List Mgmt. 2016 Trade and Free Agency Targets Part 1

Who do you hope we target?

  • Daniel Rich - Brisbane Lions (Free Agent)

    Votes: 21 7.5%
  • Jaeger O'Meara - Gold Coast Suns (Trade)

    Votes: 112 40.1%
  • Dion Prestia - Gold Coast Suns (Trade)

    Votes: 53 19.0%
  • Tom Lynch - Gold Coast Suns(Trade)

    Votes: 24 8.6%
  • Ollie Wines - Port (Trade)

    Votes: 55 19.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 23.3%
  • Peter Wright - Gold Coast Suns (Trade)

    Votes: 23 8.2%
  • Tom Rockliff

    Votes: 15 5.4%

  • Total voters
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Not being a smart arse at all. Just trying to point out that the Dogs are 2 years ahead of us & we may well finish the year just 2-3 wins off them. I have no doubts that in their 5th seasons, both Eli & Sincs would be better players than Lin Jong. Richie is the best developer of kids in the game. Back him in
Well if they are 2 years ahead they'll need to be contending this year or the next.
 

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Think Gresham will end up a mid, think there's little doubt about it after last week.

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Someone was talking about the B Harvey comparison the other day, which is the very obvious one. But for some reason I had read it as a Rob comparison. Seemed quite fitting. Can't be tackled, clever, big ball winning capability.
 

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Can we go back to Fyfe talk?

Comparisons to the Judd trade are a way off IMO. Carlton bought Judd to build a team around, we already have the team (or 80% of it), we'd just be adding the best player in the AFL to it. I don't want to say the cherry on top, because it'd be more than that. I also think some of our current players would happily take a pay cut, or a lesser contract extension, if it meant playing alongside Fyfe, so the massive contract would be offset somewhat.

Even just thinking about Fyfe in RW&B..
 
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I'm amazed at the calls that we need to trade for more elite talent at the club. Sure, I'd love Fyfe or Brad Crouch, but at the same time, I look at our team & we've gone from listless Wooden spooners (4 wins) in 2014 to 9th (10 wins with 3 games to play) on the ladder in 2016, just 2 seasons later. This years season also excludes the 2 elitely talented blokes we traded for last year in Carlisle & Freeman. And while I still see Freeman as a 50/50 proposition, there's no denying that our backline has a 200cm sized hole in it & we already have an elite talented bloke to slot straight in there come 2017.

People need to look a bit deeper at our list - Dunstan, Acres, Billings, Gresham, McCartin, McKenzie, Lonie etc & really see that each of these blokes have an abundance of elite skills, and while it's just 'talent' at the moment, let's please give our kids some ******* time before we pigeon-hole them.

People keep banging on about Melbourne & Collingwood having better depth... Maybe they do? Maybe they don't? All I know is that we have a far better coach & I'll back our team to be better than theirs due to this very fact. He's the best developer of young players in the business
I dont get the love for Melbourne and Collingwood's midfield's, over ours.

Melbourne as a lot of talent but Jones is still clearly there best, with Viney not far behind. Petracca hasn't been as impacting as people thought (Billings is a more skilled player) and Brayshaw has second year blues (Seb's counterpart?). Vince is just hot and cold. Oliver is not the better of Acres, and the rest I can't even name. We have these boys covered in my opinion. Armo is the equal of Jones, but who is Melbourne's Steven? And then there's the Demons one trick forward line... Melbourne are always being put ahead of us by the fairytale side of the AFL media. Two more drafts/trade and we have a top four list. The Melbourne boys still don't tackle, they still don't have any backbone, and they still loose to our midfield everytime...

As for Collingwood, were are they? Do they know? Trelour and... Collingwood is seriously looking at Jong as a best 22, while we are (amongst ourselves) talking about him as depth, and the Pies have no first rounder this year. Our Midfield is on the improve and will have at least one (more likely two) other skill players for next year. Collingwood will get players back from injury, but Pendles is almost gone, Swan is dead in the water, and their midfield was towel up by ours earlier this year, when they had far less injuries and we were missing three players on the bench.

I just dont get the love for the lists of these clubs. Both have low Defensive and Offensive stocks, and - like the Bulldogs - they struggle to kick scores sometimes. Both midfields have lots of talent, but so does ours... In fact, I think ours is as good. Meanwhile we have better discipline, a far better forward line (and soon defence) and we are just, well... tougher!
 
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Not being a smart arse at all. Just trying to point out that the Dogs are 2 years ahead of us & we may well finish the year just 2-3 wins off them. I have no doubts that in their 5th seasons, both Eli & Sincs would be better players than Lin Jong. Richie is the best developer of kids in the game. Back him in
We saw enough of Sinclair last year to know he'll be a player. He was smart, skilled and could find the goals....kicked the second most in our team I think. Second year blues without a doubt but he'll come good.
Richo will get the best out of him.
 
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I dont get the love for Melbourne and Collingwood's midfield's, over ours.

Melbourne, as a lot of talent, but Jones is still clearly there best, with Viney not far behind. Petracca hasn't been as impacting as people thought (Billings is a more skilled player) and Brayshaw has second year blues (Seb's counterpart?). Vince is just hot and cold, Oliver is not the better of Acres, and the rest I can even name. We have these boys covered in my opinion, Armo is the equal of Jones, but who is there Steven? And then there is there one trick forward line... Melbourne are always being put ahead of us by the fairytale side of the AFL. Two more drafts/trade and we have a finals list, these boys still don't tackle, they still don't have any backbone, and they still loose to our midfield everytime...

And Collingwood: were are they? Do they know? Trelour and... Their seriously looking at Jong as a best 22, we are (amongst ourselves) talking about him as depth. No first rounder this year, our Midfield is on the improve and will have at least one (more likely two) other skill players for next year. Collingwood will get players back from injury, but Pendles is almost gone, Swan is dead in the water, and there midfield was towel up by ours earlier this year, when they had far less injuries and we were missing three players on the bench.

I just dont get the love for the lists of these clubs. There Defensive and Offensive stocks are low, and like the Bulldogs, they struggle to kick scores sometimes. There midfields have lots of talent, but so does ours... In fact, I think ours is as good, and we have better discipline and we are just, well... tougher!
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The best way to improve our depth is to add quality players and push our fringe players down the pecking order.

Steele and Marchbank if fit would be best 22 straight away and in a couple of years time you would think they would be in our top dozen players.

I don't think Jong is a spud, but he'd be a fringe player when entering the club and I can't see him improving a great deal to be honest.

I don't think we need to go after a Fyfe type, but there is no need to go after fringe players that don't have a huge scope for improvement.
 

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Yeah I reckon Lonie will still be a gun, Gresham probably ends up a small forward who plays some on ball being so small too, I'm not interested in Balantyne but it would look good on paper now. It's getting to be a pretty potent set up. Even Sinclair probably plays best as a small forward. Balantine is on the way back down.
I'm confident that Gresh & Sincas will both spend the majority of their time as mids. They will rotate through the fwd line but Lonie will be the yapping dog at Paddy's heels


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Someone said Eli or Sinclair would have been just as good at the Dogs if they had been given the same chances. They have both had shit years at senior level. I like both as players but they would not have had a better run at senior selection at the Dogs than Jong. Could pull you up the footywire compare thing if I could be bothered but I think you know what it would show, you are being a smart arse.
I actually said that 'who is to say that Eli wouldn't have played at a similar standard if he'd had the senior opportunities that Jong has had'.

Didn't compare Sincas to him. I said I hate to see Jong getting a game ahead of a heap of young Saints such as Sincas.

I'm putting in a vote to ban footy wire stats being used in an argument. I mean someone actually used them to suggest that Jong was a better player than Dunstan.


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Eli is no certainty (far from it) to be retained beyond this year. Yes he's been one of our best at Sandy, yes he's young & yes he's coming back from a horrific injury. All that is acknowledged. But he is close to being given the chop IMO.
 
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Fyfe is a great player but he didnt win Freo the flag nor did Judd for Carlton or Ablett for GCS. 1.5m for a single player is a sure way to alienate the rest of the list and eventually cause the club to lose developing younger players they cant fit into to salary cap.

Wouldnt having 3 x mids on 550-600k a year be better for our chances of sucess?

Posters have mentioned Eli Templeton is in the gun to be delisted. He is 21 and has had a really solid VFL year, he deserves more time to develop his game? I believe he is the type of player we need on a wing or running through the middle as he gives that link up run. Obviously Richo & co have issues with his game as he hasnt been evelated but
surely he wont be delisted, possibly traded?
 

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Fyfe is a great player but he didnt win Freo the flag nor did Judd for Carlton or Ablett for GCS.
Yeah but Fyfe is only 24. Could still win flags at Freo or elsewhere. If he was 28 id be a bit Meh. But at 24 he is just about to enter that perfect 24 - 28 age for a mid.
 
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