Opinion 2017 Draft Discussion - Pick 3 - Poll added

Who we are likely to take at Pick 3 .......


  • Total voters
    534

Blue Flame

Club Legend
Joined
Jun 15, 2012
Posts
2,661
Likes
2,436
Location
UK
AFL Club
Carlton

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Joined
Oct 2, 2007
Posts
33,309
Likes
27,191
Location
Perth
AFL Club
Carlton
Moderator #5,655
Post draft will be interesting on here.
Im sticking to my guns with LDU. I just see something in him I like. Despite his bigger body, I see a lot of upside in him, and he's already very good barring his disposal. Shades of Judd. Stands up in a tackle, bursts from packs, looks a million bucks at times. Only really been focussing on his footy for 2 years now, so I reckon in the right environment he's got plenty of scope to be the best in the draft by a long way.

Id take Dow at 2 and then Cerra at 3 over Raynor at 4 as well (I rate Brayshaw enough for him to come in at 5 - reckon he is a deadset Cotchin clone).

I like Dows pace out of packs and his aggression. Not afraid to have a shot at goal either. Plenty of scope to improve as well. Cerra impresses me with his poise (reminds me a little of Gibbs). Bonus points for Cerra bulking up this year and working on much better contested numbers instead of being more outside. Its a good sign for the future. Went away, worked hard and came back with extra strings to his bow. Shows a willingness to go that extra yard.

Raynor scares me with his endurance and the fact he's more of an impact player. I feel with SPS, Pickett and Curnow we already have that kind of lowish possession high impact player covered. We really need more 'pure mids' for mine.
 
Joined
Jul 17, 2016
Posts
405
Likes
608
AFL Club
Carlton
Im sticking to my guns with LDU. I just see something in him I like. Despite his bigger body, I see a lot of upside in him, and he's already very good barring his disposal. Shades of Judd. Stands up in a tackle, bursts from packs, looks a million bucks at times. Only really been focussing on his footy for 2 years now, so I reckon in the right environment he's got plenty of scope to be the best in the draft by a long way.

Id take Dow at 2 and then Cerra at 3 over Raynor at 4 as well (I rate Brayshaw enough for him to come in at 5 - reckon he is a deadset Cotchin clone).

I like Dows pace out of packs and his aggression. Not afraid to have a shot at goal either. Plenty of scope to improve as well. Cerra impresses me with his poise (reminds me a little of Gibbs). Bonus points for Cerra bulking up this year and working on much better contested numbers instead of being more outside. Its a good sign for the future. Went away, worked hard and came back with extra strings to his bow. Shows a willingness to go that extra yard.

Raynor scares me with his endurance and the fact he's more of an impact player. I feel with SPS, Pickett and Curnow we already have that kind of lowish possession high impact player covered. We really need more 'pure mids' for mine.
Based on this, I'm thankful you are not there on draft night.

Pick 3, you take the best player available...which means if Raynor is there, then you take him.
 

teagueyubeauty

Premiership Player
Joined
Oct 5, 2004
Posts
3,025
Likes
5,683
Location
Somewhere there
AFL Club
Carlton
Other Teams
Liverpool, Yankees
If he wanted to stay in Melb (which incidentally I think he does) he should of just gone to the combine considering how poor his endurance is


Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Maybe it’s improved significantly over the season and his camp want to leave his current times PB as the base mark
 

LanceRomance

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Sep 21, 2011
Posts
16,737
Likes
22,027
Location
Melbourne
AFL Club
Carlton
I spoke with the Vic Metro coach tonight who gave me a little insight into the draft. He clearly has Rayner as the best player in this draft pool, then daylight. He does have Cerra at number 2 (may be a little biased) but rates Dow very highly. He has no doubts that Cerra is a 250 game player and is adamant that whoever selects him will have a very, very good player. He doesn't know too much about LDU.

Another source close to Vic Metro (definitely not the coach) also suggested that Rayner missing the combine was no accident. He would very much like to stay in Melbourne.
Yeah, I am suspicious of his beep test too
 

Farktherest

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Oct 3, 2013
Posts
11,129
Likes
17,101
AFL Club
Carlton
Im sticking to my guns with LDU. I just see something in him I like. Despite his bigger body, I see a lot of upside in him, and he's already very good barring his disposal. Shades of Judd. Stands up in a tackle, bursts from packs, looks a million bucks at times. Only really been focussing on his footy for 2 years now, so I reckon in the right environment he's got plenty of scope to be the best in the draft by a long way.

Id take Dow at 2 and then Cerra at 3 over Raynor at 4 as well (I rate Brayshaw enough for him to come in at 5 - reckon he is a deadset Cotchin clone).

I like Dows pace out of packs and his aggression. Not afraid to have a shot at goal either. Plenty of scope to improve as well. Cerra impresses me with his poise (reminds me a little of Gibbs). Bonus points for Cerra bulking up this year and working on much better contested numbers instead of being more outside. Its a good sign for the future. Went away, worked hard and came back with extra strings to his bow. Shows a willingness to go that extra yard.

Raynor scares me with his endurance and the fact he's more of an impact player. I feel with SPS, Pickett and Curnow we already have that kind of lowish possession high impact player covered. We really need more 'pure mids' for mine.
This is very true.

Despite these kinds of players being A grade potential and match winners, i think there is a limit to how many you actually want in one team since you still need the accumulators to win games week in, week out.

To add to those 3 even Fisher & Cuningham aren't exactly big possession winners either so just based on that i'd want one of Dow/LDU/Cerra over Rayner.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Joined
Jul 14, 2005
Posts
9,415
Likes
10,200
AFL Club
Carlton
Other Teams
Manchester City, Boston Bruins
Based on this, I'm thankful you are not there on draft night.

Pick 3, you take the best player available...which means if Raynor is there, then you take him.
It’s actually possible Rayner isn’t the best player in this draft.

This line keeps being perpetuated, but if there was a choice between the two - taking into account the present and future - I’d take LDU.
 

1981

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Oct 21, 2008
Posts
7,168
Likes
6,934
Location
Melbourne
AFL Club
Carlton
Dow is the man for us
Yeah if pressed Dow is my preference. Watching his footage again I didn't realise first time around how hard at it he is in close. He's aggressive to win the ball. Then bursts with pace on the outside. Great combination.

I went to an APS school and played footy, not particularly well mind you, and I can tell you any kid who is BnF three years running must be of a very very high caliber. That means he was not only playing seniors in Year 10 but was the best player. That's almost unheard of.
 

1981

Norm Smith Medallist
Joined
Oct 21, 2008
Posts
7,168
Likes
6,934
Location
Melbourne
AFL Club
Carlton
This has been bothering me for some time, who Dow reminds me of, and now I've got it.... Robert Harvey... Strong and aggressive to win the hard ball then has that break away run.

I can see the LDU Judd comparisons. Judd quicker though. I think it's LDUs size and agility and good run that draws the comparisons.

Raynar Troy Bond or Dusty?

Cerra, not sure...
 

Sheephead

Club Legend
Joined
Nov 23, 2009
Posts
1,101
Likes
2,099
Location
In a good paddock
AFL Club
Carlton
I spoke with the Vic Metro coach tonight who gave me a little insight into the draft. He clearly has Rayner as the best player in this draft pool, then daylight. He does have Cerra at number 2 (may be a little biased) but rates Dow very highly. He has no doubts that Cerra is a 250 game player and is adamant that whoever selects him will have a very, very good player. He doesn't know too much about LDU.

Another source close to Vic Metro (definitely not the coach) also suggested that Rayner missing the combine was no accident. He would very much like to stay in Melbourne.
BRI are saying they interviewed Rayner and he told them he’s happy to move north (or west (FRE)).
 

Soapy V

Brownlow Medallist
Joined
Sep 17, 2015
Posts
18,532
Likes
47,123
AFL Club
Carlton
Im sticking to my guns with LDU. I just see something in him I like. Despite his bigger body, I see a lot of upside in him, and he's already very good barring his disposal. Shades of Judd. Stands up in a tackle, bursts from packs, looks a million bucks at times. Only really been focussing on his footy for 2 years now, so I reckon in the right environment he's got plenty of scope to be the best in the draft by a long way.

Id take Dow at 2 and then Cerra at 3 over Raynor at 4 as well (I rate Brayshaw enough for him to come in at 5 - reckon he is a deadset Cotchin clone).

I like Dows pace out of packs and his aggression. Not afraid to have a shot at goal either. Plenty of scope to improve as well. Cerra impresses me with his poise (reminds me a little of Gibbs). Bonus points for Cerra bulking up this year and working on much better contested numbers instead of being more outside. Its a good sign for the future. Went away, worked hard and came back with extra strings to his bow. Shows a willingness to go that extra yard.

Raynor scares me with his endurance and the fact he's more of an impact player. I feel with SPS, Pickett and Curnow we already have that kind of lowish possession high impact player covered. We really need more 'pure mids' for mine.
I’m in the LDU camp. Not sure he will be available at 3 though.

Rayner as the potential to be a real elite level. It’s up to SOS whether he truly believes he can step up

Dow is the safe bet. I think Cerra is slightly better
 
Top Bottom