List Mgmt. 2017 Draft Prospects

[LittleG]

I think the opposite, we're not playing nearly enough true forwards, whereas we have guys like Dahlhaus, Libba, Bontempelli, Macrae, Wallis all running through the midfield as top-level mids.

Dunkley really should fit the bill for another pure inside mid, if we really need one. That is his best position by a country mile, we should be getting him in the guts far more than he already is.

We need a quick contested inside mid. AND some actual forwards. Not disagreeing about needing forwards just want a more specialised one.

 

[JAMES_B_101]

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Petruccelle 5 goals and BOG 3 weeks in a row...

 

[Wizard17]

 

[JAMES_B_101]

Saw an article on Will Sutherland, anyone here know anything about him? Apart from being an Australian under 19's cricketer.

 

[Gollo]

Saw an article on Will Sutherland, anyone here know anything about him? Apart from being an Australian under 19's cricketer.

Athletic 195cm prospect who can play as a key or in the midfield. He's James Sutherland's son, who is the CEO of Cricket Australia, so I'd consider it highly unlikely that he would turn his back on cricket to enter the draft. He's been performing strongly for Scotch in APS football, choosing no to play TAC Cup footy due to his cricket commitments, but will surely play for Vic Metro at the Champs.

 

[Gollo]

On Cam Rayner, Saturday in the PEGS v Mentone game he led PEGS to victory over previously-undefeated Mentone with 34 disposals, 12 marks and 3 goals. Might be starting to find some real form at school level.

 

[JAMES_B_101]

Athletic 195cm prospect who can play as a key or in the midfield. He's James Sutherland's son, who is the CEO of Cricket Australia, so I'd consider it highly unlikely that he would turn his back on cricket to enter the draft. He's been performing strongly for Scotch in APS football, choosing no to play TAC Cup footy due to his cricket commitments, but will surely play for Vic Metro at the Champs.

Well hopefully he dominates at the champs and all the press is about him being a top draft prospect, might push him in the footy direction. Would bump someone down the order towards our pick if it were the case.

 

[Yojimbo]

Adam Sambono 184 cm 79 kg classy elite small forward
playing with the NT Thunder 7 Games 26 Goals very
interesting type. NITV channel replays their games on
Tuesday nights worth a look.

 

[McCraeBF]

Really like wooller seems a perfect fit and about our draft pick

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Really like wooller seems a perfect fit and about our draft pick

Well shit now I'm off him

 

[Wizard17]

The more I think about it the more I think this will be small/midfield draft for us this year.

Though interest in the Murray boy Jordan Butts wouldn't surprise.

 

[Wizard17]

On Cam Rayner, Saturday in the PEGS v Mentone game he led PEGS to victory over previously-undefeated Mentone with 34 disposals, 12 marks and 3 goals. Might be starting to find some real form at school level.

Saw some talk he ran an 11 beep last year.

Worrying.

 

[Wizard17]

Matt Balmer’s scouting notes:

Game 1:
VIC COUNTRY 3.5 5.8 7.13 11.14 (80)
ALLIES 2.1 4.3 4.3 6.5 (41)

GOALS:
VIC COUNTRY: Meek 2, Johnston 2, Garoni 2, Floyd, McHenry, Miers, Butts, Jones
ALLIES: Sambono 2, Burke, Scott, Bailey, Richards

Vic Country:

#4 Gryan Miers – Attended a large number of centre bounces, using his quick, clean hands to get the ball out of the stoppages. He’s a smart footballer and his good agility helps him weave through the packs. Kicked a nice goal in the third term but has a strange kicking action that might need some work.

#13 Ethan Floyd – Could’ve easily kicked three goals in the opening term, with kickable shots on the run at goal missed. Very left foot orientated – he kicks it long and stands out in his bright boots. His speed & dash is superb on the outside and is a weapon when he wants to attack.

#19 Matthew Ling – Had a long run with three bounces down the broadcast wing – but shanked the kick on the run when streaming inside 50. His second efforts were good and he has really good vision when he has the ball in hand. Very composed player and is versatile to play in multiple positions. Finished his morning early icing his calf up – but it didn’t appear to be too serious.

#22 Jordon Butts – Initially expected him to play at CHB – but played up forward. Took multiple marks – including one which saw him end up nearly snapping the goalpost. Did struggle to make the distance from 40m out with one set shot, but moments later made the distance from 50m at the same end. Kicked his only goal for the day in the third quarter, but his ‘dukes’ were very impressive overhead.

#26 Angus Schumacher – Slow starter but once he got going he was very impressive. Another who possesses a really clean left foot kick. Weaves well through traffic and is willing to take the game on. Also a solid mark overhead. Like him best across half back.

#30 Jordan Johnston – One of the few players with X-Factor in the Country teams. He nearly plucked a few marks metres from goal, jumping over the taller opposition defenders who were attempting to spoil the ball through. Played through the middle at times and booted a goal in the last quarter. Think the Rebels’ best prospect is worth a spot in the Country team.

#32 Cassidy Parish – Parish’s clearance work and contested numbers are some of the best in the 2017 draft pool – but he is a poor kick on his right foot. At one stage instead of handballing to a player 5 metres away, he attempted a rugby-style chip kick which he managed to nearly mark like some of the best rugby players looking to score a try. What was impressive was a left foot pinpoint pass inside 50 that hit Butts, but he mostly rushed a few of his kicks under pressure. There’s a lot to like about Parish – but he needs to clean up his kicking and stop the ‘dinky’ kicks around the ground.

Allies:

#4 Jacob Dawson – Possesses really good hands in close at the stoppages. Kicking does need some work as at times he just banged it forward. Some of his other kicks around the ground did hang in the air, rather than being pinpoint and resulted in a few being spoiled. Inside work is good and wins clearances.

#5 Zac Bailey – One of the clear standouts and the player I was most impressed with through the whole day. Was willing to take the game on, using his speed & agility to move forward. Worked hard all day on the inside at the stoppages and kicked it well on his right foot. Snapped a very good goal in the second quarter.

#6 Bailey Scott – Made some good decisions with ball in hand and provided some run in the middle of the ground. Marks well overhead.

#7 Adam Sambono – Used his speed to chase and lay a great tackle. Is a player that catches the eye and screams X-Factor! Snaps the ball well on either foot and booted two goals – one of which saw him calmly think through a snap, not rushing the chance and putting it through. Is a player that doesn’t need to have too much of the ball to impact a game inside 50.

#8 Jake Brown – One of the leading disposal winners for the Allies, but his ball use was poor. Had multiple clangers and was another at times who just bombed it forward. His voice was good around the ground, barking instructions as an older player in the team and at the stoppages.

#27 Rodney Baird – Very raw footballer who is still learning the game. His decision making is a work-in-progress and was slow in possessing the ball & then disposing of it.

#32 Daniel Johnston – Played up forward and was largely influential. Was beaten in the forward ruck contests and has poor agilty. Didn’t find much of the ball through the day. Finished the game well with some solid marks in the last quarter.

#33 Jack Payne – Showed some good signs in defence. Lead up to one play, but overran it attempting to intercept and dropped the mark. He did go to ground too many times early, but his overhead marking got better as the game went on. He was always looking for a switch with ball in hand and I’m looking forward to seeing him play for the Allies in the Under 18 Championships.

#34 Nathan Richards – Shared the ruck duties with Tony Olango. Another who looked a touch off the pace at times and struggled around the ground to win the football. Had a few touches late and won most of the hitouts in the final term. Took an outstanding mark over Patterson in the last quarter.

Game 2:

VIC METRO 2.0 4.0 5.0 6.1 (37)
ALLIES 4.1 6.2 9.4 11.7 (73)

GOALS:
VIC METRO: Jones 2, Grace, Petruccelle, Harman, Penrith
ALLIES: Hardman 2, Bell 2, Crossley 2, Fitzgerald, Powell, Dixon, Thomas, Clayton

Vic Metro:

#2 Ryley Stoddart – Worked hard on the wing and across half back. Is composed with ball in hand and one of the better ball users off his left foot, kicking long or short. Also marks well overhead and was consistent all day.

#4 Thomas North – Started in at the centre bounces and set up smartly 50m away from play when the ball was deep inside their forward 50. He was good at the stoppages and around the ground. Another Ranges player who is in great form.

#5 Quintin Montanaro – A quiet day for Montanaro who had a slow game last week with a toe injury. The game didn’t suit him when the rain came, and he wasn’t able to find his outside ball. Expect him to bounce back next week for Sandringham Dragons.

#11 Alfie Jarnestrom – Had a superb second quarter, starting in at the centre bounces and winning multiple clearances. His hands in close are good and he took a few marks around the ground.

#27 Jack Petruccelle – Showed glimpses of his pace but looked a bit out of place on the forward flank. Looks his best on the inside through the midfield and I’m hoping he gets the opportunity to play there in the Under 18 Championships. His kicking needs attention though and this is what is stopping his breaking into the top ten at this stage – as multiple kicks missed their targets and was mostly ineffective by foot all day. As always provided a highlight in the middle of the ground when he ‘nearly’ took a screamer.

#31 Nicholas Coffield – Has so much time in the contest and is composed with ball in hand. Around the ground his vision is good and seems to find the best target short or long. Found plenty of the ball and reminds me a bit of Hugh McCluggage from last year in the contest.

#34 Noah Balta – Was happy to see him line up as a key defender – as one of the few AFL Academy players who played today. Provided good run up the ground and looked to play off his man. His leap helps him when he needs to defend one-on-one and showed enough signs to suggest he might play there again in the future.

Allies:

#5 Jack Powell – Goes under the radar and just gets the job done. Has a strongly built body and is strong in at the contest. Showed great composure in the opening quarter when he snapped from 40m on an acute angle, taking his time and putting it through when there was no obvious option to pass it off to.

#7 James Bell – One of the Allies’ best in Game 2. Showed some tricks and I really liked his game better than some of his Under 18 Academy Series games. Looked his best across half forward, where he was able to impact the scoreboard booting two goals, getting involved with the contests inside forward 50. Looked lively and one to keep an eye on if he gets a chance.

#8 Jack Clayton – The Brisbane Lions Academy member possesses a nice left foot and his first quarter was one of the better ones I’ve seen him play in a while. Hit a pinpoint pass inside 50 to a teammate and worked hard right around the ground.

#22 Doulton Langlands – Best game I’ve seen him play this year. Was able to impact the game on the outside. Runs well from half back to half forward, and his run down the ground in the second quarter was superb. Spent more time at the stoppages later in the game and is very agile.

#25 Tarryn Thomas – North Melbourne will get a gem next year. Thomas showed some speed playing most of the game inside forward 50. Running down close to the boundary line, he was able to use his vision and hit Hardman in the goal square for a goal assist. Liked his game.

#34 Brayden Crossley – Won most of his one-on-one contestes up forward and in the ruck against weaker opponents – but I’m not convinced this will be able to translate at AFL level and will need to work on his endurance. Took some big contested marks, but had a few ugly kicks inside 50.

#35 Connor Ballenden – If you left at three quarter time like some watches on did you would’ve said Ballenden was poor – but he finished the game respectively well. Struggled further away from goal, but looked his best the closer he was towards goal. At one stage he collected the ball, weaved a few players, ran 20 metres and banged home a goal from just inside 50. Is a good contested mark overhead and I’m hoping he will be at his best in the Under 18 Championships.

 

[Gollo]

Saw some talk he ran an 11 beep last year.

Worrying.

Yeah, 11.10. Not an endurance athlete, although very few impact players like him are.

 

[Dav1d]

Yeah, 11.10. Not an endurance athlete, although very few impact players like him are.

If it doesn't improve at all then that'd be incredibly worrying; could mean that it might be a while before it improves, he didn't train in what is an obvious weakness of his game or he can't improve it.

If I remember correctly, Cyril Rioli had even worse of a beep test. I assume when Stringer joined us that his beep test wasn't good either. (Someone correct me on that if I'm wrong)

I'd be curious to see him used at half back at some stage of his junior career if he hasn't been already, see how he keeps himself involved when he has to run back to defend.

 

[LittleG]

If it doesn't improve at all then that'd be incredibly worrying; could mean that it might be a while before it improves, he didn't train in what is an obvious weakness of his game or he can't improve it.

If I remember correctly, Cyril Rioli had even worse of a beep test. I assume when Stringer joined us that his beep test wasn't good either. (Someone correct me on that if I'm wrong)

I'd be curious to see him used at half back at some stage of his junior career if he hasn't been already, see how he keeps himself involved when he has to run back to defend.

Anything under 12 when you are trying to make a sporting career is lazy or just not an endurance athlete. IF this kid wants to play sport can I recommend NFL.

 

[Wizard17]

Looking at our contracts thread I think we will have around 4 ND picks and 3 RD picks.

Yeah, 11.10. Not an endurance athlete, although very few impact players like him are.

Won't go anywhere near the first round with that if it isn't improved.

Would be lucky to get drafted actually.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Looking at our contracts thread I think we will have around 4 ND picks and 3 RD picks.



Won't go anywhere near the first round with that if it isn't improved.

Would be lucky to get drafted actually.

So you reckon Lynch will get promoted?

 

[Wizard17]

So you reckon Lynch will get promoted?

Yes. Especially if Murph retires or JJ leaves. Would need another attacking defender or two on the Primary List.

Also if we trade and use free agency well I think those 4 ND picks will be all top 50.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Yes. Especially if Murph retires or JJ leaves. Would need another attacking defender or two on the Primary List.

I don't know, I don't reckon. That'll mean 6 players off the senior list all up, that's a lot. More if we want to trade in. Who do you reckon goes?

 

[Dav1d]

Anything under 12 when you are trying to make a sporting career is lazy or just not an endurance athlete. IF this kid wants to play sport can I recommend NFL.

Funny to think that was the player everyone was saying
'Nope, no chance that he makes it to our first pick'
just a few weeks ago.

 

[Wizard17]

I don't know, I don't reckon. That'll mean 6 players off the senior list all up, that's a lot. More if we want to trade in. Who do you reckon goes?

Reckon we will have a few older players retire. Could be all three but I hope it isn't. Then there's Hamilton, Honeychurch and I have question marks on Crameri and of course JJ. I think if we keep JJ we will lose Crameri to open some cap to have a play at someone especially if the older guys retire, we should have some cash to throw around.

Wouldn't surprise me if someone had a go at our fringe players like Dale or Webb either.

 

[Gollo]

Looking at our contracts thread I think we will have around 4 ND picks and 3 RD picks.



Won't go anywhere near the first round with that if it isn't improved.

Would be lucky to get drafted actually.

Yeah, I remember last year there was a bit of hype around Liam Ryan towards November, and at the WA Combine he ran a sub-11 beep and didn't get picked up. Anything sub-12 by the end of the year should realistically wipe any player's name off any team's draft board. Jack Scrimshaw's was especially poor last year with 12.6 I think.

 

[LittleG]

Reckon we will have a few older players retire. Could be all three but I hope it isn't. Then there's Hamilton, Honeychurch and I have question marks on Crameri and of course JJ. I think if we keep JJ we will lose Crameri to open some cap to have a play at someone especially if the older guys retire, we should have some cash to throw around.

Wouldn't surprise me if someone had a go at our fringe players like Dale or Webb either.

Agree with that. Will lose one of Dale/Webb. Crameri to go play at Casey with VD. Yes Casey.... not sure we get any trade currency for him.

Oh yes, almost forgot:
#banvd

 

[LittleG]

Yeah, I remember last year there was a bit of hype around Liam Ryan towards November, and at the WA Combine he ran a sub-11 beep and didn't get picked up. Anything sub-12 by the end of the year should realistically wipe any player's name off any team's draft board. Jack Scrimshaw's was especially poor last year with 12.6 I think.

Ryan looked great at WAFL. Reminded my of Cyril but even lazier.