List Mgmt. 2016 Trade Thread

[Devastating Boris]

Yeah they say this to sound supportive but they'll only assist if they're grossly overcompensated.

Is always the case yeah?

 

[Devastating Boris]

A grain of salt as in 10,000,000,000kg of salt.

 

[Theo X]

Is always the case yeah?

They pretty supportively shipped Milkshake off to us as quickly as they could when we somehow offered them pick 25

 

[mrmonkey]

Jeez i'll be pissed if we give up our 2nd rounder or a player like Salem for a 27yo B grader having already traded our first. Taylor hasn't put a foot wrong with drafting so far, give him a decent pick in a deep draft please.

I'm going by an article written in the hun about 3 weeks ago and it says essendon would demand a first round pick which we definitely don't have. He's certainly not worth that if we had that. What we do have is second round but that's it, I wouldn't be trading any young player ie salem for someone that's 27 next year. I wouldn't mind losing pick 27 if the club somehow managed to trade bavk in a first round pick. But having no picks in the first 2 rounds is dubious.

 

[schmuttt]

We won't lose Salem if we only get Hibberd.

However, if Hurley is involved I could see something like this:

2016 2nd + 2017 1st + Salem
for
Hurley/Hibberd

The Essendon approaching Salem rumor would also make sense if we were pushing super hard for Hurley. Essendon would know we aren't going to give him up just for Hibberd.

Might be going against the grain, but I'd hate to see us have three ex-essendon players take up spots in our backline in 2017. Sort of thing can fracture a playing group have a new coach bring his pets over to his new club. You'd imagine Hibberd and Hurley would be asking top dollar as well. Yeah it'd be great to have Hurley but I just can't take that the three best answers to our backline troubles all happen to be players that Goodwin has coached. Smacks of nepotism in a way.

I've seen this stuff before with Mick and Daisy, Ross and Zac, even our own Mark Neeld and Iron Hands. I'm skeptical to say the least.

I hate Essendon the most of any club, but if we were to have both Hurley and Hibberd walk into our defence it'd be a huge upgrade (Even if Hurley is a replacement for TMac). Essendons defence in 2012-2014 was a superb back 6, no qualms at all if we stole half of it.

 

[Down the throat]

Might be going against the grain, but I'd hate to see us have three ex-essendon players take up spots in our backline in 2017.

We could name Melkshakes on the wing, if that will make you more comfortable

 

[LeverPuller]

I'm going by an article written in the hun about 3 weeks ago and it says essendon would demand a first round pick which we definitely don't have. He's certainly not worth that if we had that. What we do have is second round but that's it, I wouldn't be trading any young player ie salem for someone that's 27 next year. I wouldn't mind losing pick 27 if the club somehow managed to trade bavk in a first round pick. But having no picks in the first 2 rounds is dubious.

I don't mind it.

Our best 22 is currently 18th for age in the AFL. We also have Dawes, Grimes, Pedersen, Terlich and MJones on the outer - even if Melksham is a lock we will still be young as anything.

In addition, we also have Oliver, ANB, BenKen, Weiderman and Hulett at Casey, none of whom are that old.

Finally, this year's draft is full of what we don't need - small mid/forward types.

I think go gangbusters. Trade the 2nd out for Hibberd. Potentially trade the 3rd for Griffiths or Campbell. Bring in blokes who can perform a role we lack and use 2017 draft as a top-off if need be. But do not trade 2017 picks.

 

[Theo X]

I think go gangbusters. Trade the 2nd out for Hibberd. Potentially trade the 3rd for Griffiths or Campbell. Bring in blokes who can perform a role we lack.

Sounds like we're aiming to be the next Richmond

 

[freddy mercury]

Gee you blokes would have to give something big to get Hurley.

 

[Headless]

Gee you blokes would have to give something big to get Hurley.

Would you accept Petracca + Brayshaw + Gawn + Oliver + Watts + Hogan + Salem + Viney + Tyson + Stretch + Kent + McDonald?

 

[freddy mercury]

Would you accept Petracca + Brayshaw + Gawn + Oliver + Watts + Hogan + Salem + Viney + Tyson + Stretch + Kent + McDonald?

Nah, Hogan for the Both and I am happy, you are happy.

Salem is no good, Kent, would not know who he was if he popped out of my cornflakes.

 

[Sir Hugh Percy]

Would you accept Petracca + Brayshaw + Gawn + Oliver + Watts + Hogan + Salem + Viney + Tyson + Stretch + Kent + McDonald?

Nah, Dodoro will want picks as well.

 

[KickLongTackleHard]

Gee you blokes would have to give something big to get Hurley.

Jake Spencer is 203cm, he should do then.

 

[Devastating Boris]

Gee you blokes would have to give something big to get Hurley.

I honestly don't reckon we will. I have said before that I think he will stay but it all comes down to how angry the players are at the club. I have heard that Hibberd is furious and was never a chance at returning, but nothing on Hurley. The really interesting one is Jobe. This saga still has a little way to go yet. By the way, I am not saying we should go after Jobe, just that he is the most low key of them all.

 

[Ablett2Garland]

That's the name I was going to mention when you asked the question above. Am sure he'll be on the radar for a few teams - kinda surprised he didn't get taken by anyone last year.

Kinda plays the Rory Lobb role - around 3/4 of his game time in the forward line and 1/4 in the ruck.

Would throw a late pick at him for sure.

Otherwise the only other WAFL player who could play a similar role I can think of is Mason Shaw (ex Port player) - but he's not as tall and doesn't ruck as often (only averaging 2.5 hitouts per game this year).

Think the eagles nearly drafted him. Would love us to look into him.

 

[Theo X]

Gee you blokes would have to give something big to get Hurley.

Nah we'll have him as a DFA since you injected him with illegal drugs, unbeknown to him. He'd be livid. AFLPA have stated they will support this route of changing clubs.

 

[Headless]

Salem is no good

Introducing Christian Salem:

Kent, would not know who he was if he popped out of my cornflakes.

And introducing Dean Kent:



I hope this helps.

 

[Deemanding]

Think the eagles nearly drafted him. Would love us to look into him.

Yeah definitely. It's pretty annoying that we've got a need for this position though - it's exactly what Mitch Clark would be doing for us if he wasn't perpetually injured (and then depressed).

The fact that Darcy is a mature body and would be ready to go round 1 (should we be interested) is a positive. The only issue I have is that he's 'another forward' - we already have Pedo, Dawes, Hogan, Watts, Hulett and Weideman as KPF, do we need another?

 

[Theo X]

it's exactly what Mitch Clark would be doing for us if he wasn't perpetually injured (and then depressed).

And a campaigner.

 

[saintkildaman]

Sorry for the intrusion, just curious as to what you lot see as Melbourne's needs at this stage of the rebuild?

I know at Saints we have covered pretty much everything just need a classy A grade mid and potentially another 3rd tall in defence.

Looking at your list (whilst I try to watch the Dee's as much as possible, I obviously don't watch every week so don't crucify me) but seems as though the holes in your 22 are pretty easily fill able.

Midfield is mouth watering (scary for us Saints fan), plenty of A grade potential mids there.

The McDonalds look more then capable of holding down KPD posts for the next few years. Smalls/generals look solid both ends of the ground, especially with the inclusion of Hibberd. Also really liked the look of Vandenberg up forward on the weekend.

Would I be right assuming that the main needs would be a 2nd ruck for depth, KPF (or backing Weideman?).

Cheers

 

[Topkent]

Sorry for the intrusion, just curious as to what you lot see as Melbourne's needs at this stage of the rebuild?

I know at Saints we have covered pretty much everything just need a classy A grade mid and potentially another 3rd tall in defence.

Looking at your list (whilst I try to watch the Dee's as much as possible, I obviously don't watch every week so don't crucify me) but seems as though the holes in your 22 are pretty easily fill able.

Midfield is mouth watering (scary for us Saints fan), plenty of A grade potential mids there.

The McDonalds look more then capable of holding down KPD posts for the next few years. Smalls/generals look solid both ends of the ground, especially with the inclusion of Hibberd. Also really liked the look of Vandenberg up forward on the weekend.

Would I be right assuming that the main needs would be a 2nd ruck for depth, KPF (or backing Weideman?).

Cheers

Dont think we need a second ruck, Spencers fine as a back up because Gawn is so dominant but we need a Stanley/Westhoff/Wright/Sinclair etc who can play mostly forward and take some marks then be quite agile around the ruck contests... hard to find
We have to back Weid at this stage, Number 7 draft picking and developing ok

I think what we really need is either internally or externally someone to play the Weller role, and then a mid sized defender who uses it well ( Hibberd ) wouldnt mind one of the saints flexible marking forwards either, Membrey and Bruce are rippers

 

[freddy mercury]

Introducing Christian Salem:





And introducing Dean Kent:



I hope this helps.

Nah.

 

[Demon 16]

I dont care who gets Hibberd and Hurley - just as long as they walk out and the Bombers get nothing

 

[Topkent]

I dont care who gets Hibberd and Hurley - just as long as they walk out and the Bombers get nothing

Id be majorly pissed off if they ended up at Sydney or Geelong

 

[Sando22]

Not sure I like the idea of Salem out the door.
Essendon must think we're right into Hurley if they are even entertaining talking to Salem as he most certainly won't be involved in the Hibberd deal.