List Mgmt. 2017 Draft Discussion (cont in Pt 2)

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My info is if one of cerra or brayshaw are not available at 7 or 8 aswell as the beer then we will take Clark or coffield definitely . Pick 8 will be out of remaining of Clark or coffield, steohenson and bonar. He didn’t mention Murphy so we may have cooled . He did say that while we have questions steohenson heart concerns, if we get a mid in Clark brayshaw or cerra then we will likely then just pick as best available . Exciting times ahead
 

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The amazing thing with Steele is that he ran a 3.00 sec 20m sprint at his combine, so he actually has speed there, and perhaps it will show up more when he has another preseason or two of fitness under his belt. Maybe like how Mav's speed just appeared out of no-where all of a sudden in that game against Richmond a couple of years ago, when he kicked that ripper goal on the run!

I'm really bullish about him though. He's already well ahead of the likes of Seb or Armo at the same age, and did it this year off a minimal preseason and in his first year playing midfield at AFL Level, so I reckon he's going to be bloody good by about 2019, once he's learned to win more clearances and is spreading and kicking more. Lots of scope for improvement there.
Ziebell gets a bit of stick but he's a gun, club captain, bull player who is an inside bull who drifts forward and can play as a marking option. I wasn't being disparaging. I think he'll be a very good player. Seb was as slow as **** at first and got quicker, so did Sinclair.
 

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The only knock I’ve heard is since Clark was moved into the midfield his disposal efficiency took a considerable hit, which when he played down back was his point of difference being highly skilled & duel sided.

If anything he looks like an all rounder similarly to Brayshaw. They both do everything well but dont have an elite trait that really stands out & smacks you in the face like Dow & LDU with their power at stoppages & Cerra with his sublime touch & skills in the contest.

Farren Ray is a very good comparison. Clark similarly to Ray seems to effortlessly eat up territory with the laconic but long strides he makes when running with the footy. Ray probably a better mark, Clark a better decision maker who looks to lower his eyes more often than not & spot up shorter targets.

I reckon right now odds would have two Dandy Stingrays kids being selected at 7 & 8 - I feel it’s almost time to roll out the welcome mat to Clark & Bonar.

Nah HC has tricks in his bag, he hits the ball at pace and will scoop up one handed, does the 360 blind turns to twist out of tackles and does the don't argues. He plays a very assertive almost arrogant style of footy. I reckon he's a flashy player.
 

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#7 Hunter Clark...... or Cerra if he slides (less likely now with Stephensons health concern)

Both well balanced Mids with quality kicking decision making. Cerra has not been as durable as Clark with injury issues worth noting. Clark can run and carry and is tough in the contest and applying defensive pressure. Has a bit of the Bont about him the way he moves at times and how easily he can go in and scoop the ball up in a contested situation then get his arms up in the air moving through traffic. Unusual combination of a smooth operator and a hard nosed competitor. Versatile, can play all three lines. Suited midfielder in the Red White & Black

#8 Nicholas Coffield.........or Bonar, Stephenson (if the Coff is off the board)

Saints need to make good kicking a priority and adding Coffield along with Clark addresses that. Im more interested in a player who can hit up targets consistently and open up the opposition with his laser kick as opposed to a speed demon who dashes down the wing like Usain Bolt and kicks it straight to the other team. Hawthorn built a formiddable team around elite kicking hardly ever winning the contested possession count, they cut you up with skill class. Clark and Coffield are both fast as it is especially Coffield (2.91s 20m sprint). Coffield can definitely transition to a Midfielder full time and has proven that already.
I reckon this is a likely result for the Saints withstanding a slider like Stephenson/Cerra (unlikely). It would be a good one too, would love either at 10.

I don't think Bonar is the right choice, seems a similar type to Steele. Both Coffield and Clark have the versatility, speed and kicking skills that make a perfect fit with both likely to start off a wing or HBF. The key is whether you think they will transfer into the midfield full time as they develop, Clark being more likely to do so IMO. If they both do then you're laughing.

With the Saints well placed in the draft, it's going to be an exciting year next year.

Good luck on Friday, can't wait for "the slider" to reach pick 10 and come to Carlton. :p
 

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FB: Baker - Penny - Hudghton
HB: Blake - Maguire - Jones
RK: Knobel - [redacted] - Powell
CR: Clarke - Hayes - Dal Santo
HF: Guerra - Riewoldt - Hamill
FF: Milne - Gehrig - Koschitzke
IC: Thompson Goddard L.Fisher Schwarze

Not to mention that side was missing Rob Harvey, Heath Black and the criminally underrated Brett Voss that day.

AND Justin Peckett and a young Leigh Montagna...

By why remind us of this?! How that team never won a flag - or even made a Grand Final - is a source of never-ending rage to me.
 

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I reckon this is a likely result for the Saints withstanding a slider like Stephenson/Cerra (unlikely). It would be a good one too, would love either at 10.

I don't think Bonar is the right choice, seems a similar type to Steele. Both Coffield and Clark have the versatility, speed and kicking skills that make a perfect fit with both likely to start off a wing or HBF. The key is whether you think they will transfer into the midfield full time as they develop, Clark being more likely to do so IMO. If they both do then you're laughing.

With the Saints well placed in the draft, it's going to be an exciting year next year.

Good luck on Friday, can't wait for "the slider" to reach pick 10 and come to Carlton. :p
I reckon Fogerty is the one at 10..

Christmas is coming next Friday for us! :p
 

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FB: Baker - Penny - Hudghton
HB: Blake - Maguire - Jones
RK: Knobel - [redacted] - Powell
CR: Clarke - Hayes - Dal Santo
HF: Guerra - Riewoldt - Hamill
FF: Milne - Gehrig - Koschitzke
IC: Thompson Goddard L.Fisher Schwarze

By why remind us of this?! How this team never won a flag - or even made a Grand Final - is a source of never-ending rage to me.
I know. I’m watching the last quarter now.

Next Friday will subside that just a tad.
 

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If we were to get Coffileld and Stephenson which is a good possibility, both would slot in nicely for round one I reckon.

Geary - Austin - Webster
Coffield - Carlisle - Roberton
Sinclair - Ross - Acres
Billings - Bruce - Stephenson
Gresham - McCartin - Membrey

Longer - Steele - Steven

Dunstan, Newnes, Stevens, Savage
 

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If we were to get Coffileld and Stephenson which is a good possibility, both would slot in nicely for round one I reckon.

Geary - Austin - Webster
Coffield - Carlisle - Roberton
Sinclair - Ross - Acres
Billings - Bruce - Stephenson
Gresham - McCartin - Membrey

Longer - Steele - Steven

Dunstan, Newnes, Stevens, Savage
Zero chance they play Round 1.
 
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