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Discussion in 'Adelaide' started by Bicks, Feb 10, 2017.

Put it out there
  1. TheLeftFist8

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    I'll cope if we have an extra cup or two in the trophy cabinet!
     
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    The theatre around pick 10 vs 11 vs 12 in this years draft will provide much interest for years to come! Unlike like the Lever - Cocky comparisons, the performance of Gibbs and the Crows overall in the next 4 years adds another dimension to the debate.

    Could be a slowly escalating melt if we fail in the next 3-4 years and pick 10 ends of a gun!

    But we shouldn't judge too much in hindsight. Right now, I support the move.
     
  3. Stiffy_18

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    Oh I am pretty comfortable with the move and see very little (if any) difference between pick 10 and 12 in this draft. I am confident we will pick up at VERY VERY good player at 12. Might even end up being a better player in the long term than those picked in the 6-11 range.
     
  4. Jeffcrowe

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    My Power rankings
    1 Rayner
    2 Davies-Uniake
    3 Stephenson
    4 Hayes
    5 Dow
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    8 Bonar
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    10 Naughton
    11 A Brayshaw
    12 Higgins
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    14 H Clarke
    15 Ballenden
    16 Brander
    17 Allen
    18 Naish

    Can't understand how Rayner isn't consensus number 1
     
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  5. Jeffcrowe

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    Hately is v good . Just watch him in SA v Allies game . Not bad for a bottom ager , looked like a season veteran
     
  6. Banshee23

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    Awesome, thanks for that.
     
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    Interesting... I can’t remember what games I watched altogether, but most he seemed a bit scrappy with his disposal.

    Good vision and the decision making was there, but yeah just very poor execution.

    Guess if he’s a bottom ager there’s still plenty of wiggle room.
     
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    They said the same about GWS .... invincible they said ..... still waiting for it to happen
     
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  9. Jeffcrowe

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    I reckon GWS have peaked too

    Could be wrong though
     
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    :huh: Have you seen LDU play? .... wow !

    #1 IMO ......
     
  11. Jeffcrowe

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    Yep seen him live a few times

    Couldn't make the All Australian team

    Good player nonetheless as most no 2 picks are
     

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    Pffffttt ...... looking at underage players now is like predicting the 2019 premiers .... a waste of time

    Players that were raves about this time last year have fallen as others have improved more
     
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    Losing Mummy is huge .....
     
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    That’s fine ..... there’ll be superstars from this draft that also didn’t make the AA team
     
  15. Danger in Texas

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    2: Luke Davies-Uniacke
    3: Paddy Dow
    4: Jaidyn Stephenson
    5: Adam Cerra
    6: Andrew Brayshaw
    7: Nick Coffield
    8: Charlie Constable
    9: Aiden Bonar
    10: Hunter Clark
    11: Sam Hayes
    12: Aaron Naughton
    13: Jack Higgins
    14: Jarrod Brander
    15: Darcy Fogarty
    16: Connor Ballenden
    17: Lochie O'Brien
    18: Zac Bailey
    19: Nathan Murphy
    20: James Worpel

    Bailey probably the standout there, rate him very highly
     
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    Sweet, cheers
     
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  17. Jeffcrowe

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    But you know that's not right

    Why are we trading into early picks next year ? Because we watch these kids

    Might be a waste of time for you to take notice but doesn't mean for everyone
     
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    To be fair, we could have said the same about Brisbane/Richmond trading into this year’s draft

    But do agree that our recruiters must see something ‘at this stage’
     
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    Yes Jeff, it's a waste of time mate .....trading of early picks is more in acknowledgement of the Drafts strength than a particular player .....there wouldn't be a club that would tie itself to a player this far out, he may not develop .....others may overtake the "stars" of next year as they stand now

    This time last year Coleman-Jones was the star ......where's he ranked now ?

    This statement of "we've watched the kids" is the biggest load of hogwash around ......counts for little, other than their application to the game & mental attitude .......if Bonar doesn't play the "Stars" game recently, he'd be ranked in the 20's ......but one good game & suddenly he's talked about as top 10 ......talk about fickled recruiting

    Another example: Damien Martin last contract was "hawked around" .....absolutely no-one wanted him !!! .......3 years later clubs were crawling over cut-glass to get him & prepared to pay 3 times the amount .......Jeff you give clubs way too much credit for thinking they know what they're doing (generalization)
     
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    Adelaides strenght has come from outside opportuniies of our perceived best 22

    JJ,Jacobs, Betts Lynch Gibbs Seedsman hampton Gibson from other clubs

    Hartigan,Greenwood, Laird , Kelly all rookies which are a punt as you would have taken in the ND if you had confidence in them

    Tex (Acadamy pick)

    Sloane, Crouch, Crouch, Atkins, Brown Talia , Knight, Milera, Douglas

    Its a very mixed team with only 9 ND picks and are we concerned at retaining sloane and the crouch boys
     
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    Looks like he's no chance for pick 12.
     
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    I agree in principal that we watch the kids, but I dont think we traded into 2018 just because we rated 4 or 5 SA individuals in particular.

    We would have to rate the draft crop as a whole to be invested in next year. I completely agree it is worth watching the kids, but it isn't worth predicting where they may go within ~5 places more than a year from the draft.
     
  23. Jeffcrowe

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    And I certainly don't think it's worth locking in their spots and rating their positions either

    Apparently we've invested into next years draft because it's strong overall but also strong for SA kids
     
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    Still plenty worth it to track a kid's development. Gives a greater understanding of what the kids can do, although it definitely doesn't impact the draft order as much as the draft year form itself.
     
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    That's all very well ......so explain why Lever (who was also followed by recruiters) fell from the top 3-4 ranked to 14th on the back of one Knee Reco .........yet you're saying (and every year there's an over-hyped player) that Bonar on the back of two Knee Reco's & 7 games of footy in two years is rising within the top 10 ???????????????????????????

    If i am a club i'll take a risk, as Hawthorn did with Burton at #19 ......but i am not taking that same risk with a top 10 pick .......wasn't Burton another example of a top 5 ranked player falling after injury ??????

    Bonar may have great talent .....but as a top 10 that's a HUGE risk that there's been no club has so far demonstrated they're prepared to take ;)