Opinion 2017 Draft Discussion - Pick 3 - Poll added

Who we are likely to take at Pick 3 .......


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gandaal

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I dont have any stats but i'd say the vast majority of players drafted as flankers/forwards/defenders etc who are described as being able to potentially move into the midfield when the build their tank, don't end up becoming AFL midfielders.

Petracca and Billings are two recent, high draft picks i can think of that fit this mould. Both are still mainly half forwards who pinch hit in the midfield.
Even Robbie Gray doesn't have the tank to play midfield full time.
There's not many Fyfe and Rockcliffs
 

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Yes, an immediate net loss in terms of midfield quality, but what could be/should be/ will be a huge gain long term.

I just brought up the name Graham for the sake of the argument. Not going to suggest he'll be a great player and not even one that could be better than Macreadie, but again, opportunity weighs in heavily to development. Generally speaking, the more time you have to play senior football, somehow the better one becomes.
Only the experts would know this but I still believe Kennedy in equates to Gibbs out
He’s young and would want to smash it next year and Cripps helping with ed
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Only the experts would know this but I still believe Kennedy in equates to Gibbs out
He’s young and would want to smash it next year and Cripps helping with ed
Watch out
Then we got a pick 10, a pick upgrade and a future second for free.
Boy did we do well :)
 

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Still don't get this "best combination" concept that people are debating. The draft is not a game of school yard footy where 2 captains are nominated then they select who they think is the best player on that day, such a short term concept.

I could be wrong, but I think SOS would have these kids listed from 1 - 90ish, in ratings(based on the player they will become, rather than the immediate impact to the side), then just cross them off as they are selected (Macreadie is a prime example)
Exactly. Going forward we are only going to get so many top 10 picks, we can’t stuff around with these picks worrying about combinations, this where we end up picking inferior talent. Sure, we won’t be selecting a key back, but otherwise these 2 picks will be best available.

This draft, whilst very important, isn’t our end game in terms of our rebuild. There will be many more trade/draft scenarios which provide us opportunity to recruit quality mids.

Having said all that, I hope we do get a quality mid with one of the picks. It is sounding like Brisbane are leaning towards Rayner, if this happens we will end up with Cerra or Dow with pick 3.
 
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Exactly. Going forward we are only going to get so many top 10 picks, we can’t stuff around with these picks worrying about combinations, this where we end up picking inferior talent. Sure, we won’t be selecting a key back, but otherwise these 2 picks will be best available.

This draft, whilst very important, isn’t our end game in terms of our rebuild. There will be many more trade/draft scenarios which provide us opportunity to recruit quality mids.

Having said all that, I hope we do get a quality mid with one of the picks. It is sounding like Brisbane are leaning towards Rayner, if this happens we will end up with Cerra or Dow with pick 3.
Trading in good players always kills a club imo unless they’re at window
Draft our own and make them a champs is my theory then top 4 go shopping
 
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I am not really a "huge fan" . In fact this years bunch to me is a bit underwhelming. But I cant for the life of me understand how a good player has been so widely dismissed due to a flawed test such as the beep and without further information -because the said player missed the latest combine.
Doesn't Billy Hartung hold the record for the beep test? Look at how he's turned out so far at AFL level. Just because Rayner is weak in this area doesn't mean he'll be a dud.
 

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Doesn't Billy Hartung hold the record for the beep test? Look at how he's turned out so far at AFL level. Just because Rayner is weak in this area doesn't mean he'll be a dud.
You can be an elite athlete and a rubbish footballer, but you can't be a poor athlete & an elite footballer.

Delistees far more relevant than Hartung would be Ben Lennon, Tom Lamb
 

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Trading in good players always kills a club imo unless they’re at window
Draft our own and make them a champs is my theory then top 4 go shopping
What if I replaced “trade” with free agency? Dylan Shiel as a fa would compliment our list very nicely. I get your point but we shouldn’t be desperate for a mid in this draft as if this is our last chance.
 

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You can be an elite athlete and a rubbish footballer, but you can't be a poor athlete & an elite footballer.

Delistees far more relevant than Hartung would be Ben Lennon, Tom Lamb
It depends what position you play and how you can utilise what you have. Greg Williams springs to mind but that's another era, I suppose.
 
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What if I replaced “trade” with free agency? Dylan Shiel as a fa would compliment our list very nicely. I get your point but we shouldn’t be desperate for a mid in this draft as if this is our last chance.
I get your point but what is stopping is drafting the next Shiel with 3 or 10?
Bolton I’d guess knows what it takes to develop with his time at the Hawks etc being a great teacher
 
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