2017 Draft thread

[jackess]

For example Aish and Toumpas had an issue with winning their own ball in the juniors

They couldn't kick a bag playing int he forward line though.

 

[briztoon]

Does Stephenson play any private school footy, where there isn't any anti congestion rules that are in place at TAC cup and Nationals?

Up until this game, reports are that he has had a pretty ordinary season so far.

 

[Len S]

Stephenson should be a number 1 draft pick. Has all the tools to be a superstar...

He's very close and not so thin,powerful legs ,and will fill out,he's only 18 !

 

[Len S]

Disagree, doesn't win his own ball at the junior level which is a big concern when playing with the big boys.

Half Hawthorn dont win their own ball, they do win premierships.

 

[Len S]

Does Stephenson play any private school footy, where there isn't any anti congestion rules that are in place at TAC cup and Nationals?

Up until this game, reports are that he has had a pretty ordinary season so far.

He's starring at the business end,as did McGrath.

 

[BulldogMurray]

Does Stephenson play any private school footy, where there isn't any anti congestion rules that are in place at TAC cup and Nationals?

Up until this game, reports are that he has had a pretty ordinary season so far.

He's at St Joseph's FTG and this is their first year in the ACC. Unfortunately didn't play many school footy games. Only know of one game he played and he kicked 7 against De La Salle singlehandedly winning the game.

 

[Carlos Danger]

What teams do people see being worse in 2018 than they are in 2017?

Port - they have cruised into top 4 without beating a team in the 8!?? Draw next year will sort them out, they have major issues forward, back & coaching wise - they could well implode this year still.

Speculative sliders;
Crows maybe - if they lose McGovern n Cameron & don't draw a big name they could slide.

Richmond as well don't convince me depth wise a key injury to a KPP & they don't have much as backup

 

[John_Proctor]

If Buckley is coach then Collingwood will be worse.

North potentially another clean out this off season. Maybe goldy traded, Waite to retire, swallow moved on?

Hawthorn if hodge, Burgoyne, Gibson retire.

Gold Coast if Ablett leaves.

Freo may have another clear out too. Ballantyne may leave, sandy on last legs (although I think contracted next year) Michael Johnson, and a few others.

Obviously each of those have young players potentiallly coming through.

Even the bombers with Kelly and Watson from the team today and then some dead wood at the end of the list like Stanton, hocking, Myers, the older Merrett, bird, brown.

 

[Cockliff38]

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There was a discussion either on one of the podcasts or on tv before one of the games about Higgins and what he projects at the next level.

Higgins left school at the beginning of the year and has been training full time with various coaches, as well as doing an internship at AFL house with the umpiring department.

There is a feeling what he is now, is what he will be in the AFL system. While many of the kids still at school have significant growth still in them.

Yeah I've heard those comments too, might've been Cal Twomey? To be honest, that seems like crap. You could easily twist the notion to focus on how his actions and his professionalism is a testament to how badly he wants to make the grade? He's a 17-year-old, there's still development in him even if he is already, in a way, a full-time athlete.

I'd be absolutely wrapped if we picked him up in the teens and I'd back him in to eventually become a best 22 mid.

 

[Requiem]

Yeah I've heard those comments too, might've been Cal Twomey? To be honest, that seems like crap. You could easily twist the notion to focus on how his actions and his professionalism is a testament to how badly he wants to make the grade? He's a 17-year-old, there's still development in him even if he is already, in a way, a full-time athlete.

I'd be absolutely wrapped if we picked him up in the teens and I'd back him in to eventually become a best 22 mid.

Haven't seen footage of Higgins, but the impression I get is he plays similar to Caleb Daniels from the Dogs.

Would this be an accurate comparison?

 

[Cockliff38]

Haven't seen footage of Higgins, but the impression I get is he plays similar to Caleb Daniels from the Dogs.

Would this be an accurate comparison?

Not bad at all, actually. I'd say Daniels is probably more damaging with his disposal. Higgins is more of an accumulator.

 

[Billy Puller]

So who's the consensus pick 2? Reckon we're gonna sneak into 17th. Our post bye footy has been a massive improvement. Pushing good teams and beating anyone slightly off. Geelong have been inconsistent this year and we have Carlton, north, suns and dogs still to play.

 

[royboys4eva]

How good will that Ian Hill be in 12 months? Looks like a super exciting player with all the skills and blistering pace. Oscar Allen also looks the good as a forward. Can see Freo snapping him up in the draft.

 

[briztoon]

Yeah I've heard those comments too, might've been Cal Twomey? To be honest, that seems like crap. You could easily twist the notion to focus on how his actions and his professionalism is a testament to how badly he wants to make the grade? He's a 17-year-old, there's still development in him even if he is already, in a way, a full-time athlete.

I'd be absolutely wrapped if we picked him up in the teens and I'd back him in to eventually become a best 22 mid.

You don't have to twist it. Twomey has said both in the same paragraph.

Haven't seen footage of Higgins, but the impression I get is he plays similar to Caleb Daniels from the Dogs.

Would this be an accurate comparison?

The most common comparison that's been mentioned by multiple people is Lewis Taylor from previous seasons, that runs in circles and chips sideways and is not particularly damaging.

 

[M Malice]

You can see that our spine is really starting to stand up and believe that's why we won today. You can see when you draft players that have talent and also footskills it goes along way to helping win a game as evidenced by Witherden and McCluggage. Hope that the club stays on this thread of drafting these types. The difference maker will be to keep building our midfield depth and will be the reason we start winning more games.

IIRC it was Stephen Conole who said at or pre draft last year that we will be placing a premium on drafting elite kicks hence the top 4 we drafted last year, also Mitchell Hinge is supposedly a very good kick.

I've asked a few questions re kicking skills of our BF phantom drafters and some of the names that have come up for us to look at this year with elite kicks are- Rayner, Cerra, Coffield, O'Brien and Clark.

 

[jjami15]

IIRC it was Stephen Conole who said at or pre draft last year that we will be placing a premium on drafting elite kicks hence the top 4 we drafted last year, also Mitchell Hinge is supposedly a very good kick.

I've asked a few questions re kicking skills of our BF phantom drafters and some of the names that have come up for us to look at this year with elite kicks are- Rayner, Cerra, Coffield, O'Brien and Clark.

I'm warming to Coffield especially if the club sees Witherden's future as a midfielder. I am a big fan of O'Brien but can't see him falling out of the top 10.

 

[M Malice]

Draft picks on current ladder positions. Can see us ending up with pick 1-3, 8-12 and 18-22 at this stage, Port to implode. Best case scenario, we avoid the spoon and we have picks 3, 8 and 18.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Nice to see GWS out of the first round for once.

They'll be back in if they lose Kelly though obviously.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Not bad at all, actually. I'd say Daniels is probably more damaging with his disposal. Higgins is more of an accumulator.

Daniels is also quite a bit quicker. I see Jack as a less skilled version of Robbie Gray. Despite what some say though he is good overhead. It goes without saying that all 18 year olds have development in them and he no less than the others. If he is played forward he will be a goal scorer with the added advantage that he does get a lot of the ball. I'd prefer Stephenson but I doubt we would take him at 1 or 2 and he will be well and truly gone by our second pick. As for Higgins not playing APS footy, he will get greater development playing TAC Cup and rep footy than he would ever get at school.

 

[acuguy]

Lochie O'Brien impressed me the most from the games i watched on the weekend. Just has an AFL weapon left foot and a hunger for the footy.

 

[Carlos Danger]

So who's the consensus pick 2? Reckon we're gonna sneak into 17th. Our post bye footy has been a massive improvement. Pushing good teams and beating anyone slightly off. Geelong have been inconsistent this year and we have Carlton, north, suns and dogs still to play.

Think there's still a long way go, we could win 5 or 6 & still be bottom. North have only lost by about 20 points or less most games. There not going to lose all their remaining games - if they win 2 we would still have to win 4 to get ahead of them

 

[Len S]

IIRC it was Stephen Conole who said at or pre draft last year that we will be placing a premium on drafting elite kicks hence the top 4 we drafted last year, also Mitchell Hinge is supposedly a very good kick.

I've asked a few questions re kicking skills of our BF phantom drafters and some of the names that have come up for us to look at this year with elite kicks are- Rayner, Cerra, Coffield, O'Brien and Clark.

Hinge IS an elite kick,and is highly regarded, very strong over the ball.

 

[Panthera]

Nice to see GWS out of the first round for once.

They'll be back in if they lose Kelly though obviously.

Perhaps they'd like our first pick for Kelly

 

[dizzysquizz]

I'm warming to Coffield especially if the club sees Witherden's future as a midfielder. I am a big fan of O'Brien but can't see him falling out of the top 10.

Yeah Coffield is one I have liked, saw one phantom drafter describe him as McLuggage esque the way can evade traffic, and set other players up, he is also Northern Knights captain which is another huge tick in my book.

 

[BigCat2]

Yeah Coffield is one I have liked, saw one phantom drafter describe him as McLuggage esque the way can evade traffic, and set other players up, he is also Northern Knights captain which is another huge tick in my book.

I'm the opposite. The fact that he's a Vic Metro boy is a cross in my book.