List Mgmt. 2016 Trade and Free Agency Targets Part 1

Who do you hope we target?

  • Daniel Rich - Brisbane Lions (Free Agent)

    Votes: 21 7.5%
  • Jaeger O'Meara - Gold Coast Suns (Trade)

    Votes: 112 40.1%
  • Dion Prestia - Gold Coast Suns (Trade)

    Votes: 53 19.0%
  • Tom Lynch - Gold Coast Suns(Trade)

    Votes: 24 8.6%
  • Ollie Wines - Port (Trade)

    Votes: 55 19.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 23.3%
  • Peter Wright - Gold Coast Suns (Trade)

    Votes: 23 8.2%
  • Tom Rockliff

    Votes: 15 5.4%

  • Total voters
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It's got to pretty corrosive on Paddy's self belief if a "legend" has a personal vendetta against him making it as a footballer. If I was 20 and some industry legend went public telling everyone how shit I was it would probably have smashed me. He's really just a flippant prattler with no regard for anyone else but Dermot. He's known for doing absolutely no research for his commentary or media roles and for forming strong opinions which he stubbornly backs. It's a pathetic stance on kids career as such and makes me see him as an enormous campaigner.
Exactly! Hope Paddy is doubly inspired to prove him wrong. Arrogant jerk!
 

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If O'Meara's knee comes up ok this year and he decides to come to Melbourne I think we are a huge shot at getting him. There's been dialogue there for a long time now. I think people are forgetting what an amazing first couple of years he had. If he gets back to full fitness he's a superstar in the making.
I'd say Prestia will end up at Dees if he goes, there'll still be some love left between them.
Whitfield is an interesting one. And Hurley will/is listening to other clubs in case he decides to test the rules with delisting himself. We are one of them.
I think I'm a little gun-shy about getting JOM until we know a little more about about how Freeman's hammy's are going to turn out. As great as JOM is, can we afford the risk of paying big time for a second player under a serious injury cloud? I suppose we'll know more by season's end.
 

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Derm just blasted paddy the whole time, absolute plonker of a bloke
King was actually reasonable, he's spot on that we need more young stars
I haven't seen it been at work but i disagree about lack of talent add Treloar or Dangerfield and we would be expected to play finals.
Personally think we are 1 elite mid short (especially if Freeman works out) plus game experience may take the season to get our team to gel and for players to get used to moving in and out of the midfield rather then the bench but next season we will be very strong and will surprise a few this year.
From our best 22 already Gresham, Webster, Savage, Sinclair, Freeman, Acres are fighting for spots while Montagna wants to go on. How would we get games into 2 or 3 more drafts of young talent thats why a recovered JOM or another established gun player who can contribute from day one is preferable to the draft.
We already have Armo, Steven, Billings, Montagna, Dunstan, Newnes, Roberton, plus Ross and Lonie looks like he is gonna take another step up as well.
Even before drafting or trading extra players if two of Webster, Savage and Weller just consistently preform we would do well.
Personally think Sinclair will take a step up by the end of the season.
 

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I haven't seen it been at work but i disagree about lack of talent add Treloar or Dangerfield and we would be expected to play finals.
Personally think we are 1 elite mid short (especially if Freeman works out) plus game experience may take the season to get our team to gel and for players to get used to moving in and out of the midfield rather then the bench but next season we will be very strong and will surprise a few this year.
From our best 22 already Gresham, Webster, Savage, Sinclair, Freeman, Acres are fighting for spots while Montagna wants to go on. How would we get games into 2 or 3 more drafts of young talent thats why a recovered JOM or another established gun player who can contribute from day one is preferable to the draft.
We already have Armo, Steven, Billings, Montagna, Dunstan, Newnes, Roberton, plus Ross and Lonie looks like he is gonna take another step up as well.
Even before drafting or trading extra players if two of Webster, Savage and Weller just consistently preform we would do well.
Personally think Sinclair will take a step up by the end of the season.
I agree mate, i think we need another talented young mid or two and maybe a defender and we'll be set
 

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I agree mate, i think we need another talented young mid or two and maybe a defender and we'll be set
I choose to have faith that Carlisle will come back ready to go.
Good teams stretch defenses we probably need another elite mid to give Savage and Webster space but the positive for me from the nab game was we were winning clearances over a team that is full of inside mids and would of done better if we had Lee in the side to run with Watts who is looking better with age and a better team. Also our defensive pressure on the ball carrier was way down and may just be because it was a practice match.
Recovered JOM or Whitfield i would back the truck up get the girlfriend a job and give GC the picks to get it done and then listen to King give him all the credit for lifting our side.
 

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I choose to have faith that Carlisle will come back ready to go.
Good teams stretch defenses we probably need another elite mid to give Savage and Webster space but the positive for me from the nab game was we were winning clearances over a team that is full of inside mids and would of done better if we had Lee in the side to run with Watts who is looking better with age and a better team. Also our defensive pressure on the ball carrier was way down and may just be because it was a practice match.
Recovered JOM or Whitfield i would back the truck up get the girlfriend a job and give GC the picks to get it done and then listen to King give him all the credit for lifting our side.
Carlisle will be a gun, need someone to replace Dempster
Maybe marchbank from GWS
 

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I'd say Prestia will end up at Dees if he goes, there'll still be some love left between them
That's a strange one for me. Prestia is an "inside mid" with not a great DE and Melbourne already have Jones, Vince, Viney, Tyson, Brayshaw, Oliver, Petracca, Trengove and Vandenberg, so if there's one area of the field they look absolutely positively set in going forward it's the guts, so it would be a really strange move for mine for them to go out and spend up what would have to be relatively big (in terms of what they'd have to give up in a trade- probably their 2017 first rounder- plus salary cap space), for yet another "inside mid". Surely like us they now need to start looking more at outside class and run? They look to have enough inside talent for two teams going forward.
 

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I know Hawthorn are keen. I haven't heard it's all but a done deal though. In saying that it wouldn't surprise me, Hawks are a seriously well run organization these days.
Free Agency has mean player movement has become more fluid. Unfortunately its mostly to a few top teams. I think the AFL has the system wrong the way it is.
 
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Has anyone else noticed that (during commentary) Derm has a massive soft spot for the kids who he has given specialised forward coaching to, ie the GWS kids among others, he wouldn't dare sink the boots into someone who he has tried to develop...

So why don't we get him down for a dozen sessions with our forwards, advertise it and I could guarantee 100% that the Paddy hate would disappear from him almost instantly.
 

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I know Hawthorn are keen. I haven't heard it's all but a done deal though. In saying that it wouldn't surprise me, Hawks are a seriously well run organization these days.
JOM has had an offer fsr greater than the Suns can offer ( a third higher) Would not say from whom.
Said front runners in Feb were North and Carlton.
Didnt care who knew because there would be more offers.
Hawks not mentioned but that doesnt mean they wont be by years end.
He is Melbourne bound. Where is the question
 

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I haven't seen it been at work but i disagree about lack of talent add Treloar or Dangerfield and we would be expected to play finals.
Personally think we are 1 elite mid short (especially if Freeman works out) plus game experience may take the season to get our team to gel and for players to get used to moving in and out of the midfield rather then the bench but next season we will be very strong and will surprise a few this year.
From our best 22 already Gresham, Webster, Savage, Sinclair, Freeman, Acres are fighting for spots while Montagna wants to go on. How would we get games into 2 or 3 more drafts of young talent thats why a recovered JOM or another established gun player who can contribute from day one is preferable to the draft.
We already have Armo, Steven, Billings, Montagna, Dunstan, Newnes, Roberton, plus Ross and Lonie looks like he is gonna take another step up as well.
Even before drafting or trading extra players if two of Webster, Savage and Weller just consistently preform we would do well.
Personally think Sinclair will take a step up by the end of the season.
You really need at least 5 or 6 very high grade mids and a few extra of a good standard these days. I think we have Jack and Armo as the bench mark then it's a pretty big gap. If Ross and Newnes playing like they did on Sunday regularly that's two more and if Gresham can play like he did that's one more in a year or two. Dunstan is probably good now but has potential to be very high grade. Montagna seems like he's going to play as a defender but I assume he will be expected to have a few on ball rotations to rest others.
 

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If GC lose prestia to Melbourne and JO'M to Hawks, they would end up with an awful lot of top picks. Given that I think that they would be willing to lay overs for an established player.

If we did want to get more draft picks this year, that would be the way to do it IMO.
 

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JOM has had an offer fsr greater than the Suns can offer ( a third higher) Would not say from whom.
Said front runners in Feb were North and Carlton.
Didnt care who knew because there would be more offers.
Hawks not mentioned but that doesnt mean they wont be by years end.
He is Melbourne bound. Where is the question
From what i understand not even GC are sure if they want him such is the seriousness of his knee issues
 

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From what i understand not even GC are sure if they want him such is the seriousness of his knee issues
Yes indeed, He is obviously a gun when fit, but I think it was Rors in his professional capacity that raised the spectre of him never getting over the patella problem.

I would be vary wary.

Of course if we don't take him and he comes good, we will all be hindsight kings.
 

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Preaching to the choir here, but when you look at our midfielders under 25, it's clear we need some extra class;

Inside: Curren, Ross, Dunstan, Saunders*.

Outside: Templeton, O'Kearney*.

Hybrid: Newnes, Acres, Sinclair, Freeman, Billings, McKenzie, Gresham.

Part Time
: Roberton, Weller, Webster, Murdoch, Lonie, White, Rice.

We definitely need some outside run. Absolute priority.
 
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Yes indeed, He is obviously a gun when fit, but I think it was Rors in his professional capacity that raised the spectre of him never getting over the patella problem.

I would be vary wary.

Of course if we don't take him and he comes good, we will all be hindsight kings.
Nobody would pay what's required right now given his injury. Clubs will have a look at how he returns first half of year before really ramping up any recruitment drive.
 
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That's a strange one for me. Prestia is an "inside mid" with not a great DE and Melbourne already have Jones, Vince, Viney, Tyson, Brayshaw, Oliver, Petracca, Trengove and Vandenberg, so if there's one area of the field they look absolutely positively set in going forward it's the guts, so it would be a really strange move for mine for them to go out and spend up what would have to be relatively big (in terms of what they'd have to give up in a trade- probably their 2017 first rounder- plus salary cap space), for yet another "inside mid". Surely like us they now need to start looking more at outside class and run? They look to have enough inside talent for two teams going forward.
If Prestia isn't already a star he will be soon. Clubs won't knock back a player who will get it 30 times a game, whether they're inside, outside or both.
 

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Preaching to the choir here, but when you look at our midfielders under 25, it's clear we need some extra class;

Inside: Curren, Ross, Dunstan, Saunders*.

Outside: Templeton, O'Kearney*.

Hybrid: Newnes, Montagna, Acres, Sinclair, Freeman, Billings, McKenzie, Gresham.

Part Time
: Roberton, Weller, Webster, Murdoch, Lonie, White, Rice.
Wow how did Montagna wind back the clock.
 
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If O'Meara's knee comes up ok this year and he decides to come to Melbourne I think we are a huge shot at getting him. There's been dialogue there for a long time now. I think people are forgetting what an amazing first couple of years he had. If he gets back to full fitness he's a superstar in the making.
I'd say Prestia will end up at Dees if he goes, there'll still be some love left between them.
Whitfield is an interesting one. And Hurley will/is listening to other clubs in case he decides to test the rules with delisting himself. We are one of them.
Any chance you can elaborate MG? To me, this is the guy you open the chequebook for.
 

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Yes indeed, He is obviously a gun when fit, but I think it was Rors in his professional capacity that raised the spectre of him never getting over the patella problem.

I would be vary wary.

Of course if we don't take him and he comes good, we will all be hindsight kings.
I've seen basketballers come back from patella tendon ruptures really well & continue to have good solid careers without much issue.

Problem with Aussie Rules footy is that youre forever being tackled & that area of the knee is always being smashed into the turf. There really isnt much science behind why I am so wary.

To be honest, if he was coming back from an ACL, I'd have absolutely no worries at all because it's an internal structure, whereas the patella tendon is very superficial & impact forces on the tendon, the insertion to the tibial tuberosity & the knee cap could continuously cause havoc to the area......



Just on that, Paul Ahern anyone?
 
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Has anyone else noticed that (during commentary) Derm has a massive soft spot for the kids who he has given specialised forward coaching to, ie the GWS kids among others, he wouldn't dare sink the boots into someone who he has tried to develop...

So why don't we get him down for a dozen sessions with our forwards, advertise it and I could guarantee 100% that the Paddy hate would disappear from him almost instantly.
that's how the mafia works.
 
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