Play Nice 2016 US Presidential Election Part 3 - Trump d Clinton

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Not watching media coverage but if they're getting all angsty over this they should take a long hard look at themselves for the way they've gone balls to the wall on the Clinton emails despite her being cleared while ignoring major Trump scandals.
Ignoring Trump scandals? Please, the bloke couldn't even take a shit without it being headline news on CNN
 

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We need left wing and left leaning parties, like the Democrats are meant to be, appealing to collective interests, not the specific interests of minority identities who often have nothing in common.
That's correct.

I would argue we need specific working class socialist parties, rather than just having a socialist faction within the Democrats or ALP, who are outnumbered by a different group of elite capitalists within their party.
 

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Cultural Marxism does exist.

Unfettered immigration from 3rd world nations, constant warfare and political correctness is bringing the west to her knees. We need a strong leader who does not give a damn about the media and end it all.

Trump is the man for the job, I cannot wait until Europe and Australia go through a similar phase. We must never let the West be overrun by savages from the 3rd world.
Sorry guys, this foul racism is just too much.

Let's not go through this whole thing where a group of people decide that they will push the limits and dare me to ban them.

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Not watching media coverage but if they're getting all angsty over this they should take a long hard look at themselves for the way they've gone balls to the wall on the Clinton emails despite her being cleared while ignoring major Trump scandals.
Lefties and their bizzaro conspiracy theories... You really think the media would just lie to you?
 
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This day is historical and we are part of it. Look at america vote down it's government. Turning the place red and few bullets fired. They should be shown more respect by the rabble on this thread.
Turning it red is not the key indicator as many more red districts have low populations. It is how he out performs 2012 Romney in the main population centres that matters.
 

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Apparently trade unionists in the rust belt voted for Trump to the tune of about 70%.

Much like it was said during the primaries, Sanders and Trump both tapped into a portion of the American electorate that has been ignored: former trade unionists who used to have great jobs and were screwed by the free market.

Sanders would have been their preferred candidate, but why would they vote for Clinton when they have already been screwed by neoliberal economics? Trump might not be ideal, but his talk of bringing manufacturing back to the USA was worth a shot from their point of view.
Bingo. Reporters who actually spent time in the rustbelt were calling it months ago.
Like him or loathe him, Michael Moore (as much as he is hated by the right) has been predicting this since January. He was spot on.

The electorate were desperate for a protest vote and only one candidate provided that.
 

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If Trump wins I don't think he's pulled a Nader. A lot of Johnson's support is from Republicans who hate Trump, I think most if not all of the Bernie or Busters went with Stein who has been a non-factor.
He's pulled votes at about a 2-1 ratio from Clinton & Stein is almost 100% Democrat voters.

Whilst it doesn't seem like much, it's enough to decide a couple of states and that's enough in states like Wisconsin, New Hampshire & Arizona, by my calculations that more than enough to change the result
 

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Not watching media coverage but if they're getting all angsty over this they should take a long hard look at themselves for the way they've gone balls to the wall on the Clinton emails despite her being cleared while ignoring major Trump scandals.
Maybe if Hilary didn't write the emails in the first place...

Cleared or not, it was hardly the best look.
 

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That's correct.

I would argue we need specific working class socialist parties, rather than just having a socialist faction within the Democrats or ALP, who are outnumbered by a different group of elite capitalists within their party.
Yeah but I think you'll fi
Turning it red is not the key indicator as many more red districts have low populations. It is how he out performs 2012 Romney in the main population centres that matters.
Not to me it's not. See you're in red though.
 
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Turning it red is not the key indicator as many more red districts have low populations. It is how he out performs 2012 Romney in the main population centres that matters.
Not exactly. It's a matter of where the turnout is, and who it goes to. It has lowered in major population centres and is slightly better for Trump, but it has massively risen in lower population centres and massively shifted for Trump - ie. the Rust Belt.
 
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