List Mgmt. 2017 Draft Needs...

[BunjiMac]

Buckenara isn't still recruiting for an AFL team is he?

Didn't he used to work for the Hawks?

 

[baldandbroke]

Left the Hawks about 3 years ago to take a position here as General Manager Of Football for the Ballarat Roosters VFL Team but was let go in December 2016 when the Club ran into deep financial strife, must say I've not seen him at any U18 matches I've attended for yonks so not sure he'd be in the loop any more to be a go to man on draft talent. Other than the pro recruiters I'd say Matt Balmer from AFL Draft Central sees more than most with regards to live TAC Cup, the Vic Private School games and U18's Championship games.

Coolio ... Matt has us taking Fogarty in his early Phantom

https://www.afldraftcentral.com.au/2017/10/19/matt-balmers-2017-early-phantom-draft/

Interesting that he has Fogarty at 15 behind Bonar and Clark in his power rankings.

https://www.afldraftcentral.com.au/2017/10/09/matt-balmers-2017-afl-draft-october-power-rankings/

 

[WaynesWorld19]

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2017-06-26/u18-cal-twomeys-top10-draft-prospects

 

[Apsaalooke]

And for the record those that think Carlton/SOS will take Fogarty before us...... I don't think he will given his penchant for lads that come through the Victorian Private School System which includes almost all the Victorian high end talent.

We should have waited an hour or two and given Carlton 12 and 16 rather than 10 and 16 for Gibbs

 

[dogs105]

We should have waited an hour or two and given Carlton 12 and 16 rather than 10 and 16 for Gibbs

10 and 12 on the cards then...

 

[BunjiMac]

10 and 12 on the cards then...

Only if you agree to it.

Surely you have to some sort of backbone to be in this trading business??

 

[betterthanu]

Imagine if Ben Simmons had taken up football instead of basketball.

He would be out of pocket hundreds of millions of dollars over his lifetime.

 

[BunjiMac]

He would be out of pocket hundreds of millions of dollars over his lifetime.

No doubt, but he'd be a monster on the footy field.

 

[Ozzie]

I personal feeling is we badly need a quality young ruckman. I don't think ROB or Hunter are good enough so my pick would be Sam Hayes if he was there or CCJ. Fogarty I think will be long gone. I'm the first to admit I have no detailed knowledge of the kids but I just go on where I perceive there to be a weakness on our list.
We have 3 very good young mids in the SANFL coming along very nicely in Gallucci, Poholke and Signarello. With Gibbs coming in we are now set for mids in my view. Likewise defenders. Nice mix we have back there and waiting to come in.

 

[GROTTO]

That really isn't helping things.

Yep, no way absolutely in hell will he be around at pick 12. Maybe a chance at 10. A lot of phantom drafts have him gone at 5 taken by Freo.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Has Alex Keith been upgraded? I'm sure Greenwood has as he was on a Contract.

 

[Apsaalooke]

Hamish will know who our targets in the draft are and I'm sure he would have been in the loop and consulted right through the trade period.......and surprise, surprise unlike the group think on here Fogarty might not be his preferred No.1 target and even if he is he'd have a pretty fair idea who the other interested clubs were and where their picks fall. One things for sure and certain Hamish and his team would have watched a whole bloody lot more of Fogarty than anyone on here to form their opinion on.

I wish he'd watched more of Burton (yes I know they didn't pick him because of Matthew Liptak's medical report)

 

[bigman]

I wonder given Smith’s injury and undertaking due diligence we would give Chris Yarran a call to see how he is travelling. If fit in mind and body he could be a wonderful fit for us off the half back flank. He would be a risk but might come relatively cheap and he could reunite with eddy. Everything would need to be right though

 

[Ozzie]

Ruckmen usually only go in the first round if they look outstanding i.e Nick Nat and for today's game that usually means athletic and perceived X Factor.....I don't really see Hayes or CCJ in that vein although they are both handy up forward and I'd be disappointed if we used a 1st Round pick on a Ruckman personally. Get better value drafting a guy like Lloyd Meek who will go late or in the Rookie Draft who also played 3 games of VFL for the Ballarat Roosters coming up against AFL listed Ruckman and more than holding his own making the bests on 2 occasions as well as being a dominant Ruckman in the TAC Comp. A lot of the better Ruckmen have actually come off the Rookie list.

You make a compelling argument, but we have been trying that route with ROB and Hunter for a fail IMO. The 2 kids I mentioned are the pick of this year's bunch by all reports. I think it's time to perhaps reach a bit and take one this year and let ROB or Hunter go. If we were to take one late Meek is obvious choice but there would be the real possibility someone would take him before our pick 77. I watched this years championships and Hayes really stood out to my eye. CCJ is not that far below him so either of those 2 would be my pick.

 

[grundog49]

I wonder given Smith’s injury and undertaking due diligence we would give Chris Yarran a call to see how he is travelling. If fit in mind and body he could be a wonderful fit for us off the half back flank. He would be a risk but might come relatively cheap and he could reunite with eddy. Everything would need to be right though

I just choked in my food. Getting Chris Yarran now would be the worst move in AFL history. Waste of a rookie spot if we got him on the list.

 

[grundog49]

You make a compelling argument, but we have been trying that route with ROB and Hunter for a fail IMO. The 2 kids I mentioned are the pick of this year's bunch by all reports. I think it's time to perhaps reach a bit and take one this year and let ROB or Hunter go. If we were to take one late Meek is obvious choice but there would be the real possibility someone would take him before our pick 77. I watched this years championships and Hayes really stood out to my eye. CCJ is not that far below him so either of those 2 would be my pick.

I think ROB is actually a solid back up ruckman on the list but I do agree on the Hunter call that he won't make the grade. CCJ would be the one id look at closely because he's a local boy and also has a fair bit of talent in the ruck and up forward. Love his mobility and marking prowess.

 

[1990crow]

Whilst we are on the topic of ruckman.. never ever take a Ruck in the first round unless they are NicNat. Or around picks 18-20.

Rookie a newby this year and cut Hunter will be the plan.

 

[Brentmeister]

I personal feeling is we badly need a quality young ruckman. I don't think ROB or Hunter are good enough so my pick would be Sam Hayes if he was there or CCJ. Fogarty I think will be long gone. I'm the first to admit I have no detailed knowledge of the kids but I just go on where I perceive there to be a weakness on our list.
We have 3 very good young mids in the SANFL coming along very nicely in Gallucci, Poholke and Signarello. With Gibbs coming in we are now set for mids in my view. Likewise defenders. Nice mix we have back there and waiting to come in.

Never use an early pick on a ruckman!

 

[Thetrader15]

I've only seen highlights but any chance Higgins is still available at 12?

Small, but seems to have good pace and hands. Can't do much more than win the Morish medal! Might even play a few ganes next year as a small fwd

 

[Squiba]

I've only seen highlights but any chance Higgins is still available at 12?

Small, but seems to have good pace and hands. Can't do much more than win the Morish medal! Might even play a few ganes next year as a small fwd

Some phantoms have him all the way down at 15. I think he would be ideal for GWS tbh, and they should take him.

I would be happy if we got him with 12. Like a Blue-chip Toby Greene in future imo. Should take Cameron's role almost immediately, in which case I'm not sure if Knight holds a spot over Gooch...

 

[Brentmeister]

Hypothetical for ya Bicks, if Fogarty had done his ACL at the start of the year like Lever did (as opposed to battling on with a meniscus tear), where would he be rated now? I wonder if his stock has dropped a bit by putting in some average performances when he could've sat out and rested the knee?

 

[grundog49]

Pick 12???

Every time I've watched CCJ in the Ruck he doesn't look to have much of a natural leap on him usually using bodywork more so than leap, not really sure that will translate into being a top Ruck in the AFL against the bigger bodies and some of the more athletic Ruckmen like Ryder, Grundy , Nick Nat, Martin etc he'll be up against in the AFL system. Wouldn't be against taking him with pick 39 if still on the board but pick 12 is a stretch too far for me.

No I'm talking late draft bahahaha. No ruck this year is worth pick 12 unless you count Ballenden as a ruck and even that is a stretch.

 

[ad victoriam]

I personal feeling is we badly need a quality young ruckman. I don't think ROB or Hunter are good enough so my pick would be Sam Hayes if he was there or CCJ. Fogarty I think will be long gone. I'm the first to admit I have no detailed knowledge of the kids but I just go on where I perceive there to be a weakness on our list.
We have 3 very good young mids in the SANFL coming along very nicely in Gallucci, Poholke and Signarello. With Gibbs coming in we are now set for mids in my view. Likewise defenders. Nice mix we have back there and waiting to come in.

Wait a year and push for Scott Lycett. Restricted Free agent.

 

[BRL121]

Following Charlie leaving, we are down on X-factor and speed. I have no knowledge of the draft pool. Can anyone here (Bicks?) point out the best prospects with X-factor and/or speed in this draft?

 

[Thetrader15]

Nathan Kreuger - South Adelaide Panthers [Athletic Utility] or Charlie Ballard - Sturt F.C. [Tall Wingman/Half Back]

Little bit of Jarred Brennan about Kreuger IMO - Except it looks like he has good hands