2017 Draft thread

[WhiteLionFeva]

It's a certain type of person that wants to spend most of their time hanging around with kids.

Yeah, bloody parent types.

 

[dlanod]

Yeah, bloody parent types.

Speaking as a parent of a sick child at the moment, I would be delighted not to have to spend most of my time hanging around them.

 

[Jman78]

So I watched the tape of Payne. He really is a monster of a lad, but what else stand out is he has a laconic and fluid kicking action. I know scored 29/30 on the test, hoping it is a real asset in his kicking and not just a on the day fluke. Could have gotten a real potential player here!


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[Brett C]

So I watched the tape of Payne. He really is a monster of a lad, but what else stand out is he has a laconic and fluid kicking action. I know scored 29/30 on the test, hoping it is a real asset in his kicking and not just a on the day fluke. Could have gotten a real potential player here!


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Honestly the kicking test is a joke and if I was a club I would completely ignore the results.

No pressure at all and none of the players looked to have any urgency at all.

 

[Berrygood]

Yeah the leaving school was interesting. Did he actually do anything? Surely it wouldn’t have played much if anything considering he has a top character

He worked with the afl as an intern. So he had to fit everything in with a fulltime job.

 

[jackess]

Honestly the kicking test is a joke and if I was a club I would completely ignore the results.

No pressure at all and none of the players looked to have any urgency at all.

But it's the same for each player. So if one does better then they're more likely to be a better kick.

 

[Brett C]

But it's the same for each player. So if one does better then they're more likely to be a better kick.

Yeah it’s the same for each player but the test is far too easy and bares not resemblance to match play. Scoring 30/30 wouldn’t mean automatically you’re a better kick than someone who scores 20/30

 

[Berrygood]

Absolutely wrapped we took payne. If he can become the defender that can take the opposition no1 fwd it will allow andrews to be that intercept defender he is much better at. Our defence then looks very solid. A big, quick competitive bugger. Hope he goes well. Another sunny coast boy.

 

[jackess]

Yeah it’s the same for each player but the test is far too easy and bares not resemblance to match play. Scoring 30/30 wouldn’t mean automatically you’re a better kick than someone who scores 20/30

Not but it’s mean that most likely you are better. They also have DE% from games and watch heaps of highlights. It all plays a part.

 

[irel]

It's a certain type of person that wants to spend most of their time hanging around with kids.

Cutting but true.

 

[Comeback Lions]

If it means anything, Higgins was going to be our pick, until Richmond took him.

So we had Bailey rated at 8, Higgins at 9 and Starevich at 10. I'm now glad Richmond took Higgins and we got Starevich. To rate Bailey ahead of Higgins makes sense to me, he has more pace and we need that in the midfield. He also has a higher ceiling I'd say, given Higgins admirable & well publicized commitment to getting the most out of himself. Starevich adds speed to the midfield and a bgiger body as well. I'm stoked with our draft haul.

 

[Comeback Lions]

Four talls out and 3 in, but at least Toby Woller has that third tall mould, with the hybrid potential to play midfield at some stage. Although I would have liked Oscar Allen, I think he's a really good choice. Initially, I can see him holding down CHF in the twos, with Ballenden at FF and Oscar/Archie changing in the pocket. Still a pretty tall forward forward line, but one less than this year. Payne at full back, the mobile Eagles at CHB and Frost taking the resting ruck. Pretty well balanced with Paparone freed up to play the running transition role that he's best at. And that's barring injuries with Skinner not back till later in the year.

Different midfield in the twos will be interesting with the young guys given full reign to put pressure on the players in the ones. Development is the key, but we must be a reasonable chance to go back to back. Bring it on.

 

[irel]

Four talls out and 3 in, but at least Toby Woller has that third tall mould, with the hybrid potential to play midfield at some stage. Although I would have liked Oscar Allen, I think he's a really good choice. Initially, I can see him holding down CHF in the twos, with Ballenden at FF and Oscar/Archie changing in the pocket. Still a pretty tall forward forward line, but one less than this year. Payne at full back, the mobile Eagles at CHB and Frost taking the resting ruck. Pretty well balanced with Paparone freed up to play the running transition role that he's best at. And that's barring injuries with Skinner not back till later in the year.

Different midfield in the twos will be interesting with the young guys given full reign to put pressure on the players in the ones. Development is the key, but we must be a reasonable chance to go back to back. Bring it on.

I'm so glad we drafted with back to back premierships in mind.

 

[JasRulz63]

If it means anything, Higgins was going to be our pick, until Richmond took him.

Any indication where we rated L. Fogarty?

 

[Mr Ripper]

Slowly collecting grandsons of 1963 Geelong premiership players. Only 18 to go now.

 

[Dalions]

Good news, lets hope Fagan brings in acceptable standards across all positions.

The lack of speed and agility in our small defenders was appalling this year.

Inhibits the mid field ability to attack the ball at 100% effort if they are concerned if gets past them the opposition score.

That Fagan stuck with that set up all year was equally appalling.

Lets hope that quote of his means he has learned.

I feel that the issue of standards was dealt with pretty bloody well by Fagan last year.
If you were not performing you didnt last long in the seniors, and it was only the players that were playing the best out of the 2's that were promoted.

And in relation to the speed small forwards which i presume you are talking about, has also been attended to in the off season.

Hopefully things will improve in that area next year.

 

[SizeMatters]

Traded Schache for Bailey.

 

[blackpowerlappin]

Still don't get the lack of speed assertions. Far from our biggest issues. Contested possessions, clearances, decision making and youth/inexperience impacted our ability to match it with teams on a consistent basis.

It's clear the mids we drafted posses most of the above. The speed element on its own wasn't enough.

 

[briztoon]

I can imagine who people are replying to.

The sweet bliss of the ignore button.

 

[Pns_blister]

Odd stat for the night: never before has a team spent their own pick on one of their academy players, but it happened three times tonight as Crossley, Payne and Shipley were all taken with their respective teams' last pick.

Once you nominate a player in the draft (via academy or father son) you ARE required to draft them. As we nominated Payne, we had to draft him with our last pick if not bid on.

 

[irel]

Once you nominate a player in the draft (via academy or father son) you ARE required to draft them. As we nominated Payne, we had to draft him with our last pick if not bid on.

Not correct

 

[Nunez]

Once you nominate a player in the draft (via academy or father son) you ARE required to draft them. As we nominated Payne, we had to draft him with our last pick if not bid on.

Not quite. For example, we may have chosen to take another player over Payne hoping he slipped into the rookie draft. We then would have forfeited the chance to have him on our list it was almost guaranteed he'd get drafted. We had the choice and we chose to take him.

 

[SizeMatters]

do we have any rookie picks? If so any ideas who we will take?

 

[dlanod]

Once you nominate a player in the draft (via academy or father son) you ARE required to draft them. As we nominated Payne, we had to draft him with our last pick if not bid on.

That's not correct.

Last year we nominated five players and only took one at all:

• Jacob Allison (Aspley Hornets)
• Nate Dennis (University of Qld)
• William Fletcher (Sherwood)
• Jack Rolls (Morningside)
• Declan Watson (Aspley Hornets)

Previous years show similar or higher numbers not taken.

 

[briztoon]

do we have any rookie picks? If so any ideas who we will take?

Discussion from yesterday was we possibly have one Cat B, QLD zone selection.