List Mgmt. 2017 Draft Prospects

[Dav1d]

Is he a tall defender? What is his likely draft range?

He can play both, its a bit hard to say at this stage

But considering their isn't too many other talls going around, someone might bite on him as high as the mid first round (maybe higher if he dominates some games..!)

 

[Dav1d]

Thanks. Great reply

How deep is this draft?

Its as deep as the hole we're currently stuck in mate

 

[Dry Rot]

Its as deep as the hole we're currently stuck in mate

So it is good to the fifth round?

I suspect that quite a few of our players will be leaving come season's end, either from retirement or requesting to be traded to a new club.

 

[Dav1d]

So it is good to the fifth round?

I suspect that quite a few of our players will be leaving come season's end, either from retirement or requesting to be traded to a new club.

Honestly, I couldn't say for sure

But 5 rounds deep sounds like it might be pushing it

 

[Wizard17]

He can play both, its a bit hard to say at this stage

But considering their isn't too many other talls going around, someone might bite on him as high as the mid first round (maybe higher if he dominates some games..!)

From the game I saw him in he looked like a top 10 sort. The way he moves for his size...

 

[Wizard17]

 

[Dry Rot]

Honestly, I couldn't say for sure

But 5 rounds deep sounds like it might be pushing it

Soory, that was a poor joke.

 

[Dav1d]

Soory, that was a poor joke.

I could have made a joke back, but it was too early in the morning to be witty

 

[dogzrule]

Might get a better pick now looking at our form, at least start thinking top 5



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[Wizard17]

Wonder who the perennial "draftee with two first names" is going to be this year?

Oscar Allen maybe

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Thanks. Great reply

How deep is this draft?

Quite shallow apparently.

 

[Dry Rot]

What's Sutherland like?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-21/clock-ticking-for-gun-teen-sutherland

 

[Wizard17]

What's Sutherland like?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-21/clock-ticking-for-gun-teen-sutherland

Top 5 even possibly no.1 if he decides to go with footy.

CHF but athletic enough to go through the midfield too.

 

[Gollo]

Dylan Moore is an absolute star. Very opportunistic up forward and an elite ball-winner in the midfield. Strong despite his size and has excellent production.

Cam Rayner has had an up and down game. Done some lazy kicks and hasn't really been able to burst out of the midfield much, but had a blinder spell playing up forward late in the 2nd quarter kicking two goals and being in everything.

Davies-Uniacke should be the clear contender for the no. 1 pick at the moment. Didn't do much late in the 2nd quarter but has showed his skillet throughout.

 

[Gollo]

I really like Max Dreher and Gryan Miers as well. Miers just what we need in a defensive small forward. Dreher a really smart and productive versatile midfielder with a 16.1 beep.

 

[Gollo]

Not sure I see it with Stephenson. He has some nice attributes but doesn't look as comfortable up the ground as he did as a lead-up forward, and his ball use around the ground is a bit shaky. Will definitely need to settle into a best position and have some strong form later in the season, otherwise I can see him slipping quite a lot.

 

[Wizard17]

We have to get Miers. He is as natural a footballer as I've seen this year. So much like Dahlhaus I'm starting to believe we have created a cloning machine somewhere.

Paddy Dow is going to be something real special if he can increase his production just a little bit.

Also really like the look of Constable and Garner.

 

[Wizard17]

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-24/u18s-tigers-fatherson-thrills-at-punt-road-oval

Spoiler

RICHMOND father-son prospect Patrick Naish was one of a stack of draft hopefuls to star in Vic Metro's 22-point win over Vic Country on Saturday.

In a high quality game at Punt Road Oval, Naish gathered 24 disposals, nine marks and kicked two smart goals in Metro's 15.7 (97) to 11.9 (75) win as the reigning title holders remained unbeaten heading into the final two rounds of the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships.

Naish, the son of former Tiger Chris, has spent plenty of time at Richmond's headquarters through the club's father-son program and continued his impressive season at the venue with his foot skills and hard running taking the eye. He shapes as a top-20 pick at November's NAB AFL Draft.

Under-18s hub: Every game, every result

But Naish wasn't the only player to boost his stocks, with Metro teammates Charlie Constable (31 disposals, six marks, six inside-50s) and Jack Higgins(30 disposals, two goals) also dominating through the midfield.

Smaller type Lachie Fogarty, in his first game back from groin soreness, was also terrific. The 178cm Western Jets product had 23 disposals and 12 tackles, and showed his neat and efficient ball use with two steady goals, while captain Joel Garnerplayed perhaps his best game of the year with 24 disposals and nine marks across half-back.

Metro's Cameron Rayner did his No.1 pick chances no harm with a blistering display, with the half-forward/midfielder particularly damaging in the first half. Rayner finished with 21 disposals and three important goals, and again highlighted his powerful marking and long kicking.

Plenty of eyes were on Metro's Will Sutherland, the talented dual sportsman who came into the side for his first game at state level. Sutherland is weighing a potential cricketer career, but should be buoyed by his showing against quality Vic Country defenders.

The 17-year-old was probably the best performed key forward in the game, and kicked one goal from 10 disposals and five marks. He is athletic, marks well and is a good kick, and will be an early selection at the draft should he choose the football pathway over cricket, where his father James is the country's highest administrator.

Country also had plenty of good contributors in a tight encounter in front of a grandstand packed full of club recruiters and list managers. Co-captains James Worpel (25 disposals, 10 tackles, one goal) and Oscar Clavarino (six marks in defence) were excellent, while small forward Gryan Miers kicked two goals from 24 disposals.

Ben Paton rebounded well from defence with 19 disposals, while Lochie O'Brien overcame a quiet first half to finish with 18 disposals and showed his lethal left-foot kicking skills. Midfielder Paddy Dow was busy and gave Country some zip, while David Handleykicked two goals from 15 touches.

Likely early selection Luke Davies-Uniacke was instrumental early as Country went into quarter time tied with Metro, but was quiet thereafter and finished with 14 disposals and a brilliant running goal.

Metro will be expecting to maintain its unbeaten run in the championships next Friday when the carnival continues at Etihad Stadium with their meeting against South Australia. Vic Country will also host Western Australia on Friday at the Docklands venue.

VIC METRO 4.1 9.2 12.5 15.7 (97)
VIC COUNTRY 4.1 7.3 10.7 11.9 (75)

GOALS
Vic Metro: Rayner 3, Higgins 2, Naish 2, Fogerty 2, Moore 2, Cerra, Sutherland, Stephenson, M.King
Vic Country: Handley 2, Miers 2, Parish, Davies-Uniacke, De Koning, Williams, Johnston, Worpel, Daniels

BEST
Vic Metro: Garner, Naish, Penrith, Coffield, Constable, Moore, Higgins, Rayner
Vic Country: Worpel, Miers, Clavarino, Paton, Handley, Clark, Dow

 

[bulldogs54]

We have to get Miers. He is as natural a footballer as I've seen this year. So much like Dahlhaus I'm starting to believe we have created a cloning machine somewhere.

Paddy Dow is going to be something real special if he can increase his production just a little bit.

Also really like the look of Constable and Garner.

Agree with most of this. Miers has a lot of Dahlhaus about him, but seems a slightly better kick for goal. Could be a good get if he slips outside top 30 perhaps.

Agree Paddy Dow has lots of upside. Constable was very busy and Garner defended quite well in one v ones as well as using the ball well from the backline.

 

[Wizard17]

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-25/england-masterclass-lifts-wa-u18s-to-victory

Spoiler

Australia to a 40-point win over the Allies in round three of the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships on Sunday.

The 182cm midfielder began brightly and collected a game-high 26 disposals, eight marks and four inside 50s in the 12.12 (84) to 6.8 (44) win at Leederville Oval.

Forward Oscar Allen sent a scare through the WA camp in the first quarter with an ankle concern, but returned after having his lower leg strapped.

Allen, who stands at 191cm, provided a strong target up forward and ended with 19 disposals, eight marks and two goals.

Teammate Jaxon Cahill also impressed courtesy of his ability to produce lively counterattack from half-back, gathering 23 disposals, seven marks, six inside 50s and a goal.

WA medium forward Brandon Starcevich registered two goals from his eight possessions and three marks, demonstrating his skills in the air and at ground level.

Fellow goalkicker Ian Hill also kicked two majors from 13 touches and five marks, but fumbled the ball at times.

For the Allies, ruckman Brayden Crossley returned after being rested last week and continued his eye-catching run of form.

The 198cm prospect exerted his influence around the ground and accumulated a match-high 29 hit-outs, 15 disposals and kicked two goals, including his side's opening major.

After a quiet start to the carnival playing up forward, Connor Ballenden regained his touch at the opposite end of the ground.

The 199cm Ballenden performed at half-back and collected 20 possessions – including 11 in the first quarter – and eight marks in an encouraging display.

Contested ball-winner Jack Powell assumed the captaincy duties for the Allies and again showed why he is highly regarded, finishing with a team-high 21 touches, six clearances and two marks.

WESTERN AUSTRALIA 2.2 6.5 8.6 12.12 (84)
ALLIES 1.1 2.4 5.8 6.8 (44)

GOALS
Western Australia: Hill 2, Starcevich 2, Allen 2, Eastland 2, Mitchell, Cahill, Ameduri, Cramer
Allies: Crossley 2, Dixon, Scott, Sambono, Simington

BEST
Western Australia: England, Cahill, Eastland, Boullineau, Ameduri, Starcevich, Taylor
Allies: Crossley, Ballenden, Powell, Carr, Nutting

 

[Wizard17]

 

[Wizard17]

Good to see Matthew Day is stringing some good games together. Really liked the look of him.

 

[McCraeBF]

My Rankings after watching year unfold

The ones in bold have shocked me with how good there going-Have Sutherland playing Cricket

To get into this draft we will need to trade out
JJ-Picks 14-19 Essendon
Crameri 28 Melbourne

would let us have picks 14-15-19-27-28

would get us :
Cerra
Clarvino
Ling
Fogarty
Miers

Lets back out strength and that our recruiters


The dogs need to trade to get what we need.....marked are what we need..

1. Cameron Rayner - Western Jets

2. Darcy Fogarty - Glenelg

3. Jack Higgins - Oakleigh Chargers

4 Jaidyn Stephenson - Eastern Ranges--this is what we need outside speed

5. Sam Hayes - Eastern Ranges

6. Jarrod Brander - Bendigo Pioneers

7. Luke Davies-Uniacke - Dandenong Stingrays

8. Joel Garner - Eastern Ranges--this is what we need outside speed and damaging left foot

9. Hunter Clark - Dandenong Stingrays

10. Lochie O’Brien - Bendigo Pioneers

11.James Worpel - Geelong Falcons

12.Noah Balta - Calder Cannons

13.Connor Ballenden - Queensland Uni

14.Charlie Constable - Sandringham Dragons

15.Nick Coffield - Northern Knights

16.Callum Coleman-Jones - Sturt

17.Adam Cerra - Eastern Ranges-Smooth and Classy outside mid

18.Oscar Clavarino - Dandenong Stingrays--This is what we need true Marking CHB

19.Charlie Spargo - Murray Bushrangers

20.Matthew Ling - Geelong Falcons--- Fast and classy left footer

21.Lachlan Fogarty - Western Jets----Just pure footballer who suits everyone on baller

22.Paddy Dow - Bendigo Pioneers

23.Patrick Naish - Northern Knights

24.Aaron Naughton - Peel Thunder

25.Cassidy Parish - Geelong Falcons

26.Gryan Miers - Geelong Falcons--This guy is a classy Dalh

27.Jack Petruccelle - Northern Knights

28.Toby Wooler - Oakleigh Chargers

29.Jackson Edwards - Glenelg

30.Dylan Moore - Eastern Ranges

 

[Gollo]

My Rankings after watching year unfold

The ones in bold have shocked me with how good there going-Have Sutherland playing Cricket

To get into this draft we will need to trade out
JJ-Picks 14-19 Essendon
Crameri 28 Melbourne

would let us have picks 14-15-19-27-28

would get us :
Cerra
Clarvino
Ling
Fogarty
Miers

Lets back out strength and that our recruiters


The dogs need to trade to get what we need.....marked are what we need..

1. Cameron Rayner - Western Jets

2. Darcy Fogarty - Glenelg

3. Jack Higgins - Oakleigh Chargers

4 Jaidyn Stephenson - Eastern Ranges--this is what we need outside speed

5. Sam Hayes - Eastern Ranges

6. Jarrod Brander - Bendigo Pioneers

7. Luke Davies-Uniacke - Dandenong Stingrays

8. Joel Garner - Eastern Ranges--this is what we need outside speed and damaging left foot

9. Hunter Clark - Dandenong Stingrays

10. Lochie O’Brien - Bendigo Pioneers

11.James Worpel - Geelong Falcons

12.Noah Balta - Calder Cannons

13.Connor Ballenden - Queensland Uni

14.Charlie Constable - Sandringham Dragons

15.Nick Coffield - Northern Knights

16.Callum Coleman-Jones - Sturt

17.Adam Cerra - Eastern Ranges-Smooth and Classy outside mid

18.Oscar Clavarino - Dandenong Stingrays--This is what we need true Marking CHB

19.Charlie Spargo - Murray Bushrangers

20.Matthew Ling - Geelong Falcons--- Fast and classy left footer

21.Lachlan Fogarty - Western Jets----Just pure footballer who suits everyone on baller

22.Paddy Dow - Bendigo Pioneers

23.Patrick Naish - Northern Knights

24.Aaron Naughton - Peel Thunder

25.Cassidy Parish - Geelong Falcons

26.Gryan Miers - Geelong Falcons--This guy is a classy Dalh

27.Jack Petruccelle - Northern Knights

28.Toby Wooler - Oakleigh Chargers

29.Jackson Edwards - Glenelg

30.Dylan Moore - Eastern Ranges

Interesting. Fogarty has massive, massive shades of Hrovat and Honeychurch which worries me a little in our system, where I think he can be a really solid player at another club but may have his development stunted at the Dogs. He is a terrific-looking player though. I prefer Moore as that undersized midfielder type, as he seems to play the small forward role really naturally which will give him a pathway into becoming a more full-time midfielder.

Those proposed trades are very speculative, particularly with Crameri who I doubt would be able to net us a pick 28. Either way, I'd be happy with that outcome as there are players in this draft that we could do well to target. The five you selected (possibly substituting Fogarty for Moore) I would be over the moon getting, but I think it's pretty much consensus, at this stage, that Cerra will go top 10. Petruccelle will also go far higher than 27, so long as he doesn't have too quiet a champs. Davies-Uniacke would surely have to be a consensus no. 1 pick right now, and Joel Garner will slide further than pick 8.

For the sake of investigation, I'm going to asume that we have those five picks at the draft. These are the areas I think we should be looking at, around that range:

Genuine midfield talent:
Petruccelle
Moore
Cerra (should he be available)
Tom North
perhaps Fogarty
Paddy Dow (if he can improve production)

Small forward-type:
Miers
Moore

Classy/speedy outside mids:
Matt Ling
Coffield
Clark (kicking shaky, however)
Garner (think he's more of a half-back than a true mid)

KPDs:
Clavarino
Naughton (although I haven't seen him play)

 

[bulldogs54]

Coffield strikes me as the type of player Dalrymple would draft.