List Mgmt. 2017 Contract Status (Seppo's Thread)

Discussion in 'Fremantle' started by Tayl0r, Mar 8, 2017.

Put it out there
  1. Righteo

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    Is that really all you're basing it off? That's pretty bloody flimsy grounds for thinking he'll "probably" go. It's possible that Harley makes his own decisions. We've had a great retention rate among our young interstate players for quite a while now and I don't see why that wouldn't apply to him too.
     

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  2. Freo Shark

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    Hence why i said "probably" and "hazarding a guess"

    Now he has played in a couple games (alot more hopefully) and standout wins too, hopefully he feels more for the club and part of it.

    But I still think hes a risk, I dont think we have as much leeway with building depth when it includes Vic kids. Its too easy to go home and play if even it means seconds.
     
  3. wayToGo_

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    What?!?! You think a Vic kid would rather go home and play 2nds than play AFL here in WA? That makes absolutely no sense.

    Did you see our other 17 players get around him when he kicked his first goal? I think if he didn't want to be here that reaction would have been considerably different.
     
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    I said its harder for us to build depth coz the temptation for those Vic boys fighting the edges of the top 22 (next 10 or so) and playing for Peel most weekends to go home even if they are not guaranteed games. Not alot of downside, maybe a better chance on a losing Vic side than a WA team rebuilding.

    Thats why I hope Balic gets more games to build the bond. Its easier in the team to bond than a Peel boy who looks on.
     
  5. go_the_dockers

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    Up to 9 players out with out much effort. I think if Sandilands body hold up, and Ibbotson forms stays good then they will get another year. I doubt Johnson's body will be good enough.
    Griffin - Delist
    Ballantyne - Trade\Delist
    Suban - Trade\Delist
    Ibbotson - Delist\ 1 Year (Dependent on form)
    Dawson - Delist
    Johnson - Retire
    Sandilands - Retire\1 Year (Can he stay fit)
    Clarke - Trade\Delist
    Yarran - Delist

    The big question I have is about Mundy?

    He is still in our top 5 players, but probably won't play in our next premiership. Would you rather a 2nd round pick, or his service for another 3 years.

    If he got a good offer, I would support him in taking it and would happily take the 2nd round pick we got in compensation.
     
  6. Tayl0r

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    It will also depend on the rest of the free agency situation, we wouldn't want to lose compensation for Mundy because we secured another band 2 free agent and I would expect the club with interest in him to be pushing for a flag in the short term so they could/should be a top four side - I would strongly consider matching an offer and trading for their first round pick instead. 24 to 16 might not sound like much but it all helps.

    I'd be trying to secure Mundy for two more years anyway.
     
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    Definitely service for another 3 years. Mundy has been critical to our past two wins. Without him we might be sitting at 0-4 and our rebuild would look completely different to what it does today. Sure you have to bring in new blood but players like Mundy make the players around them better which is especially important in helping youngsters develop playing AFL games. If you take them all out you become uncompetitive and who develops well in that environment? Because everyone loves "learning" when they are getting spanked by a hundred points every week. It's why a bunch of clubs have been in a rebuild phase for many many years and some (eg Carlton) are still struggling to get out of it. If you look at what the Hawks have become after just losing SMitchell and Lewis - you just can't underestimate the impact they have not just individually but on their team mates. Mundy's versatility also means he isn't taking up a specific spot we need a youngster to develop in - which is why losing Barlow is probably justifiable in comparison.
     
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    Hypothetical tho, if we turned him into say pick 16. That would be the approximate going price for JJ. Would you do it for the potential premiership future chances? Tough one.
     
  9. wayToGo_

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    I think we're being a bit delusional if we think we are getting pick #16 or anything close to that for a 31/32 year old. What pick did Mitchell and Lewis go for last year?
     
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    Very different. Hawks were trying to get rid of players for salary cap reasons. If someone is offering to pick Mundy up under free agent rules then we have a base line of compensation. He is likely to get a decent $ offer so R2 compensation would be the minimum.
     
  11. wayToGo_

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    I'd think a second rounder is the best compensation we could hope for given his age (and how long a contract another club might offer - which is why free agency for Mitchell would have gained little) but then again I was very surprised with the Mayne (and Wells) contract and compo so who knows? Pick #16 is still a first rounder. I suppose if we get the spoon it wouldn't be too far away with second round compo but I'm personally hoping we finish closer to the 8 :)
     

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