Port Adelaide
Who they'll pick: Myles Poholke
Why he goes here: Poholke at 184cm, 84kg is a strong-bodied utility who can play through the midfield or at either end. He is a strong contested-ball winner who tackles with intensity and is a strong mark overhead.

We aren't going to waste a 1st pick on a player with a broken leg. Especially when Berry & SPP still available.

 

[1954]

Don't want any of these players. Small mids and flankers aren't what we need right now.

Agreed, only 1 of the 4 named has any size at all, so I doubt a lot of thought was put into those suggestions.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Agreed, only 1 of the 4 named has any size at all, so I doubt a lot of thought was put into those suggestions.

Knightmare is in the top few draft posters on this site, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's across each club's list needs.

 

[Macca19]

So Knightmare has us taking zero inside mids. Righteo then.

Poholke can play that role. Other than that, it's just a best available phantom

 

[Wargreymon90]

Knightmare loves to be unique with his player comparisons. Which I don't mind. The mainstream draft experts liken everyone to either Hodge or Pendlebury

 

[PatientMental]

Hasnt ken said they plan to load up on outside polish at the draft?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I really like Hayward, there's a bit of freak talent about him. But that's a big dice roll in the teens especially if we take Marshall. Pity we didn't have a pick in the mid-20s. If he's there at 30/31 I would draft him.

 

[NEGAN]

I think I am an SPP man, then Marshall

I don't think both will survive to our picks

 

[ClickBOOM1870]

Powell pepper wont go in 1st rd from what i have heard. I personally would stay clear im liking 14 Venables 17 Marshall 30 Atley 31 B/A

Im hoping that the 13 other clubs who pick before us feel the same way you do

 

[Macca19]

I think Hayward could definitely sneak into the teens. His finals series was ridiculous. 9 goals in a Prelim and 4 in a GF, followed up by a good showing in the all stars game would have pushed him further up the rankings.

From a pure talent stand point, getting Simpkin, Hayward, Villis and Poholke would be a very good draft, even if it doesnt solve some needs.

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Berry and SPP with our first 2 picks please.

i reckon we should bid on Sproule at 30 and then take Atley/Drew/Ridley/Scharenberg and Villis/Hayward/Poholke

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I think Hayward could definitely sneak into the teens. His finals series was ridiculous. 9 goals in a Prelim and 4 in a GF, followed up by a good showing in the all stars game would have pushed him further up the rankings.

From a pure talent stand point, getting Simpkin, Hayward, Villis and Poholke would be a very good draft, even if it doesnt solve some needs.

His 9 goal prelim final was - dare I say it - Robranesque (he wears 10 for North Adelaide so that springs readily to mind).

 

[It Just Is]

I really like Hayward, there's a bit of freak talent about him. But that's a big dice roll in the teens especially if we take Marshall. Pity we didn't have a pick in the mid-20s. If he's there at 30/31 I would draft him.

In an ideal world 1 or 2 of Hayward, Powell-Pepper, Simpkin or Gallucci will be available at pick 30.

All players I really want and would be in contention for pick 17 but probably not a risk I'd like us to take so early.

 

[Peck]

Powell-Pepper seems like the type of player in vogue right now. I’d only seen his highlights from last year and was wondering how he could possibly be considered for pick 14.

It seems like the consensus is that he will go after 17 so I would be surprised if we were into him.

 

[KenOath]

I really like Hayward, there's a bit of freak talent about him. But that's a big dice roll in the teens especially if we take Marshall. Pity we didn't have a pick in the mid-20s. If he's there at 30/31 I would draft him.

Especially considering GC had three of these available when we gave away our future first rounder!

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

I don't hate Knightmare's phantom draft for us.

But it does have Taranto available at Sydney's pick...

 

[philthy05]

Powell pepper wont go in 1st rd from what i have heard. I personally would stay clear im liking 14 Venables 17 Marshall 30 Atley 31 B/A

Venables is a huge huge red flag for me. Ild only bite at 31 after selecting 3 players I really like. Could be anything but those low production types often stay low production.

From Knightmares phantom draft.

http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/17897568/knightmare-first-2017-afl-phantom-draft

Pick 14: Port Adelaide
Who they'll pick: Jy Simpkin
Why he goes here: Missing the season with a broken leg, Simpkin, 181cm, 71kg when healthy can provide Port Adelaide with much needed skill and x-factor up forward or pushing up through the midfield. He is one of the best kicks into the forward 50m in this draft and displays composure with ball in hand and excellent vision. He has good acceleration and also is a good finisher around goal who can hit the scoreboard.

Pick 17: Port Adelaide
Who they'll pick: Will Hayward
Why he goes here: Hayward, a leadup forward at 186cm, 76kg felt unstoppable during SANFL Under-18 finals with 13 goals in his final two games. A smart, strong-marking forward, Hayward is at his best inside the forward 50m. He creates separation on the lead, takes marks at the highest point, is an aerial and one-on-one marking threat. Hayward is also clean at ground level and provides heavy scoreboard impact.

Pick 30: Port Adelaide
Who they'll pick: Alex Villis
Why he goes here: Villis, a 182cm, 70kg outside player, is one of the more reliable ball users in this year's draft. He uses it well on both sides of the body, makes good decisions with ball in hand and would be a suitable list fit for Port Adelaide on a wing or coming out of defence.

Pick 31: Port Adelaide
Who they'll pick: Myles Poholke
Why he goes here: Poholke at 184cm, 84kg is a strong-bodied utility who can play through the midfield or at either end. He is a strong contested-ball winner who tackles with intensity and is a strong mark overhead.

Don't want any of these players. Small mids and flankers aren't what we need right now.

Talent wise there is plenty there.

Swap Hayward (who in my eyes could be a superstar or could just always be a forward pocket) for berry or spp and I like it a fair bit better.

Simpkin I really like. Anyone who writes him off as an unneeded flanker needs to assess where we fall down as a team. Our footskills in the forward half are terrible. My question marks over Simpkin are how much he can stay involved in games.

A Simpkin , villis and poholke draft actually fill needs for us. Hayward doessnt but it would be a pick on talent.

 

[raptalia]

You don't often see inside mid work in a highlights package mate. Powell Pepper has the potential to be the clear best player in this draft. I would absolutely take him at 14, but I don't think he will be there still unfortunately.

Sure, but in a highlights package you often see a player take on another player. In the package I saw I doubt that Powell- Pepper had a player within 5 metres of him. I would like to see how he goes when he takes another player on and has to tackle or is put under pressure by another player. That is not a criticsm of Powell himself, just a dig at whoever put the package together.

If we draft this guy we draft him I am fine with it but whoever we pick we have to get it right as we do not have the luxury of taking on project players.

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

Venables is a huge huge red flag for me. Ild only bite at 31 after selecting 3 players I really like. Could be anything but those low production types often stay low production.

I don't know about that. I'm not saying he's gonna be Nat Fyfe, but Quigley's write up on Fyfe in his 2009 mock:

At present I think the biggest issue for him is to find ways to get more of the ball. He is a low possession winner at present and whilst he still has an influence on the game his endurance should allow him to get more of it than he currently does.

I think learning to find more of the ball is one of the easier things to learn in an AFL environment, if that's the role you've been earmarked for, and Venables is great in one on one contests, which will help him find more of the ball as he develops.

Ben Jacobs also got drafted on the back of his huge production - now he's ended up a tagger.

 

[PepeSilvia]

PS Richmond must like him! They have a highlights package of him on the website. It mostly features highlights from his games for East Perth. Really worth looking at!
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-10-26/draft-prospect-sam-powellpepper-jrz

Okay I totally get the love now.

 

[Adz2332]

I don't hate Knightmare's phantom draft for us.

But it does have Taranto available at Sydney's pick...

yep waiting for draft night..... he better not be

 

[philthy05]

I don't know about that. I'm not saying he's gonna be Nat Fyfe, but Quigley's write up on Fyfe in his 2009 mock:



I think learning to find more of the ball is one of the easier things to learn in an AFL environment, if that's the role you've been earmarked for, and Venables is great in one on one contests, which will help him find more of the ball as he develops.

Ben Jacobs also got drafted on the back of his huge production - now he's ended up a tagger.

For every Nat Fyfe there is a hundred that go the other way.

I'm not saying venables will bust , but it is too high a possibility to go real early on him. Especially if I was port I wouldnt bite with 14. As I said 31 if we had picked up some high quality then I would feel safer. I too believe he has some stuff that could make him a star.

I would disagree though that becoming a high volume ballwinner is the easiest thing to pick up at afl level. Look at port , how many low production types have we ever turned into high volume winners?

I guess it depends on whether the issues are fitness , workrate , or football smarts.

For instance. Robbie gray is an example of someone who I believe was a low production guy selected by port who became a high volume ball winner. For him you could see the ability to win the ball and the positioning and smarts. It was fitness and to some extent workrate. They were fixable in Robbies case over an extended time.

 

[Macca19]

Sure, but in a highlights package you often see a player take on another player. In the package I saw I doubt that Powell- Pepper had a player within 5 metres of him. I would like to see how he goes when he takes another player on and has to tackle or is put under pressure by another player. That is not a criticsm of Powell himself, just a dig at whoever put the package together.

If we draft this guy we draft him I am fine with it but whoever we pick we have to get it right as we do not have the luxury of taking on project players.

Two of the first three highlights in this game are him pushing and burning off an opponent to get clear. He's not an inside player, he's an outside player who can win contested ball.

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

For every Nat Fyfe there is a hundred that go the other way.

I'm not saying venables will bust , but it is too high a possibility to go real early on him. Especially if I was port I wouldnt bite with 14. As I said 31 if we had picked up some high quality then I would feel safer. I too believe he has some stuff that could make him a star.

I would disagree though that becoming a high volume ballwinner is the easiest thing to pick up at afl level. Look at port , how many low production types have we ever turned into high volume winners?

I guess it depends on whether the issues are fitness , workrate , or football smarts.

For instance. Robbie gray is an example of someone who I believe was a low production guy selected by port who became a high volume ball winner. For him you could see the ability to win the ball and the positioning and smarts. It was fitness and to some extent workrate. They were fixable in Robbies case over an extended time.

I get what you're saying that it isn't always the case, though I didn't say it was the easiest thing. I just think it's one of the easier things - there is only one ball and a lot of game planning will go into getting it to specific players. I think Venables' outstanding ability to win his own contested ball will stand him in good stead. He's also split half his time on the ball and half in the forward line which would obviously affect his numbers - but he has tended to go missing for periods, which can obviously go either way.

He definitely won't be there at 30, and every player has a possibility of being a bust. I guess I just don't see Venables as having a higher possibility - especially with his ability to play forward.