2017 Draft - Pick 30

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Menegola was a pick 66. That should see a few revise where they think such mature-aged players should be drafted.

Anyone picking one before #40 is taking a serious risk with their list.

I wasn't talking about pick 30 although I acknowledge that Tim Kelly may be a chance there. I posted about Kelly and mentioned Schloithe because of the 3 draft pick threads, this is the lowest pick and seemed most appropriate to discuss later picks rather than start a #73 or rookie draft thread.

 

[Pafloyul]

Was a quick half forward flanker in 2011 when first rookied. Has reinvented himself as an inside mid, tackling machine with scoreboard impact and 77% disposal which is elite for the position. Looks like a real bull.

I think SOS grabbed #30 to go for Sandover runner up Tim Kelly but I'd be happy with Schloithe the Sandover winner with #73.

We don't do mature aged recruits anywhere near enough for mine.

They could draft one or two every once in a while but "anywhere near enough" is a bit of a stretch. Players have to be available worth taking or you are just picking them for the sake of it.

 

[Jimmae]

I wasn't talking about pick 30 although I acknowledge that Tim Kelly may be a chance there. I posted about Kelly and mentioned Schloithe because of the 3 draft pick threads, this is the lowest pick and seemed most appropriate to discuss later picks rather than start a #73 or rookie draft thread.

Oh at #73? I don't think he'll be there if Freo or West Coast think he's AFL ready, as they have 60, 66, 69 and 71, but sure he's a chance.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Oh at #73? I don't think he'll be there if Freo or West Coast think he's AFL ready, as they have 60, 66, 69 and 71, but sure he's a chance.

That is my feeling too. It would have been good to have another pick before that. Would suit the midfield age profile gap that's for sure.

 

[The Bighouse]

That is my feeling too. It would have been good to have another pick before that. Would suit the midfield age profile gap that's for sure.

#58 was there...

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

They could draft one or two every once in a while but "anywhere near enough" is a bit of a stretch. Players have to be available worth taking or you are just picking them for the sake of it.

You can't define 'anywhere near enough' to ascertain it is a stretch. A few clubs have found gold with mature age recruits of late. It's a viable approach with more exposed form against physically developed bodies. I don't feel we look around at these types as much as we could. Boekhorst was one. Duigan maybe the one before that. I can see scope to pick up one every year or two to address an area of need and potentially be ready to go immediately.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

#58 was there...

Can't complain. We did well with our trades.

 

[The Bighouse]

You can't define anywhere near enough to ascertain it is a stretch. A few clubs have found gold with mature age recruits of late. It's a viable approach with more exposed form against physically developed bodies. I don't feel we look around at these types as much as we could. Boekhorst was one. Duigan maybe the one before that. I can see scope to pick up one every year or two to address an area of need and potentially be ready to go immediately.

Sam Rowe too. Saad, Lambert & Marcon were in our own backyard.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Sam Rowe too. Saad, Lambert & Marcon we’re in our own backyard.

Forgot about Rowe.

I also think it would be good practice to pick up a Northern Blues player every year. It will make the Northern Blues an attractive proposition for recruiting players and strengthen the team and development of our listed youngsters.

Cam O'Shea doesn't fill a need for us really but he is looking for another shot and may go to another VFL club to get it. He is deserving.

 

[The Bighouse]

Forgot about Rowe.

I also think it would be good practice to pick up a Northern Blues player every year. It will make the Northern Blues an attractive proposition for recruiting players and strengthen the team and development of our listed youngsters.

Agree, and there is talk of O’Shea being in-line for the rookie list this year.

Menegola is an interesting one, 2 AFL clubs and back to a different WAFL club where he dominated. The previous AFL drafting and subsequent learning from de-listing can bode well for some as they mature.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Agree, and there is talk of O’Shea being in-line for the rookie list this year.

Menegola is an interesting one, 2 AFL clubs and back to a different WAFL club where he dominated. The previous AFL drafting and subsequent learning from de-listing can bode well for some as they mature.

Mind you we jumped the gun getting Cachia back a second time. Perhaps it was on our system though.

 

[ParapMarkets]

Menegola was a pick 66. That should see a few revise where they think such mature-aged players should be drafted.

Anyone picking one before #40 is taking a serious risk with their list.

I think he is a huge chance to be taken at our pick 30 if he is still there. Most Eagles fans want him at their pick in the twenties before ours. It was interesting reading Bishop stating he is a chance for North at pick 23.

It will all depend on what is available of course but citing one example doesn’t make it a strict rule.

 

[Jimmae]

I think he is a huge chance to be taken at our pick 30 if he is still there. Most Eagles fans want him at their pick in the twenties before ours. It was interesting reading Bishop stating he is a chance for North at pick 23.

It will all depend on what is available of course but citing one example doesn’t make it a strict rule.

Supporters want instant impact, and they suddenly see these guys performing in the lower leagues as automatic locks from 25 onwards.

It never works that way, because in the case of Kelly and Schloithe they've had an extra 6 years to get themselves ready for the system, and that's assuming they haven't been on a list before (Schloithe has).

The draft depth is good, and their performances are not so far and away above state level to suggest they should be taken so early. Take a look at our initial Phantom Draft to get an idea on the junior talent, and you'll see that there's a lot to be said for picking 24 year old state league players before pick 40.

Kelly @ 37 is the first I can see happening.

 

[ParapMarkets]

Supporters want instant impact, and they suddenly see these guys performing in the lower leagues as automatic locks from 25 onwards.

It never works that way, because in the case of Kelly and Schloithe they've had an extra 6 years to get themselves ready for the system, and that's assuming they haven't been on a list before (Schloithe has).

The draft depth is good, and their performances are not so far and away above state level to suggest they should be taken so early. Take a look at our initial Phantom Draft to get an idea on the junior talent, and you'll see that there's a lot to be said for picking 24 year old state league players before pick 40.

Kelly @ 37 is the first I can see happening.

We'll see I guess. I have no idea as to the depth of this years draft (looking at an amateurs phantom draft isn't really going to persuade me on draft depth) so I am only going by what others have said regarding how deep the talent pool is. He wouldn't have been selected near pick 30 last year, I just feel that he might this year. It will obviously depend on how the other clubs pick, but I wouldn't be that surprised if we take him at 30.

 

[Jimmae]

We'll see I guess. I have no idea as to the depth of this years draft (looking at an amateurs phantom draft isn't really going to persuade me on draft depth) so I am only going by what others have said regarding how deep the talent pool is. He wouldn't have been selected near pick 30 last year, I just feel that he might this year. It will obviously depend on how the other clubs pick, but I wouldn't be that surprised if we take him at 30.

I think what we're seeing right now is the result of a big PR push for the WA Football Commission, starting with the release of their structural review earlier this year, culminating in millions in funding from governments and the AFL.

So there's a lot of buzz around WA football at the moment, and that combined with the continued PR push has some people overvaluing their prospects within the draft pool. That's not to say that they aren't some of the strongest mature-aged prospects, but they simply aren't worth a top 40 pick given the 18 months they'll likely need to get up to speed from an athletic perspective.

Harry Taylor (pick 17) and Marcus Adams (pick 35) are exceptions to this, but both possess immense athleticism for their size, and were dropped into defence in an era where tall defenders don't really cover as many kilometres. They were also 20 and 22 respectively at the time they were drafted.

 

[RudyBlue]

I think what we're seeing right now is the result of a big PR push for the WA Football Commission, starting with the release of their structural review earlier this year, culminating in millions in funding from governments and the AFL.

So there's a lot of buzz around WA football at the moment, and that combined with the continued PR push has some people overvaluing their prospects within the draft pool. That's not to say that they aren't some of the strongest mature-aged prospects, but they simply aren't worth a top 40 pick given the 18 months they'll likely need to get up to speed from an athletic perspective.

Harry Taylor (pick 17) and Marcus Adams (pick 35) are exceptions to this, but both possess immense athleticism for their size, and were dropped into defence in an era where tall defenders don't really cover as many kilometres. They were also 20 and 22 respectively at the time they were drafted.

What are your thoughts on Matt Guelfi?

 

[TerryWallet]

I think what we're seeing right now is the result of a big PR push for the WA Football Commission, starting with the release of their structural review earlier this year, culminating in millions in funding from governments and the AFL.

So there's a lot of buzz around WA football at the moment, and that combined with the continued PR push has some people overvaluing their prospects within the draft pool. That's not to say that they aren't some of the strongest mature-aged prospects, but they simply aren't worth a top 40 pick given the 18 months they'll likely need to get up to speed from an athletic perspective.

Harry Taylor (pick 17) and Marcus Adams (pick 35) are exceptions to this, but both possess immense athleticism for their size, and were dropped into defence in an era where tall defenders don't really cover as many kilometres. They were also 20 and 22 respectively at the time they were drafted.

Spot on i reckon. Have been thinking the same.

 

[Jimmae]

What are your thoughts on Matt Guelfi?

Good side step, can kick and tested well for repeat efforts, but lacks acceleration and can't really break tackles.

Didn't make a dent last year as an overager in the Colts, and nothing's really changed in that respect as far as I know.

 

[BluesRule]

Menegola was a pick 66. That should see a few revise where they think such mature-aged players should be drafted.

Anyone picking one before #40 is taking a serious risk with their list.

Agree Jimmae, we should draft at least 3 kids with our first three picks.

Where is the poll for pick #30 You may need 40+ names, but if you exclude the most unlikely ones (other and name it in the text) it could be a great challenge to pick it. And we all love a challenge...

Imagine the poll for pick #73

 

[RoyalParade]

Any Chance constable slides to 30?

 

[Old navy]

Any Chance constable slides to 30?

With big bodied 190cm+ Inside midfielders in such high demand ATM, clubs that are lacking them will take him in heart beat, just off the top of my head, Westcoast, North and Brisbane are all lacking this type of player, I'm thinking Westcoast at pick 13 is a big chance.

 

[Inzy7]

Would love Tim Kelly or Liam Ryan with this pick!

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Agree Jimmae, we should draft at least 3 kids with our first three picks

At least...? You mean there’s a way to draft more than 3 kids with 3 picks?

 

[Funk]

At least...? You mean there’s a way to draft more than 3 kids with 3 picks?

You know SOS loves a "2 for 1" deal....

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Why has Worpel slid in most phantoms from a lock 1st round pick at the start of the year to now being likely to go in the 40s.