Toast 2017 Best and Fairest (& Other Awards) - Congratulations Clayton Oliver (Spoiled By Trac)

[Gysberts2Bate]

* the coaches love Viney don't they, was bog average in about half the games he actually played this year IMO.

 

[schmuttt]

**** the coaches love Viney don't they, was bog average in about half the games he actually played this year IMO.

I’m a big fan but he definitely gets overrated in the voting, think Jones does as well tbh.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

I’m a big fan but he definitely gets overrated in the voting, think Jones does as well tbh.

Yeah I love both but it'd be nice to see players who were more consistent get some recognition. Was thinking the same about Jones

 

[Topkent]

My opinion was that
1. Oliver
2. Hibberd
3. Jetta
4. Tmac
5. Garlett


For about 8 weeks at the end of the year the melky bar kid should have been top 5.

Jordan Lewis being that high was a joke, I'm guessing his consistency earned him a spot because he got 2nd at the Hawks last year and they thought he had dropped off

 

[stretcharmstrong]

Does appear they took the finals miss deeply.

Why?

 

[PitchBlease]

Clarry also got the clubman's award. Promising given his mcnugget past and suggestions he's a bit of a lout. Also further proof they used more than a little of Jordie McKenzie's DNA when creating him, along with what I assume to be some species of warlock.

 

[PitchBlease]

Also Jackson Redvers at 21st. He's not coming back.

 

[booshboy]

Also Jackson Redvers at 21st. He's not coming back.

obviously Goody isnt a fan but that's just a joke. Was one of our better players up until he got injured. Lewis finishing 3rd is laughable, no wonder we didnt make finals and don't know what Tom McDonald has done wrong he deserved to be top 5. just shows how irrelevant B+F votes are I guess.

 

[dee_mac]

It's a s**t voting system (4 match committee members score each players individual game from 0-10). I reckon they'd get sucked into weighting scores for different players based on their expectation, rather than looking at who the players with the most impact for the day were.

Should have 4-6 people give out 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 & 6 votes for each match.

 

[PitchBlease]

obviously Goody isnt a fan but that's just a joke. Was one of our better players up until he got injured. Lewis finishing 3rd is laughable, no wonder we didnt make finals and don't know what Tom McDonald has done wrong he deserved to be top 5. just shows how irrelevant B+F votes are I guess.

Yeah not wanting to say the n-word but it's almost reminiscent of Neeld placing both Matt Jones & Terlich. Like the club can have its idea of what makes a good season or player but when there's such a gap to how they actually went it looks a bit pedantic

 

[Cannon82]

obviously Goody isnt a fan but that's just a joke. Was one of our better players up until he got injured. Lewis finishing 3rd is laughable, no wonder we didnt make finals and don't know what Tom McDonald has done wrong he deserved to be top 5. just shows how irrelevant B+F votes are I guess.

I'd imagine the votes are more to do with carrying out their role(s) during the game. So while Watts may have done a few cute things and overall been okay, if he'd been asked to run around, pressure, lay tackles etc, the coaches would likely not have given him as high a mark as someone watching the game.

Lewis though... just assuming that's a symptom of bringing an experienced 4-time Premiership player into the fold. The way he eats breakfast and reads the morning paper would be worth 40 B&F votes alone.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

obviously Goody isnt a fan but that's just a joke. Was one of our better players up until he got injured. Lewis finishing 3rd is laughable, no wonder we didnt make finals and don't know what Tom McDonald has done wrong he deserved to be top 5. just shows how irrelevant B+F votes are I guess.

He was 6th at round 14 - missing 6 games and playing poorly in the back half of the year doesnt help with how our votes are recorded

 

[booshboy]

He was 6th at round 14 - missing 6 games and playing poorly in the back half of the year doesnt help with how our votes are recorded

didn't realize that, I mustve missed him in the top 10 after round 14. Thats fair enough.

 

[Russian Demon]

B&F's are funny with how different all the voting systems are. With the way ours is, its more like a "Most improved" award.

Lewis is a joke. Must have been part of his contract so they had to squeeze him in.

 

[00Stinger]

B&F's are funny with how different all the voting systems are. With the way ours is, its more like a "Most improved" award.

Lewis is a joke. Must have been part of his contract so they had to squeeze him in.

Or maybe he was given lock down specific roles which he completed perfectly?

Maybe he did jobs that freed up Hibberd? But as fans we only notice the dashing possession happy player

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[Russian Demon]

Or maybe he was given lock down specific roles which he completed perfectly?

Maybe he did jobs that freed up Hibberd? But as fans we only notice the dashing possession happy player

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Lol, well the butchered kicks and inability to pressure or tackle after the 3rd quarter he executed perfectly

 

[DemonTim]

Casey does the b n f the same way. Always found it weird that every player on the ground gets a score
Just do it like normal with the 5, 4, 3, 2, 1

 

[ponsdale]

SO I crunched the numbers for points per game:

• Hibberb climbs to 4th
• Watts stays at 21st

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Congrats to Oliver but can't understand how Pig finished so low...wtf?

 

[TheCount]

Congrats to Oliver but can't understand how Pig finished so low...wtf?

Nor can any of us tbh

 

[Cannon82]

SO I crunched the numbers for points per game:

• Hibberb climbs to 4th
• Watts stays at 21st

The thing I found amusing about our points system is that if you have 4 coaches giving marks of 0 to 10 each game, it seems like the vast majority of our side were scored at an average of 3/10 for the year. Guess our half time team talks were "You're playing badly, you're playing badly, and you're playing badly, and you're ******* useless. Clarry... solid mate, solid."

 

[PerfectFooty]

I get the feeling future Best and Fairests are just going to be dominated between Clarry and Viney. Both have already achieved so much at their respective ages, i can only imagine what it'll be like when they're in their prime

 

[schmuttt]

Man trenners speech made me sad. There’s an alternate universe out there where he is a premiership skipper.

 

[astrodee]

Hibberd's missing the first few games didn't help his finishing position. Plays those and easily makes top 3-5.

 

[VineySwatTeam]

Well done Clarry!! Now back it up, son. Impressive that even Viney struggled to match his training standards, apparently. This kid could be anything if he attacks the rest of his footballing career with the mindset he's shown this year. I love the fact he got into a number of high profile verbal's and physical altercation's this season. This kid doesn't take a backward step and he's got the game to back it up. Exactly what we need.

Adding to the chorus of those dumbfounded by AA Hibberd placing #6th. Thought he was better than Lewis, N. Jones and probably Jetta.