Play Nice 2016 US Presidential Election Part 3 - Trump d Clinton

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Trump wants iPhones to be built in the US. That's one way of making Samsung dominate the market. iPhones will cost $2k versus their current cost if built in the US. The inequality will get bigger. Delicious irony.
not sure how to conflate inequality with what you're saying. overall the sales might go down, but i doubt it would make a dent in the line of people who camp overnight to pick one up. it's a bit of a captive market and the demand would probably still be significant at that price. plenty of people already wave their iphones around like dicks before paying status-symbol prices.
 

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agree

the only positive is he has the capability of breaking the corrupt establishment of US politics. The only question is at what price.
Party politics is a corruption of Democracy. It just depends to what degree. I see North Korea, China & Russia are corrupt one party states.
I often wonder how much Rumsfeld made out of the invasion of Iraq, given his close business interests. So maybe its about levels of corruption.
I see a distinct difference between a Rumsfeld & the neocons, & the Clintons use of the system.
 
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Demagogue seems to be one of the "it words" at the moment. Thought I'd do a bit research... Man... Trump really nails it. I've always wondered how these ridiculous leaders made it the top... now I've seen it happen right before my eyes. Hopefully he changes his ways.
 

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As for being a lefty, it's a mistake to assume anyone who doesn't back Trump is leftist. I'd rather believe in a small, minimal-interventionist benevolent dictatorship.
that is a fair description of Singapore.

Have you been there? I mean the streets are clean and the trains run on time but its certainly not my idea of a desirable State.

Political discourse is frowned upon, speech is policed, and it is extremely stratified whereby most of the middle class have a live-in Philipino housekeeper and all the blue collar jobs are performed by temporary 3rd world immigrants. Car Registration cost circa $100k.
 

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TBH that alone accounts for the bulk of the reason Trump won.

And of course the record low democratic turnout in protest at the ludicrous candidate selection process that was patently undemocratic - the Democratic party needs urgent reform and to remove itself from Clinton / "pay me to speak" influence to get back to it's roots as a working class party.

The blue wall crumbled far too easily for people to put the Trump victory down to mere culture wars and fear-mongering.
The Democrats should be doing some serious soul searching and asking themselves if their process is right? It is clearly set up to favour the established player with the Superdelegates which gives an unfair advantage before they start. They now have 3 years to dwell on it and get it right before the next election, because Trump will only do 1 term.
 

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not sure how to conflate inequality with what you're saying. overall the sales might go down, but i doubt it would make a dent in the line of people who camp overnight to pick one up. it's a bit of a captive market and the demand would probably still be significant at that price. plenty of people already wave their iphones around like dicks before paying status-symbol prices.
Your name suits you.
You need to think more about wages, price drivers, trade & economics.
$2k phones. Plus much more expensive tvs, electronics, cars, white goods, clothes etc etc. Lets see how people on pensions or $10/ hour jobs do with all that.
 

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On this, the Cracked article on Trump summed this up by comparing him to Tony Stark. He's a brash insulting jackass, but people like that more than a robotic politician who can't give a speech that doesn't sound like it's been assembled from focus group studies.

Alex Jones latest videos show that the honeymoon won't be long for Trump among one section of his supporters, already saying he needs to arrest Clinton otherwise his victory is meaningless.
In Australia Pauline Hanson is capitalising on it. She will also be the only one to continue to do so as the Liberal Party won't, Labor is just going to point and the Liberals and say come on guys you can't seriously want more of that & the Greens built themselves around total political correctness. It will bolster her stock to the point where she will win a Senate seat everywhere except maybe Tassie (that will go to Lambie's party)
 

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It's crazy how to think that 107,330 votes (as of now) cost Hillary PA, Mich, Wisconsin and the election.

That such a vast difference in how the next four years go was decided by such a small margin is amazing.

Bush v Gore was closer (537 votes at time recount stopped), but their positions at the time were closer together than Trump and Hillary's.
 

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that is a fair description of Singapore.

Have you been there? I mean the streets are clean and the trains run on time but its certainly not my idea of a desirable State.

Political discourse is frowned upon, speech is policed, and it is extremely stratified whereby most of the middle class have a live-in Philipino housekeeper and all the blue collar jobs are performed by temporary 3rd world immigrants. Car Registration cost circa $100k.
Easier to do this in a country the size of a postage stamp
 

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It's crazy how to think that 107,330 votes (as of now) cost Hillary PA, Mich, Wisconsin and the election.

That such a vast difference in how the next four years go was decided by such a small margin is amazing.

Bush v Gore was closer (537 votes at time recount stopped), but their positions at the time were closer together than Trump and Hillary's.
It was a far worse day for the world looking back that Bush defeated Gore than it will be that Trump defeated Hillary
 

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In Australia Pauline Hanson is capitalising on it. She will also be the only one to continue to do so as the Liberal Party won't, Labor is just going to point and the Liberals and say come on guys you can't seriously want more of that & the Greens built themselves around total political correctness. It will bolster her stock to the point where she will win a Senate seat everywhere except maybe Tassie (that will go to Lambie's party)
Abbott, Abetz are making Trumpian calls for political elites to listen to people.
Abbott & Abetz hahahahahaha.
Thats a friday funny if Ive ever heard one.:)
 

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Thanks. That's WAPO story is spot on - should be read by everybody here.

Bill was onto it - he devoted most of his speech to the Dem Convention to making the case that Hillary was the real agent of change in this election. I was initially taken aback but then realized that political genius Bill must be trying to make a shift in the focus of the campaign. I suspect he had lost the argument behind the scenes but as usual he was right.

But I don't think it would have made any difference. Obama, elected on a wave of adulation by the Left l*uvvies, (See SRP 2008) has spent his 8 years all but destroying Democratic Party majorities across all the tiers of government - Senate, House, State legislatures and gubernatorial. Unchallenged by the supine media, surrounded by sycophants in his admin, the smugness and conceit was suffocating.
As a result TrumpBeast has been slouching towards the White House since the public sneering he received from O in 2011.
As he is spending his first 100 days methodically destroying every centime of O's legacy, the frankensteins of the Left need to remember they helped create their own monster.
Worst of all, he enters office as probably the most powerful president in US history.
 

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Make the FLOTUS Beautiful Again!

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Sorry but being botoxed and full of plastic doesn't make someone beautiful
 

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A Trump backflip: https://consumerist.com/2016/11/10/...-dubbed-worst-banker-in-u-s-to-head-treasury/
Before victory
Back in Oct. 2013, Trump told Bloomberg View columnist William Cohan that it was “horrible” that Dimon was agreeing to huge multibillion-dollar settlements over Chase’s alleged bad practices.

Trump, who has previously stated that he chooses to litigate disputes rather than settle them, told Bloomberg at the time, “I’m not Jamie Dimon, who pays $13 billion to settle a case and then pays $11 billion to settle a case and who I think is the worst banker in the United States."
After victory
Both CNBC and Reuters claim that JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon is on the transition team’s short list to head the Treasury Department. According to Reuters, the team has actually contacted Dimon to test his interest in the position.
 

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This is looking more and more like a 3rd Bush Presidency.

Trump will have to mount the platform to abuse blacks, women, gays and political correctness to keep his base happy, while Wall st and the defense industry looks after policy.
 
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