2016 US Presidential Election - Trump vs Clinton? - Part 1

Who will win the election??


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But he won't be disclosing that.... The best you'll get is the self assessment rubbish he's just lodged. The tax return will show how full of shit that submission was.
I am not talking about the FEC Submission, I am talking about his general financials which must accompany the tax return.
 

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I am not talking about the FEC Submission, I am talking about his general financials which must accompany the tax return.
Why are you defending this? If it was Clinton you'd be all over it, like a fly to shit.
Simple truth is, if he has nothing to hide then release them, it's a no brainer. But we most likely can conclude that he indeed does have something to hide
 

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Why are you defending this? If it was Clinton you'd be all over it, like a fly to shit.
Simple truth is, if he has nothing to hide then release them, it's a no brainer. But we most likely can conclude that he indeed does have something to hide
I'm not even defending it at all, I am saying that his tax return wouldn't have the information that you guys seem to want.

You need the financials that accompany the tax return to get his networth. Financials are audited too. I hope he releases his tax returns but he has to be careful in the way he does release them.

I am thinking the thought process behind it without being simplistic which you are being (thinking that he has something to hide because he is not releasing it).

I would say that he will release it eventually and the media outlets will read it, take one part out of context and run the story of it for days and days about how Trump avoids taxes etc.

People will not read his actual tax return because it will be likely 300 pages and will go to news outlets looking for TL:DR therefore any actual truth regarding the tax return will take yonks to catch up.

This is why media outlets want it released because Trump gives them ratings because he is outrageous and on the fringe. People like hearing good or bad about Trump. His name sells... simple.
 

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I didn't say anything about a 'war' on drugs. I was under the impression that that's what been happening for the past 50 years or so. I don't claim to have the answers but clearly prohibiting something (i.e 1920s, ) and creating a lucrative black market that serves to make a fortune for criminals isn't working.
You're right, I did assume you were advocating the failed WOD.

The simple answer is decriminalization and regulation of drugs. Treat drug addiction as a medical condition instead of a criminal act. The black market will be gone over night and drugs become safer because they are regulated. At the same time, educate people to the dangers of drugs.
 

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I'm not even defending it at all, I am saying that his tax return wouldn't have the information that you guys seem to want.

You need the financials that accompany the tax return to get his networth. Financials are audited too. I hope he releases his tax returns but he has to be careful in the way he does release them.

I am thinking the thought process behind it without being simplistic which you are being (thinking that he has something to hide because he is not releasing it).

I would say that he will release it eventually and the media outlets will read it, take one part out of context and run the story of it for days and days about how Trump avoids taxes etc.

People will not read his actual tax return because it will be likely 300 pages and will go to news outlets looking for TL:DR therefore any actual truth regarding the tax return will take yonks to catch up.

This is why media outlets want it released because Trump gives them ratings because he is outrageous and on the fringe. People like hearing good or bad about Trump. His name sells... simple.
For one who says he is not defending him,you just did proceeded to do so....

And I couldn't really care less what is in his tax returns, because like his hands, I'm of the belief that his financial worth,like much of his persona is vastly overstated and would shine poorly on his grandiose.

I've always held to that belief, that if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear and what I see in Trump is a man
who is hiding something

And the last candidate to hold out on these matters was proven to be the crook he says he wasn't ....

So its pretty simple Donald, release those tax returns.
 

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For one who says he is not defending him,you just did proceeded to do so....

And I couldn't really care less what is in his tax returns, because like his hands, I'm of the belief that his financial worth,like much of his persona is vastly highly overstated and would shine poorly on his grandiose.

I've always held to that belief, that if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear and what I see in Trump is a man
who is hiding something

And the last candidate to hold out on these matters was proven to be the crook he says he wasn't ....

So its pretty simple Donald, release those tax returns.
Ok, to put it simply.

You want the financials, the tax return will tell you about his INCOME not his ASSETS.

The financials will come with the tax return.

This argument is unbelievably stupid and circular.
 

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Ok, to put it simply.

You want the financials, the tax return will tell you about his INCOME not his ASSETS.

The financials will come with the tax return.

This argument is unbelievably stupid and circular.
I' want him to release his tax returns. They wont show his actual worth (which I believe is vastly overstated ) but whether like all citizens, he has legally complied with the tax code .

The fact that he wont tells me an many others that he is hiding something, but you go ahead blindly believe he is all above board and beyond reproach like all the other Trump sheep

Is pretty simple to kill off any speculation............just release them
 

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Nixon was the last Republican candidate to refuse handing over any returns in 1968. Fine company, Donald.

Because the practice of releasing your tax returns started with Mr George Romney in 1968.... that is why Nixon didn't release his because it wasn't party practice.

Remember how you said you have to keep your eye on the ball? You clearly didn't.

Infact, Mitt Romney was attacked himself about the standard that his father, George Romney set in 1968.
 
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HIGH ENERGY POLL YOU GOT THERE JOSE.

I love how the morons here were saying - within the last few weeks - that Crooked Hillary would destroy him in a general election. Now that he's winning comfortably (LIKE I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU KINDERGARTEN DROPOUTS), suddenly it changes to "Oh how embarrassing for the God Emperor, he should be winning by more".

Y'all are disgraceful.

There's some high energy statistics within.
Crooked Hillary is ahead by 14 points among women (50-36 percent). Yet Trump leads by a larger 22 points among men (55-33 percent).
Crooked Hillary only receiving 33% of the male vote :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: Can't wait for the interview questions like "Why do you have a male problem, Crooked Hillary?" She's a disgusting sexist and it's fun to watch her get punished for it. Trump is doing better than Romney in every single demographic, including blacks, latinos, and whites.

It's a shame for the Democrats that they screwed over Bernie to hand over the nomination to Crooked Hillary... Bernie actually might have had a chance against Trump, but Trump is going to turn nearly every state red if he continues his momentum.

Who is more corrupt? By a 49-37 percent margin, voters give that dubious distinction to Clinton.
CROOKED HILLARY.

 

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Because the practice of releasing your tax returns started with Mr George Romney in 1968.... that is why Nixon didn't release his because it wasn't party practice.

Remember how you said you have to keep your eye on the ball? You clearly didn't.

Infact, Mitt Romney was attacked himself about the standard that his father, George Romney set in 1968.
Um, my post was a criticism of Trump, not Nixon.

Talk about missing the point lol.
 
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