Opinion 2017 Draft Discussion - Pick 3 - Poll added

Who we are likely to take at Pick 3 .......


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TooBlue14

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2010 to 2014 pick 3 and 10 had one hit and one miss, players like sumner, freeman at 10 doesn't look very good in hindsight.

2014 - Brayshaw and cockatoo
2015 - mills and McKay
2016 - mccluggage and Bowes
2017 - ??

The last three years lookpretty good at this stage. I'd take any of the last few years 3 and 10 draft picks this month. Keen for Cerra and Fogarty.
 

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2010 to 2014 pick 3 and 10 had one hit and one miss, players like sumner, freeman at 10 doesn't look very good in hindsight.

2014 - Brayshaw and cockatoo
2015 - mills and McKay
2016 - mccluggage and Bowes
2017 - ??

The last three years lookpretty good at this stage. I'd take any of the last few years 3 and 10 draft picks this month. Keen for Cerra and Fogarty.
Weren't exactly standard drafts during that period.
 

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Let's be clear: when he's in games, he can be amongst the footy off HF, and briefly in midfield, but then he will go missing for 5+ minutes.

He is a very talented footballer, but a very limited athlete from an AFL perspective. The Liam Jones comparison is very fair in that sense. Are we prepared to have the midfield pick up his slack when we turn the ball over?
Jim what a wonder you are. How can you know so much with so little to go on. We should all bow down to your greater insights, without which we would be truly lost
 

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Some do struggle to build endurance, like trying to convert a 100M sprinter into a 10,000 KM runner
Lets not exagerate. Lets face it most afl players are not the elite natural athletes that we often portray them to be. They get there through the support and guidance of their club and due to the motivation of contract etc. Most would not win a 100m at schoolboy level, nor would they be running out the 10k . They are mostly ok athletes that happen to have a gift in the area of football ability.
I dont buy this Raynor is a lost cause in terms of endurance BS. He is physically able to reach the necessary levels if he wants to as are probably 95% of players drafted. Sure there will be the freak natural athletes- but they are not the norm or the benchmark
All I know is that modern AFL demands multiple avenues to goal and the influence of the KPF/specialist forward is declining and the emergence of the midfielder who has a proclivity toward kicking goals is becoming ever stronger. If there is anything that cant be trained, it is natural goal sense and conversion. Given that we know Raynor has this latter ability, I say that this puts him in front of most other midfielders. His endurance will come and will only serve to make him even more damaging. I have great faith in SOS and PB to assess a player and do the right thing. If that is Raynor -so be it. If not - bullet dodged
 

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Nah, I know guys at work that have during his career, post him getting the arse and working side by side with him nowadays and he’s actually in a pretty good headspace. Much more relaxed.....
I agree - i bumped into him the other day in East Melbourne. Now is a proud grandfather- but still loves his footy.
 

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Jim what a wonder you are. How can you know so much with so little to go on. We should all bow down to your greater insights, without which we would be truly lost
Lets not exagerate. Lets face it most afl players are not the elite natural athletes that we often portray them to be. They get there through the support and guidance of their club and due to the motivation of contract etc. Most would not win a 100m at schoolboy level, nor would they be running out the 10k . They are mostly ok athletes that happen to have a gift in the area of football ability.
I dont buy this Raynor is a lost cause in terms of endurance BS. He is physically able to reach the necessary levels if he wants to as are probably 95% of players drafted. Sure there will be the freak natural athletes- but they are not the norm or the benchmark
All I know is that modern AFL demands multiple avenues to goal and the influence of the KPF/specialist forward is declining and the emergence of the midfielder who has a proclivity toward kicking goals is becoming ever stronger. If there is anything that cant be trained, it is natural goal sense and conversion. Given that we know Raynor has this latter ability, I say that this puts him in front of most other midfielders. His endurance will come and will only serve to make him even more damaging. I have great faith in SOS and PB to assess a player and do the right thing. If that is Raynor -so be it. If not - bullet dodged
You're clearly a huge fan of Rayner, others have concerns about him. Don't take it personally
 

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3 & 10 pairings I would like:

Rayner & Clark
Rayner & O'Brien
Rayner & Constable
Rayner & Fogarty
Rayner & Brayshaw
Rayner & Bonar
Cerra & Clark
Cerra & Fogarty
Cerra & Bonar
Cerra & Brayshaw
Cerra & O'Brien
Dow & Clark
Dow & Fogarty
Dow & Brayshaw
Dow & Bonar
Dow & O'Brien

The big thing to note is, I don't like Constable with another predominately inside mid.
 

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3 & 10 pairings I would like:

Rayner & Clark
Rayner & O'Brien
Rayner & Constable
Rayner & Fogarty
Rayner & Brayshaw
Rayner & Bonar
Cerra & Clark
Cerra & Fogarty
Cerra & Bonar
Cerra & Brayshaw
Cerra & O'Brien
Dow & Clark
Dow & Fogarty
Dow & Brayshaw
Dow & Bonar
Dow & O'Brien

The big thing to note is, I don't like Constable with another predominately inside mid.
Rayner/Brayshaw would be a awesome
But there are so many good combination
We cant really lose
I cant wait for the draft
 

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3 & 10 pairings I would like:

Rayner & Clark
Rayner & O'Brien
Rayner & Constable
Rayner & Fogarty
Rayner & Brayshaw
Rayner & Bonar
Cerra & Clark
Cerra & Fogarty
Cerra & Bonar
Cerra & Brayshaw
Cerra & O'Brien
Dow & Clark
Dow & Fogarty
Dow & Brayshaw

Dow & Bonar
Dow & O'Brien

The big thing to note is, I don't like Constable with another predominately inside mid.
My favourite combos^ (underlined most preferred)
 
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