Opinion 2017 Draft Discussion - Pick 3 - Poll added

Discussion in 'Carlton' started by HARKER, May 22, 2017.

Put it out there
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Who we are likely to take at Pick 3 .......

  1. Luke Davies-Uniacke

    16.9%
  2. Cameron Rayner

    37.8%
  3. Adam Cerra

    8.6%
  4. Paddy Dow

    23.8%
  5. Charlie Constable

    1.5%
  6. Darcy Fogarty

    4.3%
  7. Andrew Brayshaw

    2.6%
  8. Jaidyn Stephenson

    2.1%
  9. Jack Higgins

    0.6%
  10. Nicholas Coffield

    1.1%
  11. Other

    0.7%
  1. JrDr

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  2. ray8182

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    Does Richmonds premiership win increase the value of players with great running capacity like Brayshaw and Moore?

    Richmond's premiership win was pretty amazing considering they had a whole host of players who we would think are very average. Because of this l consider it one of the better premiership wins in terms of a club getting the best out of itself.

    Whilst many of the Richmond players are ordinary with ball in hand they are elite without the ball. They do there best work without the ball. The number of times Richmond just hacked the ball forward with no skill and then just out competed and pressured the opposition into submission was incredible. I kept thinking they would fade in the second half of games because they wouldn't be able to keep it up. But instead they just ran over every team. Nobody could deal with the constant pressure all game which was in part due to the above average running capacity of many of there players.

    Now this brings me back to Moore and Brayshaw. The value on players with greater running capacity and theoretically the ability to apply more pressure for longer may increase. Does Carlton prioritise these sorts who not only look like good footballers but also have elite endurance?




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    From the photo in the Age this morning it looks like Stephenson has cut his hair short. Much happier with him at 3 now. Didn't want him with the dreadful pony tail
     
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    He's been playing with that cut for some time now.
    It's the Geelong boys you should worry about. :)
     
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    I agree i would have 2 of Higgins, Fogarty, Brayshaw, Coffield or Constable over just Dow or Cerra everyday
     
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    Maybe we would, but why would The Saints want to do that deal?
    They need coverage as much as we do and maybe even more so.

    If SOS can snag what he sees as being the best player in the draft, he should simply do so.
     
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    I got out of the sos interview that we possibly would be looking at pick swaps so you never know
     
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    Having watched Fogarty live once and 2 games in the champs I fail to see any compelling reason why he will be an AFL footballer. If we were to trade for the Saints picks he would be very much down the list of player I would hope to draft.
     
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    Talking hypothetically of course. Would love Brayshaw to be around that range, but I reckon he'll end up going in the Top 7. I can't see too many weaknesses with him. Maybe pace? But he still gets around the ground pretty well. He seems to assess very, very quickly, and he's generally in the right spot anyway. His disposal looks better than Dow's, but Dow goes for riskier kicks.

    Very happy to have an early pick as at gives as a heap of options, and we don't need to have contingencies - just know exactly what we're looking for at that pick and nail it.
     
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    Where's the sos interview
     
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    Hey does anyone have a link to a replay of the U18 AllStar game of Grand Final Day...missed it on the day :(
     
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    Can you find a better comparison than Jenkins ...
     
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    I hope we swap 3 for 7&8 and land two good kids. Build from bottom up.
     
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    Why does everyone kept talking about this pick swap with saints ?


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    ****** if I know why the Saints would give up 7/8 for pick 3 in an even field.
     
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    Does getting Kennedy put a line through LDU?
     
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    Brisbane taking LDU puts a line through LDU i reckon.
     
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    3 and what?
    No way would St Kilda trade 7 and 8 for just 3.
     
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    Yeah I can't see it happening, the Saints would have to have a major bonar for someone.

    Alternatively, if SOS feels the top 10 this year are very even, I wonder if he'd consider downgrading this year to upgrade next years second? Something like...

    Carl out 2017 #3, 2018 2nd (26ish)
    Carl in Saints #7, Saints 2018 1st (12ish)

    Obviously it's a gamble but there's more incentive for the Saints to trade as they keep 2 high picks this year and they would be bullish about there improvement for next year.

    For the blues we also keep a good pick this year and use it on someone like Stephenson or Brayshaw, but can potentially have a great gain next year turning 26 into 12. If the Saints don't improve 26 may become 8ish.

    Not advocating this as I have no knowledge what so ever about drafting but I just thought I'd throw up a different scenario.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Have you a good idea that will come about?
    What are the current rumours, should the picks stay as are?

    Brisbane: Was Dow and now seems to be LDU
    Gold Coast: Would they take Rayner here? I just don't see it even though the noise is saying that Rayner will go top 2. Feel they'd prefer LDU
    Carlton: Was Rayner, but not sure we'd go that way.
    North: It's all Stephenson. Someone threw the snowball and it's become an avalanche.
    Fremantle: Some noise around Brayshaw here.
    Collingwood: ???? Cerra???
    St.Kilda: Coffield
    St.Kilda: Reckon this one will be traded.
     
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    Yeah just gut feel so far:

    BL: LDU - pretty confident on this
    GC: Rayner - They got Bowes and Brodie so prolly rules out Cerra. Dow maybe. Brayshaw, not quite. So i'll go Rayner with medium confidence.
    Carl: Dow - I think his allround game as a mid will attract us. Cerra maybe. Brayshaw maybe but not quite.
    North: Stephenson - Pace they need and they like him. If there Dow might be their pick before him.
    Freo: Brayshaw or Cerra
     
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