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Discussion in 'Adelaide' started by Bicks, Feb 10, 2017.
is Bonar meant to be a utility/kpp or a mid?
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Mid 3rd tall forward or 3rd tall defender so I guess that makes him a very unique player with his speed, athleticism and aerial prowess. The day I saw him live here he played mainly Centre Half Forward but talking to the Dandy Stinger's folk that day they said he'd play midfield when he got more games under his belt....they had enormous wraps on the lad and that was before he was on the mainstream radar. I only needed to see him once to know he was a pretty special talent.
Not many of the SA boys that tested did too much in some of the athletic testing...*SA boys *One of my local boys
Smartspeed 20-metre sprint
Jack Petruccelle 2.87 seconds
Kane Farrell 2.90
Aiden Bonar 2.90
Ben Miller 2.91
Nick Coffield 2.91
Ben Paton 2.95
Brent Daniels 2.95
Stefan Okunbar 2.95
Jaidyn Stephenson 2.95
Nicholas Shipley 2.97
Smartspeed agility test
Kane Farrell 8.10 seconds
Ben Miller 8.10
Brent Daniels 8.11
Trent Mynott 8.20
Nathan Kreuger 8.21 *
Aaron Naughton 8.22
Mitchell Podhajski 8.26
Oscar Allen 8.27
Stefan Okunbar 8.29
Matthew Ling 8.30
Callan England 8.30
Aiden Bonar 8.30
Andrew Brayshaw 8.30
Standing vertical jump
Aiden Bonar 89cm
Kyron Hayden 82cm
Ben Paton 80cm
Harrison Jones 79cm
Jordan Houlahan 77cm *
Jordan Johnston 75cm *
Jack Petruccelle 74cm
Noah Balta 74cm
Adam Sambono 73cm
Hayden McLean 73cm
Running vertical jump
Kyron Hayden 103cm
Kane Farrell 95cm
Jordan Houlahan 95cm*
Hayden McLean 92cm
Noah Balta 89cm
Harrison Jones 88cm
Oscar Allen 88cm
Tom McCartin 88cm
Matthew Day 87cm
Nathan Kreuger 87cm *
I don't suppose Jack Graham who held his own against Sloane and kicked three goals in the big dance did last year either
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Can't wait for Jordan Houlahan to kick five goals in the GF next year
Bicks thoughts on this years draft, depth, etc?
Nothing wrong with what's on offer in the 1st Round, maybe even into the mid of 2nd round depending on the type of player your team is targeting.
The main reason from a SA point of view talking 2018 is there's likely 4 in 1st round contention, 2 right at the apex in Izak Rankine and Jack Lukosius and then Connor Rozee and Jackson Hately give every inclination they could push up for mid 1st round discussions. Then there's kids like Tom Lewis, Hugo Munn, and Luke Valente who with natural improvement might even push up into discussions.
Similar quality to last years draft you think?
On paper and disclosed form pretty similar but falls away quicker depth wise, still some decent prospects that will go later but more speculative with aspects of their game needing work to translate to AFL standards....more hit & miss.
Wish it was next year Lever and Cameron were leaving just so we could nab some of these South Aussie guys
What about the CrAzY idea that we trade our draft bounty from the upcoming draft, for 2018 picks (seeing as there is predicted alot more SA talent next year)
For example, (hypothetical)
Say we end up with 10*, 16, 18*, 34, 52, 71 + Additional 1st round 2018 (*10 + this pick from Melb for Lever and 18 for Cameron)
Based on everyone finishing in the exact same positions next year (of course this won't happen, but not gonna predict),
This would mean we already hold 10*, 16, 34, 52, 71 for 2018. (*10 in the lever deal)
We trade :
2017 pick 10: to a current bottom 4 team that has a player in mind for their future 1st round pick
2017 pick 16: to a current bottom 8 team that has a player in mind for their future 1st round pick
2017 pick 18: to a current bottom 8 team that has a player in mind for their future 1st round pick
2017 pick 34: to a current bottom 4 team that has a player in mind for their future 2nd round pick
2017 pick 52: Best Available talent OR Jackson Edwards if nominated
2017 pick 71: Best Available talent OR Jackson Edwards if nominated
Meaning we go into the 2018 AFL Draft potentially with:
4, 7, 8, 10, 16, 22, 34, 52, 71 - Blue picks estimated - could be a little higher or lower (could potentially even end up with the number 1 pick!)
Of course this scenario is not going to happen,. as we will likely need to send a 2nd round back to Melbourne for Lever and will probably do a trade for Gibbs AND it doesn't allow for any other potential 2017 moves, But would be an interesting/ballsy strategy!
The Rebel boys at the draft....
Talk is now Bonar every chance to go inside the top ten after medicals and his combine showing has dispelled doubts on his knee.
Surely this year the club may have taken a keener interest in SA talent with the loss of Dangerfield, CC and Lever over the last few years to the go home factor
If they had taken this step two years ago maybe just maybe we would see
Burton Instead of Doedee
Hayward instaed of Galluci
Graham instead of Pohlkoke
Not sure how our first 22 would be looking for next year if this was the case and forget the talent on display, none of these boys would be heading home, two of them had fathers that played SANFL footy, what were our recruiters thinking
Could've just had a chat with his old man
Sandringham Dragons' Andrew Brayshaw [6m 15s] just nuts Ballarat Rebel Aiden Domic [6m 16s] in the 2 KM time trial.
Where's results Bicks ?
One of the journalists tweeted it, Balmer maybe, can't remember now, They must have run off in groups or something because the final standings are.....Very surprising time by Miers there, wouldn't have picked him as an endurance guy did well in the other endurance test the Yo-YO too.
2km time trial
Dylan Moore (Vic Metro) 6:09 minutes
Lochie O’Brien (Vic Country) 6:12
Gryan Miers (Vic Country) 6:13
Andrew Brayshaw (Vic Metro) 6:14
Trent Mynott (Vic Metro) 6:14
Aiden Domic (Vic Country) 6:15
Changkuoth Jiath (Vic Country) 6:17
Angus Styles (Vic Metro) 6:17
Nathan Murphy (Vic Metro) 6:21
Jaidyn Stephenson (Vic Metro) 6:21
Ethan Floyd (Vic Country) 6:25
Stephenson wow he teats well plays well
Wouldn't be the worst number 1 pick just quietly but definitely top 5
Top five in this draft is great. Stephenson, LDU, Cerra, Dow, Rayner
Cerra doesn't excite me as a top 5 pick, the times I've seen him he really looked to lack decent pace and acceleration.??
Seems to be differing times by AFL Draft Central and the TAC mob
Think I'd go with the TAC of the two,interesting 2 of the bigger guys Toby Wooller and Tom McCartin tested well, don't mind what Wooller brings to the table as a Forward/Mid either.
2km time trial
Dylan Moore – 6:09 minutes (Eastern Ranges)
Lochie O’Brien – 6:12 (Bendigo Pioneers)
Gryan Miers – 6:13 (Geelong Falcons)
Andrew Brayshaw – 6:14 (Sandringham Dragons)
Aiden Domic – 6:15 (GWV Rebels)
Angus Styles – 6:17 (Sandringham Dragons)
Changkuoth Jiath – 6:17 (Gippsland Power)
Nathan Murphy – 6:21 (Sandringham Dragons)
Jaidyn Stephenson – 6:21 (Eastern Ranges)
Ethan Floyd – 6:25 (Geelong Falcons)
Jaidyn Stephenson – 6.26 (Eastern Ranges)
Toby Wooller – 6.32 (Oakleigh Chargers)
Matthew Ling – 6.34 (Geelong Falcons)
Jack Higgins – 6.34 (Oakleigh Chargers)
Brent Daniels – 6.35 (Bendigo Pioneers)
Tom McCartin – 6.35 (Geelong Falcons)
Doesn't really matter, has some serious footskills and evasiveness, which means he is extremely classy
That said, he's 5th out of the five for mine, although I still seriously rate him.
Hayes > Cerra for mine
Some more "unofficial" times from the TAC from the STATE combine..
See below some of the unofficial results* and top TAC Cup performers:
Smartspeed 20m sprint
Dylan Landt Calder Cannons 2.99
Seb Williams Sandringham Dragons 3.01
Doulton Langlands Murray Bushrangers 3.02
Joel Amartey Sandringham_Dragons 3.03
Mark Baker Northern Knights 3.04
Nick Hogan Gippsland Power 3.05
Noah Answerth Oakleigh Chargers 3.05
Jy Lane Murray Bushrangers 3.06
Lewin Davis Bendigo Pioneers 3.06
Yo Yo test
Seb Williams Sandringham Dragons 21.6
Cooper Stephens Geelong Falcons 21.6
Max Dreher North Knights 21.6
Lewin Davis Bendigo Pioneers 21.4
Quintin Montanaro Sandringham Dragons 21.2
Sam Cameron Sandringham Dragons 21
Ethan Phillips Oakleigh Chargers
Aidan Tilley Calder Cannons 21
Alex Paech Murray Bushrangers 20.6
Tristan Xerri Western Jets 20.5