List Mgmt. 2017 Draft Prospects

[Royal Doulton]

In my view our targets at p.9 would be Coffield, Fogarty, Brander, Higgins...
All depends who's available when we are up..

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[doggies ftw]

Cal Twomey and other draft journos categorically undersell his pace. All year they've been saying he has a "turn of pace", nothing more. They also like to write about his "solid skills" despite being the best kick in this year's draft, in my opinon.

Yeah that's the impression I was getting from him, that He had a bit of pace but wasn't overly quick. 2.91 is some serious speed off the mark. Am I right in thinking that a lot of people see him as developing into an inside mid, or at least his inside game is pretty good? Don't know a whole lot about the class but geez I'm pretty keen on him from what I've read.

 

[Yojimbo]

List Placings (Current)

Adel- 6 x out, 2 x in = 4 places, picks- 12, 39, 77, 109.
Bris- 6 x out, 2 x in = 4 places, picks- 1, 15, 18, 40, (44, 52)
Carl- 7 x out, 3 x in = 4 places, picks- 3, 10, 30, 73.
Coll- 2 x out, 1 x in = 1 place, picks- 6, (38, 56, 61, 70)
Ess- 4 x out, 3 x in = 1 place, picks- 48, (67, 85) Yuck.
Freo- 9 x out, 2 x in = 7 places, picks- 2, 5, 42, 60, 66, 71, 79.
Geel- 5 x out, 1 x in = 4 places, picks- 22, 24, 35, 58.
GC- 4 x out, 3 x in = 1 place, picks- 19, (41, 50, 54 )
GWS- 6 x out, 0 x in = 6 places, picks- 11, 27, 28, 57, 65, 89.
Haw- 2 x out, 1 x in = 1 place, picks- 43, (68, 75, 81) Yuck.
Melb- 7 x out, 2 x in = 5 places, picks- 29, 31, 36, 47, 84.
North- 4 x out, 0 x in = 4 places, picks- 4, 23, 64, 78.
Port- 8 x out, 3 x in = 5 places, picks- 46, 49, 59, 62, 63.
Rich- 5 x out, 0 x in = 5 places, picks- 17, 20, 25, 53, 55.
Naish + 3 rookie upgrades = 1 live pick.
StK- 5 x out, 1 x in = 4 places, picks- 7, 8, 34, 45.
Syd-4 x out, 0 x in = 4 places, picks- 14, 33, 51, 88.
WC- 4 x out, 1 x in = 3 places, picks- 13, 21, 26, (32, 37, 69)
Dogs- 4 x out, 3 x in = 1 place, picks- 9, (16, 82) Yuck.

So as it stands lots of cutting to do for some clubs to use
their picks, unused in brackets.

 

[goodcop badcop]

Yeah that's the impression I was getting from him, that He had a bit of pace but wasn't overly quick. 2.91 is some serious speed off the mark. Am I right in thinking that a lot of people see him as developing into an inside mid, or at least his inside game is pretty good? Don't know a whole lot about the class but geez I'm pretty keen on him from what I've read.

He played a lot on the ball for the Northern Knights towards the last half of the year. I'll be very surprised if he ends up as an inside mid, he isn't physical enough and likes to stay off the pack. He will go in when it's his turn but that's all. Not sure why you would want to turn him into an inside mid anyway. He looks so much more damaging with a bit more time and space.

 

[Gollo]

Yeah that's the impression I was getting from him, that He had a bit of pace but wasn't overly quick. 2.91 is some serious speed off the mark. Am I right in thinking that a lot of people see him as developing into an inside mid, or at least his inside game is pretty good? Don't know a whole lot about the class but geez I'm pretty keen on him from what I've read.

There's quite a bit of speculation about him moving into the midfield but as it stands, he hasn't shown really consistent production as a midfielder. He shouldn't be drafted based on any potential midfield move - he's a worthwhile enough selection as a general defender/outside midfielder.

I'd consider it unlikely that he makes any major shift into an inside midfielder in his AFL career, but it's a possibility.

 

[Royal Doulton]

My understanding is Coffield & Brander are the two we will likely consider at 9 based on sequence of picks etc.. Mail is Coffield likely gone at 6,7,8.. so Brander looks to be the one at 9 for us..

 

[CaptainMurphy]

My understanding is Coffield & Brander are the two we will likely consider at 9 based on sequence of picks etc.. Mail is Coffield likely gone at 6,7,8.. so Brander looks to be the one at 9 for us..

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Let's hope Collingwood take Brander then.

This is something you've heard form someone you know or stuff you've picked up from around here?

 

[Royal Doulton]

Let's hope Collingwood take Brander then.

This is something you've heard form someone you know or stuff you've picked up from around here?

Something I have heard from a solid contact....

Much to play out still obviously with Clubs in front of us..

 

[Royal Doulton]

Let's hope Collingwood take Brander then.

This is something you've heard form someone you know or stuff you've picked up from around here?

Coffield & Brander the only names they offered up...

Interestingly also said Schache was a last minute decision quite literally...

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Coffield & Brander the only names they offered up...

Interestingly also said Schache was a last minute decision quite literally...

The Schache thing doesn't surprise me, some of the media suggested the same.

 

[Wizard17]

Let's hope Collingwood take Brander then.

+1

I really don't like what Brander has done this year. Don't think that we need him either with who we have traded in and drafted in recent years.

Would much rather we went with midfielders or half backs in the main draft and small and mid forwards in the rookie draft.

As I said before if we could get one or both of the December boys as rookies I'd be happy.

Main draft - Coffield + Richards/Constable/Bonar

Rookie draft - D'arcy and Trusler

That is what I want.

 

[goodcop badcop]

I hope we don't go anywhere near D'arcy. Screams state league player to me, not enough tricks to make it at the next level.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

+1

I really don't like what Brander has done this year. Don't think that we need him either with who we have traded in and drafted in recent years.

Would much rather we went with midfielders or half backs in the main draft and small and mid forwards in the rookie draft.

As I said before if we could get one or both of the December boys as rookies I'd be happy.

Main draft - Coffield + Richards/Constable/Bonar

Rookie draft - D'arcy and Trusler

That is what I want.

Dream pairing for me, assuming (like I do) that Murphy is gone by 16.

Part of me thinks it'd be hilarious though if after all these years we are finally stacked for talls and we reach for one with our first top 10 pick in ages. Almost enough to want to see it. Almost.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

+1

I really don't like what Brander has done this year. Don't think that we need him either with who we have traded in and drafted in recent years.

Would much rather we went with midfielders or half backs in the main draft and small and mid forwards in the rookie draft.

As I said before if we could get one or both of the December boys as rookies I'd be happy.

Main draft - Coffield + Richards/Constable/Bonar

Rookie draft - D'arcy and Trusler

That is what I want.

Out if interest, if Richards/Constable/Bonar/whoever else you like is off the board, how would you feel about Brander at 16? I'll admit, with the faith I have in Dal, if he picked him there I'd warm to the idea. Would also potentially upset Richmond fans who would be hoping he's there at 17.

 

[Wizard17]

I hope we don't go anywhere near D'arcy. Screams state league player to me, not enough tricks to make it at the next level.

He is one of the most natural looking forwards I've seen this year. He has the body size, 1v1 and lead up work, goal sense and selflessness just needs to work on the endurance and a bit of the ground level work (has pretty good hands already).

Reckon with his Decemeber b'day he'll top out around 191-192cm so he would be playing third tall.

I'd rather have a natural forward than some Frankenstein-like athletic concoction.

 

[Wizard17]

Out if interest, if Richards/Constable/Bonar/whoever else you like is off the board, how would you feel about Brander at 16? I'll admit, with the faith I have in Dal, if he picked him there I'd warm to the idea. Would also potentially upset Richmond fans who would be hoping he's there at 17.

I'd feel about the same as the Collins pick. I'd be supportive of it but have reservations about it.

 

[goodcop badcop]

He is one of the most natural looking forwards I've seen this year. He has the body size, 1v1 and lead up work, goal sense and selflessness just needs to work on the endurance and a bit of the ground level work (has pretty good hands already).

Reckon with his Decemeber b'day he'll top out around 191-192cm so he would be playing third tall.

I'd rather have a natural forward than some Frankenstein-like athletic concoction.

He's pretty one dimensional Wiz. His ground level needs work as you said and doesn't do much up the ground.

I'm very unconvinced.

 

[goodcop badcop]

So this is what people have us taking on other websites

Fox sports - Fogarty & Clark

The Roar - Coffield & Balta

Draft central - Cerra & Richards

Twomey has us considering Coffield, Clark, Naughton & Brayshaw

I don't like it but we do seem to be linked to Clark a bit.

 

[hatescaptcha]

Not enough Bonar in this thread.

 

[Bazza28]

Not enough Bonar in this thread.

That’s what she said

 

[Wizard17]

He's pretty one dimensional Wiz. His ground level needs work as you said and doesn't do much up the ground.

I'm very unconvinced.

Depends on his character really. He has had games this year where he has pushed up the ground a bit and seemed to do it more as the year went on. Go with the forwards we think have the right attitude to work on their problems.

Not trying to say that I really 100% want D'arcy but I want a natural goal kicking 3rd marking option as much as a natural small forward.

I remember reading an article in which D'arcy sounded very level headed.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

So this is what people have us taking on other websites

Fox sports - Fogarty & Clark

The Roar - Coffield & Balta

Draft central - Cerra & Richards

Twomey has us considering Coffield, Clark, Naughton & Brayshaw

I don't like it but we do seem to be linked to Clark a bit.

Matt Balmer looking after us

 

[Wizard17]

Here is that article I was talking about. Sounds like he has worked hard to get where he is. Seems to have a really layed back personality.

http://dandenong.starcommunity.com.au/journal/2017-05-19/what-will-be-will-be-says-darcy/

Spoiler

Riley D’Arcy is a powerful, imposing forward cut from the same cloth as St Kilda sharpshooter Tim Membrey.

The 17-year-old, who plays his footy with the Rowville Hawks and the Dandenong Stingrays in the TAC Cup, shares some startling similarities with the dangerous marking forward, who averages almost two goals per games across his 38-game AFL career to date.

They both stand just a tick under 190cm, and despite not being conventional power forwards, have a natural knack of kicking bags of goals and taking commanding contested marks with their bulky frame.

“I’m that medium type forward, quite Tim Membrey like and will play key if they need me to be, but usually I’m encouraged to go up the ground and play across half-forward,” he said.

“My contested marking in all areas of the ground is my greatest strength – I’m playing that centre half forward role and deep if needed – I wouldn’t mind playing a bit of midfield, that’d be good, too.”

In six games of the TAC Cup this season, D’Arcy has kicked 12 goals – including a five-goal-haul against Calder Cannons, a performance that included three contested marks and 15 disposals.

He first caught the eye in 2017 when playing the Vic Country trials in April – where he is part of the initial squad – with a brilliant performance in the second Vic Metro v Vic Country match.

D’Arcy collected 19 disposals, six marks (two contested), three inside 50s, four goals and a score assist, forcing the recruiters watching to reshuffle their boards and find out more.

But right when the momentum was all steaming his way, he was struck down by an unfortunate case of appendicitis, where he is set to still be on the sidelines for some time still.

“I had my appendix out last Tuesday night – it’s been a bit sore – it’ll probably be about another three weeks out at this stage,” he said.

Although D’Arcy is now shining up forward, he was initially knocked back from the Stingrays, forcing him to work harder and even change local clubs.

“I didn’t play Under 16s at the Stingrays in 2015 – I didn’t get the invite down – I didn’t think I’d make it, but kept working and, yeah, got there in the end when I received a letter as a bottom-age player,” he said.

“I played most of my junior footy at Narre Warren, and then made the move to Rowville in Under 15s – it’s a great club and part of the reason why I’m even at the Stingrays now.”

Outside of football, D’Arcy is a student – currently in Year 11 and looking to get into the trade industry down the track.

“I’m doing VCAL at Rowville Secondary College, and then on Wednesday’s at TAFE doing carpentry, which is great for me,” he said.

But his definitive dream and one that consumes him is to have his name read out in November’s AFL Draft, but he won’t let the pressures that sometimes come with the year faze him.

“Well, the obvious goal is to get drafted, but if that doesn’t happen then, hopefully, I will get the chance to get a VFL pre-season and start my journey – I don’t really feel the pressure to be honest; I just take everything as it goes,” he said.

“I’m just hoping to make the final squad (Vic Country), but I’m not too fussed if I don’t, it’s not the end of the world – I’m still at the Stingrays and if I keep playing good games the rest will take care of itself.

As for his teammates at the Stingrays, he said the trio of Oscar Clavarino, Luke Davies-Uniacke and Hunter Clark are all massive chances of going fairly high in the draft.

“It’s pretty exciting to see those three do what they do (on field) – I’m great mates with all of them and, hopefully, they all get picked up, but they are just great guys and footballers” he said

 

[giblj]

I'd be pretty flat if we took Brander at 9

 

[goodcop badcop]

Depends on his character really. He has had games this year where he has pushed up the ground a bit and seemed to do it more as the year went on. Go with the forwards we think have the right attitude to work on their problems.

Not trying to say that I really 100% want D'arcy but I want a natural goal kicking 3rd marking option as much as a natural small forward.

I remember reading an article in which D'arcy sounded very level headed.

It's got nothing to do with character in regards to what I'm saying, I just don't think he has the talent to make it. Perhaps if he had some sort of impressive athletic attribute, I might be willing to take a punt. But unfortunately, I think he'll just fall into the dreaded Matthew Panos territory.

I have no problem with us taking a 3rd tall marking option by the way, I just don't think we should take D'arcy. I guess we will have to agree to disagree though.