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No need for personal attacks Captain. 14th if adjusted by # of games played, so technically correct. However, I think JJ's work rate is far higher than a McGovern or a Tex, or they would have been the ones kicking the goals. Players kicked with confidence to that spot knowing full well that JJ would get there before anyone else.
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Can we get involved in the Deledio trade to Geelong

Where cats would get Lids

We get Caddy

And Richmond get 2nd rounder and Dear? Or something where we could come to the party
Won't happen, no use discussing it.

More likely to get Lids than Caddy
 

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If we don't end up trading away 13, for those that follow this draft we'll would a swap of 13 for Gold Coasts 22 & 24 be a good move?

Bicks Jeffcrowe ??
IMO we keep 13 to draft Venables, will turn into a star in our environment

If he's not there, I'm not sure. Maybe doing that deal is a good idea
 

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IMO we keep 13 to draft Venables, will turn into a star in our environment

If he's not there, I'm not sure. Maybe doing that deal is a good idea
I think it will depend on exactly who the Club has targeted with their first pick.

If it is another Doedee kind of player expected to go in the 30s or higher with their first pick, then yes they should do the deal.
 

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Carlton have most if not all the power in this. They own Gibbs for another 3 years. Contract. Simples.
Look in this day and age of front loaded and rear loaded contracts I'd have a lot of sympathy for Carlton if Gibbs has been on a front loaded contract for the first two of the five years, and when the contract drops he wants out. But is that the case? I don't think so...
On the other hand, if he wants to move for family reasons and they haven't been stiffed on the contract then it'll happen. Why would you keep someone at a club for 3 years against their will to prove a point? People's circumstances change. What if Bryce moves to Adelaide? Turns up to play for Carlton every week. Fulfils his contractual obligations.
It's in no-one's best interests. You are correct, if Carlton want to hold Gibbs to his contract for the next three years they can. But that's a lose-lose-lose scenario. Why on earth would anyone do that?
How do you think Bryce would be feeling about SOS and his refusal to talk to the Crows (....if that's even true which I doubt)?
Do you think that he'd be feeling supported? Do you think it could possibly sour his relationship with the club?
The messaging that he would be happy to stay and play at Carlton, and it's only my opinion, is because few players want to tip a bucket on their club on the way out. (Almost) everyone wants to leave on good terms.
If Carlton hang onto him for another 3 years good luck to them. He may not even play them out, and I'm serious on that. Play a year commuting from Adelaide and then retire.
A fair trade will get done, but if not...the Crows are the least damaged. They can move onto other trade targets. Or just move on.
Carlton is stuck with someone who doesn't want to be there. That's a loss for their club, and the player.
Half the trades done every year are for contracted players. The GWS players Carlton are looking to trade in, are they all out of contract?
 

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If we don't end up trading away 13, for those that follow this draft we'll would a swap of 13 for Gold Coasts 22 & 24 be a good move?

Bicks Jeffcrowe ??
It's a good year to do it EC as the 2nd round is v strong and the early part of draft is even

Depends on our specific target(s) at pick 13 . It's kind of just on the edge of getting a 'slider' from top 10 like a Taranto but prob just out of range for those types

In 20s there may be the young SA boy Hayward who has come on leaps and bounds in last 2 months and guys like Powell pepper , Galluci , Drew who are good potential midfielders should be there . Then there is Florent , Witherden , Venables , Berry. One of those could slide through despite being 1st round chances

I'd do it
 

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Look in this day and age of front loaded and rear loaded contracts I'd have a lot of sympathy for Carlton if Gibbs has been on a front loaded contract for the first two of the five years, and when the contract drops he wants out. But is that the case? I don't think so...
On the other hand, if he wants to move for family reasons and they haven't been stiffed on the contract then it'll happen. Why would you keep someone at a club for 3 years against their will to prove a point? People's circumstances change. What if Bryce moves to Adelaide? Turns up to play for Carlton every week. Fulfils his contractual obligations.
It's in no-one's best interests. You are correct, if Carlton want to hold Gibbs to his contract for the next three years they can. But that's a lose-lose-lose scenario. Why on earth would anyone do that?
How do you think Bryce would be feeling about SOS and his refusal to talk to the Crows (....if that's even true which I doubt)?
Do you think that he'd be feeling supported? Do you think it could possibly sour his relationship with the club?
The messaging that he would be happy to stay and play at Carlton, and it's only my opinion, is because few players want to tip a bucket on their club on the way out. (Almost) everyone wants to leave on good terms.
If Carlton hang onto him for another 3 years good luck to them. He may not even play them out, and I'm serious on that. Play a year commuting from Adelaide and then retire.
A fair trade will get done, but if not...the Crows are the least damaged. They can move onto other trade targets. Or just move on.
Carlton is stuck with someone who doesn't want to be there. That's a loss for their club, and the player.
Half the trades done every year are for contracted players. The GWS players Carlton are looking to trade in, are they all out of contract?
Don't hold your breath waiting for a response Tinman.
 

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If we don't end up trading away 13, for those that follow this draft we'll would a swap of 13 for Gold Coasts 22 & 24 be a good move?

Bicks Jeffcrowe ??
In this draft every possibility that could land 2 very good midfield prospects and leave our late picks for a someone like SA Midfielder Jackson Lee and a promising SA tall [CHB/CHF] like Mitchell Carter or a Ruckman SA Peter Ladhams? Though I doubt the lad I like a lot Jarrod Berry would fall that low..maybe..
 

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Totally agree that he has pace and could be great, but I feel like we are stocked on the half back line and a list profile obviously needs mids. I don't see Hampton being a full time mid.

All a moot point anyway obviously. I liked the Hampton trade last year, always easier in retrospect.
Hampton is a mid. He only played back at GWS because they have about 54 star midfielders in their squad. Get a pre-season into him and he will be a gun. The lad can play.
 
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