List Mgmt. 2016 re-signing mission accomplished!

[Lace Out]

Seems destined for PSD on low money

 

[jackess]

I think Green is worth more to us than any other club. A genuine goal sneak and I hope Fagan and co. will be able to transform his habits and efforts.

He'll have to rein in his massive ego first.

 

[BrizzyBandit]

You reap what you sow

 

[Hollow Knight]

Seems destined for PSD on low money

Free agent. Won't even have to face the draft.

 

[Milux]

Just putting it out there, this is a candidate for comment of the year.

Not always a fan. But that was a belter.

 

[Old Den]

Very happy with the 3 year contract for Darcy...an important re-signing IMO.

 

[Dalions]

He is a good small forward, if all you want from your small forward is forward running, and goal kicking, but realistically, small forwards haven't been able to get away with no defensive pressure for ten years.

He was a mid fielder as a junior and at one stage I know he wanted to break into the midfield rotation. I get the mpression though that at some stage in the last couple of years, he got comfortable being a small forward, and then just got comfortable, and once you stop trying to improve you go backwards quickly in this game. His skills with Banfields effort could have been special.

He fell away badly in his defensive pressure this year. He was never great, but very bad this year.
His preparation lacks the desire and therefore he is no longer able to keep up with the demands of modern day footy.

 

[snooplions]

Give him a year imo. Clean slate, if he can't break in again and play more than 14 games next year get rid of him. With that said, I trust Fagan's decision will be the right one for the team.

 

[MacMum]

I think Green is worth more to us than any other club. A genuine goal sneak and I hope Fagan and co. will be able to transform his habits and efforts.

Yes, I'd rather he stays, IF Fagan can turn him back into one of the little mozzies that we loved.

 

[a mayes ing]

Cut him loose, new era with high training standards. It's gonna seep through the playing list if everyone works hard and puts in and they see some guy not working hard, eating badly and putting a dampener on everyone.

 

[cotter101]

I'd be open to giving him a 1 year deal. If he doesn't cut it in the seniors there is a spot in the reserves.

 

[dlanod]

I'd be open to giving him a 1 year deal. If he doesn't cut it in the seniors there is a spot in the reserves.

I like the idea of taking him in the rookie draft if he's still available if we're giving him a one year deal.

 

[cotter101]

I like the idea of taking him in the rookie draft if he's still available if we're giving him a one year deal.

It's a shame with Green. A couple years about he looked like becoming a very good 40+ goals a year small forward with decent defensive pressure. The potentially is clearly there. He needs to work with the club to unlock it though.

At he best he is easily our best small forward and would be a best 22 lock. Unfortuantley that wasn't the case this year. Needs to hit the pre season very hard wherever he ends up next season.

 

[wantok]

Some very harsh comments considering Green had an up an down season with a foot injury. Very hard to play football on one foot. If he can get himself fit and free of injury he has shown he can be very handy footballer. He may have made some outlandish contract demands and will just have to eat some humble pie but I would offer him a one year 100k contract with some incentives and see what happens this year.

 

[Biggies]

So do we start a 2017 re-signing thread now

McStay, Schache, Cuts etc

 

[dlanod]

So do we start a 2017 re-signing thread now

McStay, Schache, Cuts etc

Let's not just yet.

 

[braddsey]

Some very harsh comments considering Green had an up an down season with a foot injury. Very hard to play football on one foot. If he can get himself fit and free of injury he has shown he can be very handy footballer. He may have made some outlandish contract demands and will just have to eat some humble pie but I would offer him a one year 100k contract with some incentives and see what happens this year.

I would wait until after the draft before resigning him. See how the market rates our academy boys. If they (or at least one of them) can slide to the rookie list then offer him a contract. I would be giving him a low base, but with high incentives. Not necessarily only based on games played, but also for targets, maintaining standards etc. Money can do a lot to incentivise people when nothing else works... and a clear signal he's at last chance.

 

[bato]

Brisbane Lions ‏@brisbanelions 3m3 minutes ago
We have secured the services of ruckman Archie Smith until at least the end of 2018.

 

[jackess]

Brisbane Lions ‏@brisbanelions 3m3 minutes ago
We have secured the services of ruckman Archie Smith until at least the end of 2018.

Good to see. A bit of a risk having him as our second ruckman next season but if he can continue to develop the timing should be right in a couple of years to take over from Stef.

 

[Quigley]

I hope we keep Green. We have a huge hole for that role and he still has a lot of potential. Give the new strength and conditioning coach a crack at him and we could have a real force. I thought this year was the first where he looked to have genuinely accepted his forward role and was working on the skills associated with that. Injury and condition inhibited him but he was nowhere near as bad as most on here seem to have concluded. Lack of defensive pressure was an issue but you could say the same for 21 other players on the park each week. New structures, new expectations could turn that around.

Gardiner re-signing is a bit of meh for me. Slow undersized defender who gives away silly frees and is outpositioned too often. Personally I cannot see him being in our side when we get back to the finals. Depth player.

 

[Biggies]

Gardiner re-signing is a bit of meh for me. Slow undersized defender who gives away silly frees and is outpositioned too often. Personally I cannot see him being in our side when we get back to the finals. Depth player.

Gardiner is a really interesting one in the way he divides so many Lions supporters. I dare say it's almost 50/50 with how fans seem to rate him.

I'm personally a fan. Just a good old fashioned, shut down and annoy/frustrate the forward at all costs type of guy. Think he's had to deal with a ridiculous amount of forward 50 entries and pressure in his first few years of development but has still shown enough to be real cog in our future finals team.

Understand the reservations though. Just find it interesting the giant gap in how supporters seem to rate him.

 

[jackess]

Gardiner is a really interesting one in the way he divides so many Lions supporters. I dare say it's almost 50/50 with how fans seem to rate him.

I'm personally a fan. Just a good old fashioned, shut down and annoy/frustrate the forward at all costs type of guy. Think he's had to deal with a ridiculous amount of forward 50 entries and pressure in his first few years of development but has still shown enough to be real cog in our future finals team.

Understand the reservations though. Just find it interesting the giant gap in how supporters seem to rate him.

Possibly our pathetic team defence makes him look worse then he is and the people who rate him overcompensate for it.

 

[bato]

I still see real star potential in Green. Can't even count how many times he's fired us up, I'd argue he's had more crucial match shaping moments than Zorko has.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

I still see real star potential in Green. Can't even count how many times he's fired us up, I'd argue he's had more crucial match shaping moments than Zorko has.

Admittedly a lot of these were when he was a sub. Lately a lot less so...

 

[Skoob]

I still see real star potential in Green. Can't even count how many times he's fired us up, I'd argue he's had more crucial match shaping moments than Zorko has.

Trouble with the Poodle is that those "moments" are all he offers. In between "moments", we don't get much out of him.
If he stays, he is probably worth giving a one year chance to shape up under new leadership, but whether he deserves that chance is the question.