2017 Chat with the Club - now with answers see OP

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    Adelaide
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    One of the reasons the Crow emblem is not a Priority is because more supporters actually don't mind the emblem, I am one of them.
    Remember just because you and the network you run with dislike something does not make it a popular issue or important issue.
    Crow get feedback on several media and social media outlets, plus internal feedback direct to the club,
    I have been asked several times on both Social media, face to face and via Phone calls my opinions of the club I am sure other members have.
     
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  2. Geoffa32

    Geoffa32 Hall of Famer

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    The Adelaide Rowing club was a prematch venue for a few games last year.

    SMA get their cut from the Village. It is why it has been allowed to continue after the SMA cried about it and now have control over the entire precinct on match days.

    KT said on AA at the start of last year they would come to an arrangement with the SMA about keeping it open. Does not take an Einstein to work out what that wa$



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  3. Elite Crow

    Elite Crow Premium Platinum

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    I'm saying you agree with the decision the club made and trying to justify their decision so you can.
     
  4. Elite Crow

    Elite Crow Premium Platinum

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    I thought I did
     
  5. Pdub

    Pdub Norm Smith Medallist

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    I'm not desperately looking for things to throw a tantrum about and not filling in the blanks so they allow me to.
     
  6. 1970crow

    1970crow Brownlow Medallist

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    But it's not right. Picking up a player that we can delist in one years time places us in the exact position we are right now. It's pure bullshit.
     
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  7. Allefgib

    Allefgib Moderator

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    Well done Feenix macca and nikki.

    Good to see some ppl comng around to appreciating the realities of how this interaction with the club works.
     
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  8. 1970crow

    1970crow Brownlow Medallist

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    It's taken the AFL a fair while to catch up with what's been going on elsewhere for years. Retail outlets have been engaging in this way for yonks. Sign up, costs nothing, get a card, feel a part of something and give us the opportunity to direct market our wares to you and remind you of our existence weekly. At our pissant little golf club with 350 full members, we get far more F&B trade from our social membership database and Facebook followers than we do from the equivalent of season ticket holders.
     
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  9. Geoffa32

    Geoffa32 Hall of Famer

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    I woukd suspect there will be more meaningful Youtube content and email correspondance.

    As Nikki said a smarter email system.

    With sponsors/advertisers getting on board to market their products to an ever growing database.

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  10. Elite Crow

    Elite Crow Premium Platinum

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    Why would anyone do that?
     
  11. Pdub

    Pdub Norm Smith Medallist

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    you tell me.
     

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  12. NikkiNoo

    NikkiNoo Premium Platinum

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    They would likely already be tracking what you do when you receive an email. All their emails have embedded images and this is what is used to track who has opened the email, how long they spent looking at it, and what links did they then click on from the email. I use these type of analytics at my work to do the same thing. The next step would be to use the information gleaned from those analytics to create more targeted lists etc to adjust the flow of information to supporters.
     
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  13. Tex Danger

    Tex Danger Club Legend

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    Therefore the point that Thommo stopping us taking another rookie this year because of planning for future list numbers is also invalid. We could have had Thommo and another rookie knowing that to get down the the required number we would delist Thommo and the most underperforming rookie
     
  14. Elite Crow

    Elite Crow Premium Platinum

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    Why is Fagan using it as the reason and why did we go in with predetermined list size?
     
  15. Elite Crow

    Elite Crow Premium Platinum

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    It's your story
     
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  16. MRB37

    MRB37 Brownlow Medallist

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    #441 MRB37, Feb 16, 2017
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    It gets them from the Crows database and onto their own too. Club gives away a cheapy prize, signed football or whatever. You enter the "competition" and you're now on Hertz, Bendigo Bank or Thomas Farms database.
     
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  17. Scorpus

    Scorpus Bamboozler

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    Just make opening a link set a cookie, then use that cookie to track you around the entire Internet.

    Use the data from the tracking to create more targeted marketing and grab high impact sponsorships.

    Surely the AFC is already doing this
     
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  18. feenix67

    feenix67 Norm Smith Medallist

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    Since Fages, yes. Don't forget that, until recently, Telstra owned all the club sites (except Collingwood) as well as the AFL main site
     
  19. DJ75

    DJ75 Norm Smith Medallist

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    I was actually a bit disappointed with the answer and lack of follow up on the question of 'best football program'.
    Results have improved slightly this is true, but the statement about 20 or so changes is a bit of a myth I suspect. He could claim 40 changes and we would believe it, with the SANFL and AFLW all coming on board.

    I'm more interested in the immediate AFL football program. How many of the 'best' do we have there. It's a question that wasn't asked nor answered.
     
  20. feenix67

    feenix67 Norm Smith Medallist

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    "So Andrew, how many more people do you reckon you have to move on before you've got the best footy department? Surely Campo and Clarkey are done?"

    Yeah, right.
     
  21. Pdub

    Pdub Norm Smith Medallist

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    Cookie's don't work like that. A cookie is a text file that only your website can access, which means you can only get information to and from it while they are on your site, you can only track someone around the internet if you get every site on the internet to open up your site in a frame and pass data to that frame about what their site is and what you are doing.
     
  22. 1970crow

    1970crow Brownlow Medallist

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    Really good question. Leaving the rookie spot for a catB promotion and the list spot for a rookie promotion, ie flexibility is a fair explanation. But this garbage about not taking on a player who could be delisted at end of year anyway because of the merging of the lists is odd. It's clearly not valid at all. So you need to look at reasons that they're not prepared to admit. For me it can only be an overall financial saving. But we were going to take on Gibbs, so a $60k rookie instead wouldn't cause any grief. Maybe the just didn't think it through, perhaps no one in lust management said, "yeh, but can't we just delist that guy at year's end anyway, so it's really a free swing for free".
     
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  23. Scorpus

    Scorpus Bamboozler

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    All you have to do is partner with an advertising company for the cookie and that's taken care of for you.

    The website, in this case the AFC, would simply store some information or a tracking ID on your computer. Other websites with appropriate ads or other trackers would simply look for the cookie and then send info back to a tracking server when it finds it.

    It's pretty easy to do.
     
  24. Pdub

    Pdub Norm Smith Medallist

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    Pretty much only facebook and google can do it reliably since they cover so much of the internet, but they don't give you user data back so you can sell it. All you can do is let them choose the ads to put on your site and they will use their data to decide which ads to use.
     
  25. Scorpus

    Scorpus Bamboozler

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    Yeah maybe if you're a pleb website that only uses basic ads. The advertising and tracking landscape is much more complex.

    For starters, most high-profile retailers that have a strong online presence would be using non-advert tracking scripts like Quantserve (there are many others) to track people that buy items on their website. This in turn helps them sell ads. So similarly the AFC could use a Quantserve tracker and get that data back for advertising purposes.

    The AFC don't care if their supporters read JoesLawnmowerBlog.com with basic Google ads. But they do care if you're vising high profile websites like Chemist Warehouse or Toyota, which would be using a proper tracking service.

    Also, most good websites don't solely rely on Google/Doubleclick for their ads. Often they use a third-party ad company which uses the ad space for a variety of ads, including those from Doubleclick. You'd have a much worse CPM if you stuck with one ad provider rather than making the most of multiple ad sources and targeted campaigns.
     
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