Play Nice 2016 US Presidential Election Part 3 - Trump d Clinton

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No sure anyone should be happy as there seems to be a big job ahead healing and uniting a very divided country.
Hard road ahead.
The positive out of all this is that class politics is back, and its intrinsically tied to immigration and free trade agreements.

Go back to Australia's history when we had a very strong Communist party, and you'd see that immigration was always a hot topic, as was jobs and protecting those jobs from cheap imports. We have a situation in Australia where both major parties are in favour of epic levels of migration to the tune of 250,000 or so per year mostly from China and India, and use 10,000 odd refugees as a way to deflect attention away from that.

There's nothing wrong with having these discussions, but the party system avoids it because large corporates are heavily invested in destroying union membership, lowering wages and gaining constant sources of cheap labour. FTA hurt even more than immigration, and again only serve the absolute wealthiest people.

This is a win for economic regulation and an acknowledgement that the free market has not been working for the average person.
 

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The more you look at it the more Clinton looks like she's stuffed in all of Michigan Pennsylvania and Wisconsin

These two people ran two of the worst campaigns in political history, it'd look like Clinton's run a worse one despite greater resources

Should've let Bernie get it eh?
I prefer trump to clinton but the dems should really take back the white house in 2020, especially if Castro or M. Obama run (assuming trump wins today). I believe both parties need to reform... who would have thought the dems would reform first.
 

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If Trump wins can we get a TRUMP badge? Pretty please?
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Bingo. Reporters who actually spent time in the rustbelt were calling it months ago.
Like him or loathe him, Michael Moore (as much as he is hated by the right) has been predicting this since January. He was spot on.

The electorate were desperate for a protest vote and only one candidate provided that.
For all the reasons I dislike Michael Moore, the reality is he's a kid from Flint who saw first hand what neoliberal capitalism can do to a community.

I wonder how those BLM protesters who kept attacking Sanders for being an old white man and interrupting his rallies feel?
 
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I only think we'll see a melt if Trump loses.

Nobody feels particularly attached to a Clinton presidency, nobody is really invested in her.

Probably a huge factor to why she is looking like being up shit creek at the moment.

Fox just called Ohio for Trump BTW. Last 12 elections Ohio have elected the president.
That is an accurate assessment.
 

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I prefer trump to clinton but the dems should really take back the white house in 2020, especially if Castro or M. Obama run (assuming trump wins today). I believe both parties need to reform... who would have thought the dems would reform first.
We say that but I reckon Trump's developed enough of an irrational following that he could win reelection no matter how bad things get
 

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The more you look at it the more Clinton looks like she's stuffed in all of Michigan Pennsylvania and Wisconsin

These two people ran two of the worst campaigns in political history, it'd look like Clinton's run a worse one despite greater resources

Should've let Bernie get it eh?
How can you possibly call Trump's campaign a bad one?

Up against pretty much ALL the media and even his own party.
NO support from wall street.
Spent a fraction of his opponents.
Was supposed to be crushed.
 
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