List Mgmt. 2017 Draft Prospects

[goodcop badcop]

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

I don’t think I’ll be happy at the end of the first round of the draft tomorrow night.

Isn’t Easton Wood our intercept defender? Can’t Lewis Young perform that role as well? Aren’t we keeping Smith on the list because we have hope he can do similar?

Spend pick 9 on Naughton, watch him and his loopy hospital pass kicking and then after two years watch him ask to go to Collingwood and we take a third rounder.

Pick Bonar and give ourselves a point of difference.

 

[goodcop badcop]

If we pick Naughton and Ballard at pick 9 & 16, surely we will be the tallest team in the AFL.

 

[Gollo]

What the actual **** is going on now?

 

[Testekill]

It's pretty sad when you can say that Cordy is a better user of the ball than Naughton.

 

[hatescaptcha]

Would love Charlie Ballard, he’s an exciting prospect. 195cm wingman who can also play back or forward - don’t grow on trees.


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[True Dog]

If we pick Naughton and Ballard at pick 9 & 16, surely we will be the tallest team in the AFL.

Not sure I'd like to be Caleb Daniel in the showers??

 

[Igloo]

Is Higgins a forward expected to be a mid? Just a short mid? Or a forward who might never make it to being a mid?

I'd like us to get a small forward.

 

[Gollo]

Would love Charlie Ballard, he’s an exciting prospect. 195cm wingman who can also play back or forward - don’t grow on trees.


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People get so enamoured by any tall prospect with athleticism who can play somewhere other than just as a KPP. Ballard has been so overrated just because he can pick up a ball off the ground and is 195cm. None of his traits, if he were 185cm, would put him in certain draft contention. He's a safe ball-user, capable above his head and clean at ground level. Good for him. Has he shown really impressive production at any level this year? No. Has he proven himself at SANFL league level? No. Is there any benefit to have 195cm outside midfielders, really? No.

I couldn't give a shit if a genuine wingman was 165cm so long as they played the role well. The whole point of being a wingman is that you can transfer the ball from end to end creatively, effectively and with pace, as well as being able to run exceptionally in transition on defence. Having height doesn't assist any of this. It only makes you more capable in aerial contests, which aren't the domain of outside runners.

I actually think Ballard is a fine prospect. I reckon there's a good chance he'll have some sort of success at AFL level with his versatility and general ability. Still, the fact that he's in contention for pick 16 is ridiculous and driven so much by the fact that he's 195cm and not a KPP.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Still, the fact that he's in contention for pick 16 is ridiculous and driven so much by the fact that he's 195cm and not a KPP.

Have you ever known Dalrymple to get seduced by one or two good attributes or "fads?" Genuine question. I would suggest, based on his history, that if Ballard is in contention for an early pick owned by us, that we view him as having more to his game than simply being a tall mid.

 

[The Inbetweener]

frustrating to think if the Saints lost by 10 less points in the last round we would have pick 8, not 9!

 

[Charlie Bucket]

My early prediction was Ballard with 16. He's got a bit of poor mans Macrae about him but can see a typical Dal pick in him.

Cooled on him after not hearing anything about him in the last few weeks but can 100% see Dal taking at 16.

Can also see us taking Constable with 16 ( fingers crossed )

 

[Charlie Bucket]

Predictions for tomorrow night...

9. Noughton/Stephenson/Coffield
16. Constable/Murphy/Ballard

 

[Allan Shorty]

It's pretty sad when you can say that Cordy is a better user of the ball than Naughton.

Premiership hero cordy to you.

 

[goodcop badcop]

Ballard may be able to develop into a defender or forward too. He played as a key position player at school level footy and was very good by the sound of it. A few phantom drafters list his intercept marking as a strength and he kicked 7 goals in one game. Maybe Dalrymple sees him as more then just a winger looking into the future.

 

[dogwatch]

People get so enamoured by any tall prospect with athleticism who can play somewhere other than just as a KPP. Ballard has been so overrated just because he can pick up a ball off the ground and is 195cm. None of his traits, if he were 185cm, would put him in certain draft contention. He's a safe ball-user, capable above his head and clean at ground level. Good for him. Has he shown really impressive production at any level this year? No. Has he proven himself at SANFL league level? No. Is there any benefit to have 195cm outside midfielders, really? No.

I couldn't give a shit if a genuine wingman was 165cm so long as they played the role well. The whole point of being a wingman is that you can transfer the ball from end to end creatively, effectively and with pace, as well as being able to run exceptionally in transition on defence. Having height doesn't assist any of this. It only makes you more capable in aerial contests, which aren't the domain of outside runners.

I actually think Ballard is a fine prospect. I reckon there's a good chance he'll have some sort of success at AFL level with his versatility and general ability. Still, the fact that he's in contention for pick 16 is ridiculous and driven so much by the fact that he's 195cm and not a KPP.

I'm with you. That sort of profile screams Ayce Cordy to me. No thanks.

 

[fronkalicious]

Are you guys chipping naughton?

 

[True Dog]

Have you ever known Dalrymple to get seduced by one or two good attributes or "fads?" Genuine question. I would suggest, based on his history, that if Ballard is in contention for an early pick owned by us, that we view him as having more to his game than simply being a tall mid.

With you on this one Dan…

 

[dogwatch]

Have you ever known Dalrymple to get seduced by one or two good attributes or "fads?" Genuine question. I would suggest, based on his history, that if Ballard is in contention for an early pick owned by us, that we view him as having more to his game than simply being a tall mid.

No, Dalrymple has always been his own man (even with Christian Howard ) but who says Ballard's really in contention for our pick? A journo who says "WB been linked ..."? To me, that's just journo-speak for "I've made this up" or "I got this from a totally unreliable source but I need to pump out some more pap for the masses while we're waiting for the draft".

Excuse my cynicism but we've been "linked" to at least a dozen players. I think they're only guessing. Possibly we interviewed him somewhere along the way. That doesn't prove we're keen on him.

As you said yourself, if we do draft him I'll love him 5 seconds later, but until then he's just one of a few hundred hopefuls.

 

[Gollo]

Have you ever known Dalrymple to get seduced by one or two good attributes or "fads?" Genuine question. I would suggest, based on his history, that if Ballard is in contention for an early pick owned by us, that we view him as having more to his game than simply being a tall mid.

That's a fair point, and I am one who was highly skeptical of Bontempelli and Macrae for the same reasons when they were drafted, however if Dalrymple is actually really interested in him (which I don't necessarily think is true just because of one rumour) I don't necessarily feel I should validate that opinion merely because Dalrymple has had really good success in the past. If it does happen that we take Ballard at 16, which I would consider to be unlikely, I would be disappointed, and though willing to give Ballard plenty of time to vindicate Dalrymple's decision, I wouldn't be holding high hopes for his transition to AFL level.

Ballard has a similar aura to Macrae and Bontempelli in that they had size and were played in somewhat unusual positions, however Ballard has had nothing like the rate of improvement that our two stars had in their draft year. His lack of genuine production or a standout trait makes me view him fairly cynically.

 

[Dav1d]

Not long, not long now fellas

I am excited already & feel like a kid on Christmas Eve night

 

[Mutt]

Landsberger has us selecting Naughton and Murphy :

 

[murphy2bedabest]

Did we not pick up schache after he signed a contract with the lions mid season? Is it possible Adams is still a chance to seek a move back to WA ? Having him contracted gives us a strong hand if he seeks a trade.

Naughton might be a bit of forward planning, if we do pick at him it’ll be for 3-5 years from now.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

however if Dalrymple is actually really interested in him (which I don't necessarily think is true just because of one rumour) I don't necessarily feel I should validate that opinion merely because Dalrymple has had really good success in the past.

Oh absolutely not, definitely not my point. Don't think you should change your opinion if/when he's drafted by us just because he was drafted by us. I'm just suggesting that if we are interested in him, I'd suggest that it's not just because he's tall. We'd see something else in him - which, of course, may end up being correct or incorrect.

 

[X_box_X]

I don’t think I’ll be happy at the end of the first round of the draft tomorrow night.

Isn’t Easton Wood our intercept defender? Can’t Lewis Young perform that role as well? Aren’t we keeping Smith on the list because we have hope he can do similar?

Spend pick 9 on Naughton, watch him and his loopy hospital pass kicking and then after two years watch him ask to go to Collingwood and we take a third rounder.

Pick Bonar and give ourselves a point of difference.

Oh, OK. Why don't we pay you to be out recruiting officer, then?