2017 Draft rumours

[Flandersss]

How does 1 go about unseeing this?

Harden up tex.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

No one knows who Fremantle want or will take, someone will have gotten it correct once it's revealed but only because they guessed the correct permutation.

Fremantle have been incredibly secretive to protect their draft hand of 2 and 5.

Of course, but the journos and draft "experts" tend to get their info from the kids and their families themselves rather than the clubs.

 

[HBF]

10 is about where he is Rated but 6 is tad High for him to go

Us Carlton supporters know that SOS and Bolts want players who use the ball well. Richards certainly ticks that box.

 

[DaveLister]

Of course, but the journos and draft "experts" tend to get their info from the kids and their families themselves rather than the clubs.

you think fremantle have been going around tell kids their rankings? Sure the info all comes from the draftees and their managers but it's entirely based off of a vibe that they get during interviews. For the exact same situation one kid my come off feeling like fremantle are definitely going to pick them whereas another thinks the complete opposite.

 

[HBF]

Yeah it’s so open. Could change another 10 times yet

At least the Lions have settled on who they're taking at 1.

 

[Dysfunctional]

At least the Lions have settled on who they're taking at 1.

Carlton will take Dow even if Freo do let LDU go I reckon

 

[pulpdriver]

How does 1 go about unseeing this?

 

[Thewlis Dish]

you think fremantle have been going around tell kids their rankings?

No, but then I don't think any journalist knows who is going to pick who. But if Freo have interviewed Cerra three times, or spoken to him again in the last 24-48 hours, then that may get back to a journalist. Doesn't mean Freo are going to pick him.

It's all educated guesswork.

 

[DaveLister]

No, but then I don't think any journalist knows who is going to pick who. But if Freo have interviewed Cerra three times, or spoken to him again in the last 24-48 hours, then that may get back to a journalist. Doesn't mean Freo are going to pick him.

It's all educated guesswork.

You're right it absolutely doesn't mean we pick him, going off historical data it's impossible to determine if it's legit, a bluff or a double bluff. Last year we spoke to scrimshaw and simpkin in the lead up to the draft but not logue who we took. It's all meaningless speculation, good fun but when people start melting, creating conspiracy theories and acting like every new rumour is verbatim from a recruiter then it ruins the fun a little.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Is he key position though? Seems like a tall mid/utility from what I've read.
So it's just the lack of a viable key forward at 4? Fogarty would be the guy, if you see him as that Pavlich or Hogan type forward. If not, best available mid makes sense.

Flags are and always will be won in the midfield. Our midfield is terrible, and there are a glut of good ones available at the top end.

 

[HumanMeatball]

Brisbane are taking cerra at 1

 

[Snake_Baker]

Would be a great result but can’t see it happening.

Dunno about McCartin at 23.

Where is Constable?

 

[GUMBLETRON]

Flags are and always will be won in the midfield. Our midfield is terrible, and there are a glut of good ones available at the top end.

But a midfield alone doesn't win flags, or Collingwood and Melbourne would've at least played finals. You need a good balance across the field, and key position players, even the elite ones, take 4-5 years to really get going, whereas midfielders and other smalls can contribute from game 1 and in earnest within a year or two.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Is he key position though?

It would come down to match ups.

He looks like he could play the modern version of CHF/CHB, but I can't see him manning an outright KP-CHF/CHB.

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

Flags are and always will be won in the midfield. Our midfield is terrible, and there are a glut of good ones available at the top end.

Ummmmm no.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

But a midfield alone doesn't win flags, or Collingwood and Melbourne would've at least played finals. You need a good balance across the field, and key position players, even the elite ones, take 4-5 years to really get going, whereas midfielders and other smalls can contribute from game 1 and in earnest within a year or two.

Of course, but you build from the middle first. I can't think of a club that has contended with a weak midfield, but I can think of quite a few that have done without strong key position stocks. Our midfield is too weak to be reaching for a key position player in this draft.

 

[Grockadoc]

James Worpel's sister came into my cousin's work today. She said that Adelaide had the most contact with him, followed by the Eagles. Bombers keen on him but think he will be gone before their pick.

 

[Harlequin Dream]

James Worpel's sister came into my cousin's work today. She said that Adelaide had the most contact with him, followed by the Eagles. Bombers keen on him but think he will be gone before their pick.

Looks like he will be gone in the 30s

 

[2006_Eagles]

If Freo are passing on LDU at 2 then it is because we expect him to be there at 5. This has all the hallmarks of a Brad Lloyd **** up.

Brad Lloyd or Jake Lloyd?

 

[tigs2010]

James Worpel's sister came into my cousin's work today. She said that Adelaide had the most contact with him, followed by the Eagles. Bombers keen on him but think he will be gone before their pick.

My uncles, mothers, brother in laws, grandpa was hearing voices through his hearing aid that Brisbane will take Rayner.

 

[RUNVS]

Brad Lloyd or Jake Lloyd?

Don't knock Jake Lloyd as he is a very solid player for the Swans.

 

[adammania9]

Davies-Uniacke to North Melbourne

SuperCoach players...

 

[2006_Eagles]

Not so much a draft rumour but a draft scandal

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Davies-Uniacke to North Melbourne

SuperCoach players...

He'll line up next Cunnington round one if that is the case.

 

[GUMBLETRON]

Of course, but you build from the middle first.

Why? Look at Carlton's current build - they've loaded up on talls, used the extra development time they needed to continue being crap and are now halfway through building their midfield stocks with high picks. In another year or two that broad cohort of players will all come on together. Or, for more complete examples, GWS, who took Patton, Cameron and Lobb in their early years and have continued to fill out the smalls since then, or Adelaide, who had their spine in place before capping off the midfield with the Crouch brothers.

If you load up on midfielders first then sure, you become competitive more quickly, but that diminishes your capacity to then get hold of the elite tall prospects - witness the no man's land Collingwood (who topped up with midfielders) and St Kilda (whose tall picks haven't come on) are stuck in.

Now, if there are no appropriate talls at your picks, or you can't afford to be uncompetitive, then by all means take midfielders - but midfield over spine as a broad strategy is no recipe for success.

It would come down to match ups.

He looks like he could play the modern version of CHF/CHB, but I can't see him manning an outright KP-CHF/CHB.

It's less about position per se, and more the nature of the player. He strikes as the type who can contribute immediately, rather than taking time to bulk up and grow into his size as KP types tend to.