Mega Thread 2016 Trade/Free Agency Discussion

Status
Not open for further replies.

Mr Magic

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Mar 1, 2010
Posts
16,001
Likes
7,606
AFL Club
Richmond
I'm still of the opinion we should keep pick 4-5, been a while since we've had access to top range talent would be nice to nail a pick there. If we could get 11+17 or something that would be great but with this year looking like the first round being pretty even I'm not sure we will find many clubs happy with that.

Assuming Naish is increasingly looking like being a first rounder next year it makes sense for us to get rid of next years first anyway, and I think most of us would expect a much better showing next year than what we saw this year, which makes it even more appealing. We could end up giving them pick 10-12 next year for Prestia, which we would have had to give up for Naish anyway.

A Naish type will not be worth a first rounder unless a gun which is rare and very unlikely!!
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Mr Magic

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Mar 1, 2010
Posts
16,001
Likes
7,606
AFL Club
Richmond
Please don't give them anymore.
They have already had 16 top 10 picks in the last 5 years + Cameron/Treloar/Sheil outside of the draft.
We've had 1 in that time, so we should probably keep it.

Apart from trading it for pick 1 via Essendon for Will Brodie in a three/4/5way its a no I think
 

WATiger86

Premiership Player
Joined
Apr 10, 2012
Posts
3,492
Likes
11,572
Location
Perth
AFL Club
Richmond
Kane Cornes, thankyou, why would you get Prestia when we are not near a premiership window!!!!


Bingo, and Kingy would not trade RFC's first pick for Prestia.

Exactly right, more insanity coming from RFC!!!
I'll spew if we trade our first even for a somewhat proven mid like Prestia.
 

Mr Magic

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Mar 1, 2010
Posts
16,001
Likes
7,606
AFL Club
Richmond
Prestia has twice finished top 3 in Gold coasts best and fairest. Your chance of getting a player as good as him is historically very low even with a pick 5 or 6. Hes an elite player.

Actually he is not elite.

GC is a shit list with not many gun mids playing many games to take votes off him!!!

BS statistics there
 

Mr Magic

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Mar 1, 2010
Posts
16,001
Likes
7,606
AFL Club
Richmond
I'll spew if we trade our first even for a somewhat proven mid like Prestia.

I would spew if we even down trade our first for a later pick as part of a trade.

Prestia would be lucky to get pick 16 in this draft as a stand alone given he will be 24 next year.

The players we have chased apart from Treloar have mainly been mediocre!!
 

Tigersman

Premiership Player
Joined
Nov 10, 2007
Posts
3,619
Likes
2,413
Location
Punt rd
AFL Club
Richmond
I'll spew if we trade our first even for a somewhat proven mid like Prestia.
So you keep the first round pick, recruit a kid and hope he can become an A grade talent that plays 8-10 years for us?

Prestia gives us that without the risk of picking the wrong kid.

I'd like us to trade in a suitable Pick/player combo to satisfy GC but if it comes to it, I'll be happy to take the proven young talent
 

Mr Magic

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Mar 1, 2010
Posts
16,001
Likes
7,606
AFL Club
Richmond
So you keep the first round pick, recruit a kid and hope he can become an A grade talent that plays 8-10 years for us?

Prestia gives us that without the risk of picking the wrong kid.

I'd like us to trade in a suitable Pick/player combo to satisfy GC but if it comes to it, I'll be happy to take the proven young talent

Prestia give us nothing. Another Chaplin, Grigg, Houli that wastes our ******* time!!!!


Rance needs to get his head out of his arse and stop overrating the list and wake up.

If Rance wants to win premierships go to GWS!!!


Thompson, Cornes and plenty others still think obviously there must be a lot of dickheads still overrating the list.


Some need to have a cold shower and realise they are not that ******* good!!!! Why would they be they have achieved **** all!!!
 

Morro

Premium Platinum
Joined
Mar 27, 2008
Posts
9,864
Likes
18,300
Location
Gold Coast
AFL Club
Richmond
I would spew if we even down trade our first for a later pick as part of a trade.

Prestia would be lucky to get pick 16 in this draft as a stand alone given he will be 24 next year.

The players we have chased apart from Treloar have mainly been mediocre!!
Pick 16 lol

You know nothing John snow
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

WATiger86

Premiership Player
Joined
Apr 10, 2012
Posts
3,492
Likes
11,572
Location
Perth
AFL Club
Richmond
So you keep the first round pick, recruit a kid and hope he can become an A grade talent that plays 8-10 years for us?

Prestia gives us that without the risk of picking the wrong kid.

I'd like us to trade in a suitable Pick/player combo to satisfy GC but if it comes to it, I'll be happy to take the proven young talent
We shouldn't be trading out a top 5 pick given the year we've had and the holes on our list. Prestia is quality but surely if he nominates us we can satisfy them with a player and a swap of later picks

Trading out this years second is looking dumber by the day - luckily we have some players who should be able to get us back into the second round
 

Mr Magic

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Mar 1, 2010
Posts
16,001
Likes
7,606
AFL Club
Richmond
We shouldn't be trading out a top 5 pick given the year we've had and the holes on our list. Prestia is quality but surely if he nominates us we can satisfy them with a player and a swap of later picks

Trading out this years second is looking dumber by the day - luckily we have some players who should be able to get us back into the second round


The probable likelihood is Richmond's next grand final will be after Prestia retires. We hope it isn't but history suggests thats most likely.

People band on about Thompson as coach and he went through our list compared to Geelong and even laughed with Robbo comparing Edwards to Chapman. When are people going to wake up the cattle is not there. The team is not that crash hot!!!!! Thats why we are down near the bottom. GWS and others are not walk overs anymore as are others and Melbourne are not tanking anymore like others. When other teams try we are not that competitive!!!

Thats a fact the likes of Rance need to get their head around. Hartley won't care as he knows he will be pissed off, or the board will be within 2 years minimum if not weeks away!!
 

Tigerbob

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
May 9, 2001
Posts
7,961
Likes
15,215
Location
Melbourne, Victoria
AFL Club
Richmond
Other Teams
Storm, Bushies
This Prestia talk has panic from the club all over it...

Talking up a "big name" player coming to ease the pressure.

Not thinking the general fan is smart enough to work out why it wouldn't be a great deal and risks associated.

Panic. Panic. Panic.
 
Joined
Dec 15, 2014
Posts
1,441
Likes
2,675
AFL Club
Richmond
So you keep the first round pick, recruit a kid and hope he can become an A grade talent that plays 8-10 years for us?

Prestia gives us that without the risk of picking the wrong kid.

I'd like us to trade in a suitable Pick/player combo to satisfy GC but if it comes to it, I'll be happy to take the proven young talent
I would like to say the pick we will have, 4-6, is pretty certain to be Prestia level or more so your argument is flawed....BUT the Reece Conca pick makes your point unfortunately well founded.
 

Mr Magic

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Mar 1, 2010
Posts
16,001
Likes
7,606
AFL Club
Richmond
I would like to say the pick we will have, 4-6, is pretty certain to be Prestia level or more so your argument is flawed....BUT the Reece Conca pick makes your point unfortunately well founded.

But FJ and Blair a looking to be moved on by people that know what they are doing with a track record!!!


How many premiership players of significance are at the RFC club that are used to success and actual initiate success as leaders on the field?

Cornes talked up Hardwick but even he said getting Prestia was madness!!!! It was madness no matter how you rate him because the lists needs to be built not be added to by a patchwork add-on Prestia!!!
 

WATiger86

Premiership Player
Joined
Apr 10, 2012
Posts
3,492
Likes
11,572
Location
Perth
AFL Club
Richmond
The probable likelihood is Richmond's next grand final will be after Prestia retires. We hope it isn't but history suggests thats most likely.

People band on about Thompson as coach and he went through our list compared to Geelong and even laughed with Robbo comparing Edwards to Chapman. When are people going to wake up the cattle is not there. The team is not that crash hot!!!!! Thats why we are down near the bottom. GWS and others are not walk overs anymore as are others and Melbourne are not tanking anymore like others. When other teams try we are not that competitive!!!

Thats a fact the likes of Rance need to get their head around. Hartley won't care as he knows he will be pissed off, or the board will be within 2 years minimum if not weeks away!!
Why are you even talking premierships? We have bigger issues to worry about than premierships, like who plays CHB/FB next year if rance or Astbury goes down or why is our ruck if hammer gets injured.

Point being there are greater needs than adding a ready made mid by trading out a top 5 pick
 

Mr Magic

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Mar 1, 2010
Posts
16,001
Likes
7,606
AFL Club
Richmond
This Prestia talk has panic from the club all over it...

Talking up a "big name" player coming to ease the pressure.

Not thinking the general fan is smart enough to work out why it wouldn't be a great deal and risks associated.

Panic. Panic. Panic.

Prestia is not even a big name like Armitage, like Yarran. Its just hype built up over lessor types that other clubs will not reach on other than RFC.

RFC is the land of BS dreams!!!! We are only one or 2 picks away, we just need a finisher like Yarran, we just need a small forward, lad da de, de da!!!!!


What bullshit!!!!!
 

Mr Magic

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Mar 1, 2010
Posts
16,001
Likes
7,606
AFL Club
Richmond
Why are you even talking premierships? We have bigger issues to worry about than premierships, like who plays CHB/FB next year if rance or Astbury goes down or why is our ruck if hammer gets injured.

Point being there are greater needs than adding a ready made mid by trading out a top 5 pick


We are only playing to win premierships!!!!


The only reason RFC crosses the white line is on a path to win a premiership!!!!


The supporters said Dan Richardson is a ********!!! He might be playing RFC to make finals but the RFC supporters for 30+ years are not waiting for anything other than a premiership!!!


I don't care if this group smokes bongs for the next 6 years if we win a premiership in 2024!!!


All that matters is premierships, nothing else. Not your memories, not your mates, not your fun times. If you want to play social football piss off to the local leagues or country leagues.

When your playing at RFC you are their to win premierships. And if you don't like trade talk or whatever like Reiwoldt complaining about, piss off to another club if you can't stand the heat in the kitchen. I only want players that stand up in finals period!!!

The only player that cuts the mustard still around the traps after footy is KB!!! Not Richo who won no premiership, KB!!!


KB, Brian Wood, Roach and the others who won the last premiership and the ones before, they are the champions of this footy club!!!!
 

Sir_Loin

Premium Platinum
Joined
Oct 20, 2015
Posts
17,575
Likes
39,712
AFL Club
Richmond
We are only playing to win premierships!!!!


The only reason RFC crosses the white line is on a path to win a premiership!!!!


The supporters said Dan Richardson is a ********!!! He might be playing RFC to make finals but the RFC supporters for 30+ years are not waiting for anything other than a premiership!!!


I don't care if this group smokes bongs for the next 6 years if we win a premiership in 2024!!!


All that matters is premierships, nothing else. Not your memories, not your mates, not your fun times. If you want to play social football piss off to the local leagues or country leagues.

When your playing at RFC you are their to win premierships. And if you don't like trade talk or whatever like Reiwoldt complaining about, piss off to another club if you can't stand the heat in the kitchen. I only want players that stand up in finals period!!!

The only player that cuts the mustard still around the traps after footy is KB!!! Not Richo who won no premiership, KB!!!


KB, Brian Wood, Roach and the others who won the last premiership and the ones before, they are the champions of this footy club!!!!
Good to see you've found the !!!! on the keyboard FFS
 

Mr Magic

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Mar 1, 2010
Posts
16,001
Likes
7,606
AFL Club
Richmond
Good to see you've found the !!!! on the keyboard FFS

I think KB needs, to go to Jack Reiwoldt and Rance and maybe others and tell them they have achieved **** all in their careers so far.

Its team football and this RFC team and list has achieved nothing!!!

Jack Reiwoldt is from tassie. Maybe Royce Hart needs to give Jack a call and say its all very well to take about hysteria but at the end of the day, RFC has not won a premiership for 30+ years and thats all that matters for many!!
 

Sir_Loin

Premium Platinum
Joined
Oct 20, 2015
Posts
17,575
Likes
39,712
AFL Club
Richmond
I think KB needs, to go to Jack Reiwoldt and Rance and maybe others and tell them they have achieved **** all in their careers so far.

Its team football and this RFC team and list has achieved nothing!!!

Jack Reiwoldt is from tassie. Maybe Royce Hart needs to give Jack a call and say its all very well to take about hysteria but at the end of the day, RFC has not won a premiership for 30+ years and thats all that matters for many!!
Don't ever change!!!
 

Mr Magic

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Mar 1, 2010
Posts
16,001
Likes
7,606
AFL Club
Richmond
You know a surefire way to improve an overrated list? A proven young A grade midfielder, like say, Dion Prestia.

I actually do not regard Prestia as a proven A-grade midfielder.

Who has Prestia played on and beat??

Prestia might be a good midfielder but he is unproven. How many times has Prestia been tagged?

What has Prestia done seriously???

How is Prestia going to be the difference to win a premiership??
 

Accepted 04

Club Legend
Joined
Dec 10, 2007
Posts
1,007
Likes
684
Location
At The Guns Show
AFL Club
Richmond
Other Teams
76ers AC Milan Storm
I actually do not regard Prestia as a proven A-grade midfielder.

Who has Prestia played on and beat??

Prestia might be a good midfielder but he is unproven. How many times has Prestia been tagged?

What has Prestia done seriously???

How is Prestia going to be the difference to win a premiership??
Who would you have the club draft at Pick 5/6 which you believe is a better option than Prestia?
I think we could add a few players this offseason like Steele, Stewart, Lamb, Prestia. Which gives us some guys with actual talent and a little maturity.
Don't panic so much


Sent from my iPhone
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom