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yabsy said:
I reckon what's slightly putting Fed off bothering to play is, even if he wins both tournaments he still has to rely on Rafa to bomb out early in Paris or London to still have chance at it.

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Yeah he'd probably need him to have say a SF exit in both tournaments ? or a 3rd Round in Paris and Finalist in the WTF or something.
 

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HODGEYROAD said:
Oh ok, he will be fresh and likely win the End of season Tour finals but Nadal is now confirmed to end the year as No1.
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Fed is 36. He knows that he is in bonus territory and he knows well he crawled across the line today.

I'm sure he would love to have played Paris and given Nadal a real push for Number 1 but he knows perfectly well that the juice inhis legs is a depleting commodity.

My opinion is he is already more or less totally focussed on melbourne and a possible 20th slam and Wimbledon for a 9th and 20th if Melbourne doesn't fly. After that he will be 37 and surely he knows it is late late Autumn for him. Even the year End Championships are a means to an end for him.

Already it is all about Melbourne and Wimbledon beyond that.
 
I wish the men's season would finish already. There a couple of tournaments that should really just say goodbye. I really don't know why there has to be a Master 1000 at the end of the season, the players have had it and need break.
 
JamisonRun40 said:
I wish the men's season would finish already. There a couple of tournaments that should really just say goodbye. I really don't know why there has to be a Master 1000 at the end of the season, the players have had it and need break.
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I fully agree.

Paris indoors is like an unwanted child. Paris already has a Grand Slam so the city is already there as a centrepiece on the circuit and in early November there simply isn't the appetite for another big event.

Masters 1,000 events ought to be big attractive events in their own right ( think Miami, Indian Wells, Cincy, Rome, Monte Carlo ) which have built in drawing power for the top stars. Instead Paris in an afterthought.

Fans will yawn through it waiting for the Year End Championship.
 
JamisonRun40 said:
I wish the men's season would finish already. There a couple of tournaments that should really just say goodbye. I really don't know why there has to be a Master 1000 at the end of the season, the players have had it and need break.
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They should scrap the Paris Masters and play a Masters event on grass before Wimbledon IMO.
 
An upset. Pouille beat Tsonga is straight sets in the final

Lucas Pouille secured the biggest win of his career after beating Jo-Wilfried Tsonga to win the Erste Bank Open 500 title in Vienna.

The Frenchman claimed the fourth title of his career and his first ATP World Tour 500-level trophy after the 6-1, 6-4 win.


Pouille is also the first player to win on all surfaces in 2017, adding the hard-court crown in Vienna to victories on the clay in Budapest and the grass of Stuttgart

http://au.eurosport.com/tennis/poui...te-bank-open-500-title_sto6386619/story.shtml
 
HODGEYROAD said:
They should scrap the Paris Masters and play a Masters event on grass before Wimbledon IMO.
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Couldn't agree more. Queens Club (more likely) or Halle should be elevated. I've always thought, why is there 6 masters on hardcourts, 3 on clay & none on grass? Seems out of whack.

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yabsy said:
I've always thought, why is there 6 masters on hardcourts, 3 on clay & none on grass? Seems out of whack.
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It's not that much out of whack. It's still in reasonable proportion with the tennis calendar.

Also it's a huge ask to have a big tournament in the middle of what is now still only a 3 week gap b/t the FO and Wimbledon. That gap isn't big enough IMHO.

The only reason why the Paris Masters is not a great spectacle today is because the sport has changed. It has become more endurance-based then ever. It becomes a chore to play the event these days when players who have already qualified for the WTF just want to skip it. When those players do that it reduces the quality of the event and then people don't want to turn up.

Back in the day the Paris Masters was an awesome tournament to end the season with before the WTF. It deserves better than what it is now.
 

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My understanding Delpo needs to make the SF of Paris to qualify for the world tour finals, really hope he does it as he was languishing in the 40s before the US open. Won't be easy though will have to win tonight and then likely beat Zverev and Dimitrov to reach the SF.
 
HODGEYROAD said:
Hard to know who was the best player this season as Federer skipped 5 of the masters series events and the French Open.
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You could make a case for both of them and some people will.

Personally, I am a simple person and think year-end means you were the best(or at least most consistent).
 
Federer hit the best form throughout the year but to be the best in the tennis world you have to perform week in, week out. Nadal had some dips but played out the year. Federer made the right decision for him but that boiled down to only playing the events that suited him and avoiding the wear and tear that is inevitable for most players, and indeed part of the challenge of the sport.

Federer's form > Nadal's form, but Nadal's year > Federer's year.
 

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Basically comes down to JMDP vs Isner quarter final tonight for the final spot in London, If Del Porto wins he makes it, if he doesn't its likely Carreno Busta unless Isner goes on to win the tournament I think.
 

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