Play Nice 2016 US Presidential Election Part 3 - Trump d Clinton

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In here is the bit where he destroyed emails to hide evidence from the court.
Yeah but Hillary's emails

I'm not even mad at the so called hypocrisy from Trump anymore coz he is just so self-centred that he will just say whatever suits him any given day and it's not really in any way deliberate or calculating, it's just him looking after himself instinctively all the time. And that will come out to show when he takes office
 

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Anyway the real question from this ejection isn't who voted for trump because the GOP vote was actually lower than prior years. The question is why 5 or so million people that voted democrat last time didn't bother to show up

Posters here are talking about the idiots voting trump when the real morons are the ones that stayed home and have sentenced the world to 4 years of the most powerful country being run by a buffoon
Two right wing authoritarian parties and no preferencing system with minor parties. People DGAF and who can blame them?
 
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Story as related here is truly scarifying. Ailes is 150 per cent loyal to Trump. The expectation has to be Trump will do whatever is required to finish Kelly given she is responsible for Ailes being sacked.

Turns the stomach. Myself, I developed what grew into a visceral fear when I was watching the Repub primaries. Later when he was stalking Hillary during the 2nd debate I thought Chris Wallace should have pulled him up on it. This is the reason why I didn't make any posts on the 2016 election until it was over.

This is a very dangerous man. For once and probably the only time I am at one with Chief.
Kelly would put him to the sword.
She has the tools to destroy him. If he undermines freedom of the press, as he wants, GOP blood will flow. The media has the power.
 

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Like Abbott, Trump used savage attack puppy tactics in his campaign. His obvious contradictory policy messages, & downright lies gives us no idea what to expect. I find it very difficult to see how he can fulfil his messages to the US people.

We wait, we hope he is at least 10% better at his job than Abbott & now Turnbull & it doesn't affect us too much.
 

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Embracing it completely means that some minority groups then have to stop playing the victim and start working towards a solution, along with accept the truth, not picking and choosing statistics that suit their argument.
The same economic forces that are driving unemployment, death and despair in rural white communities does the same for inner city minority communities. I thought that would be obvious. The only difference between 2016 and 2006 is that now the working class is getting stiffed along with the underclass. If the white working class have been left behind by neoliberalism then the same capitalist forces apply to inner city minority communities. No?
 

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The same economic forces that are driving unemployment, death and despair in rural white communities does the same for inner city minority communities. I thought that would be obvious. The only difference between 2016 and 2006 is that now the working class is getting stiffed along with the underclass. If the white working class have been left behind by neoliberalism then the same capitalist forces apply to inner city minority communities. No?
Trumpian class consciousness can't be separated from outright racism.
 

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So if you're white you can't have it bad?

Most don't but there are some that are genuinely struggling and there's some justification to their belief that others don't give a shit about them or their struggles

Some of those people it seems just helped vote trump in

Anyway the real question from this ejection isn't who voted for trump because the GOP vote was actually lower than prior years. The question is why 5 or so million people that voted democrat last time didn't bother to show up

Posters here are talking about the idiots voting trump when the real morons are the ones that stayed home and have sentenced the world to 4 years of the most powerful country being run by a buffoon
All people have it tough in some way or another

My point was more the fact of posters giving equal weight to the racism experienced by whites, compared to that of minorities.
Acting like calling a white person a cracker is on the same level as calling a black person a n*****. Historically it is not.
 

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Rich people can afford it, poor can't. Gap increases
is a president incompetent because he can't put iphones on the tables of the american poor? there's ~50 million in poverty in america, and the problem is an inability to provide them with the bare necessities such as iphones? i guess this represents a gap of sorts, but there's more pressing issues i would have thought.
the man is clearly a buffoon, but he has to start somewhere if he wants to put more money in americans hands. i'm thinking more of the possible flow-on effects (other than the cost of an iphone) if some of the manufacturing returned to home shores.
 

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The same economic forces that are driving unemployment, death and despair in rural white communities does the same for inner city minority communities. I thought that would be obvious. The only difference between 2016 and 2006 is that now the working class is getting stiffed along with the underclass. If the white working class have been left behind by neoliberalism then the same capitalist forces apply to inner city minority communities. No?
Excuse me but Bush inherited a strong economy from Clinton. Obama got a train wreck from Bush. Repubs & democs both support free trade except in certain industries, parts of agriculture & military equipment suppliers etc.
Also wages have stagnated for 2 decades. Infact right now the US economy is picking up. Unemployment is around 5%, better than most other nations.
Innovation & hi tec industries are key. Lets see what Trump does with that
I hope he gets some proper advice.
 

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