List Mgmt. 2017 draft thread

[Boob_Radley]

I was just listening to the Road to the Draft with Cal Twomey, who has felt pretty close to the mark in the past few years.

He said it's looking increasingly likely that Naish will drop past our first three picks and we won't have to match. He mentioned Bulldogs as the only ones who might look at nominating him.

He also said he is sick of people saying Naish is not a good kick because he is 'a very good kick'.

As good at Nat Edwards is at her job, I'd like either the AFL or the club to employ the young woman from the Trivago ad because her voice makes me tumescent. Although they've changed her persona a bit to be more outgoing; I preferred when she spoke calmly, reminded me of when I would get in trouble at kindergarten for tugging as I went down the slide in the playground. The teacher would take me aside and say, 'now Boob, we've been through this before: you know you can't touch yourself down there when you're in the yard' and I would be slightly embarrassed but feel quite tranquil, unjudged. Then I'd run out into the yard with my pants down waggling my dick around yelling 'WHERE ARE THE FISHING RODS CAMPAIGNERS BECAUSE IVE GOT LIVE BAIT!'

 

[THE_GUN]

I was just listening to the Road to the Draft with Cal Twomey, who has felt pretty close to the mark in the past few years.

He said it's looking increasingly likely that Naish will drop past our first three picks and we won't have to match. He mentioned Bulldogs as the only ones who might look at nominating him.

He also said he is sick of people saying Naish is not a good kick because he is 'a very good kick'.

As good at Nat Edwards is at her job, I'd like either the AFL or the club to employ the young woman from the Trivago ad because her voice makes me tumescent. Although they've changed her persona a bit to be more outgoing; I preferred when she spoke calmly, reminded me of when I would get in trouble at kindergarten for tugging as I went down the slide in the playground. The teacher would take me aside and say, 'now Boob, we've been through this before: you know you can't touch yourself down there when you're in the yard' and I would be slightly embarrassed but feel quite tranquil, unjudged. Then I'd run out into the yard with my pants down waggling my dick around yelling 'WHERE ARE THE FISHING RODS CAMPAIGNERS BECAUSE IVE GOT LIVE BAIT!'

Suprise Suprise ................. Most Junior watchers were saying this 3 months ago when Twomey was saying #12

 

[Cotchy9]

Would be a HUGE bonus to have 17,20,25 to use on other guys and take Naish with the 50's picks

 

[Bobby Sands]

That is waaaaaay to broad a statement and basically not really accurate.

Pray, tell.

More than comfortable with this topic.

 

[Bojangles17]

I think people are getting too caught up in our teams needs. Blair has said in the past that "you draft best available and trade for need"

I don't expect that MO to change given our success. I think we'll end up with one tall because that's the way things will fall but I won't be surprised if that's the only tall we take...

Agreed , a fools paradise drafting a 6"4 truck if he s half as good as a versatile mid that we overlook in the process . That said I expect there to be decent tall stock remaining at 20-25 as we well know that clubs typical feast on mids r1, so we get leftovers which I expect to be talls

 

[Cotchy9]

If we don't have to use any of the first 3 picks on Naish then we can all of a sudden go something like 2 of Allen, Hayes, Balta etc and then get a mid like Worpel

 

[Calcium Man]

I think people are getting too caught up in our teams needs. Blair has said in the past that "you draft best available and trade for need"

I don't expect that MO to change given our success. I think we'll end up with one tall because that's the way things will fall but I won't be surprised if that's the only tall we take...

As i've said before i'm happy if we use only 1 of the 3 picks on a tall and find a ruck late.

Personally i'd love both of balta and brander but not sure if thats likely, but we get one of them and 2 of that group of 2nd tier mids like L Fogerty, O'Brien, Bailey, Petruccelle, Ling, Richards etc... it could be a very good draft.

 

[Tango67]

He's also a KPF who kicked 6 in a half.

He kicked 6 because he is 2 ft taller than the kids he was playing on and won't have that luxury at AFL, stay clear until late IMO, can't run and is a pure ruck IMO.

 

[Cotchy9]

Is there any chance Hunter Clark slips to 17? Really like him

 

[smurfin]

Draft best available? Rather than need ?
OK, who would be best available if Rance, Riewoldt & Cotchin were all available? (I'll leave Dusty out of the equation).
Very arguable who is "best available" of them. I would draft which position has the biggest need.

 

[Stylo]

I swear the AFL's draft coverage is somehow getting worse every year. Unless I'm missing something, there's still no draft hub active with 16 days to go.

 

[TigerSE]

I swear the AFL's draft coverage is somehow getting worse every year. Unless I'm missing something, there's still no draft hub active with 16 days to go.

It doesn’t compare to what the NFL dish up

 

[bananatigz]

I swear the AFL's draft coverage is somehow getting worse every year. Unless I'm missing something, there's still no draft hub active with 16 days to go.

It opened up really late last year if I recall correctly.

 

[El Duderino]

I'm not really liking this draft tbh, particularly the tall forwards, don't really rate any of them and unfortunately that's our biggest need. Balta is intriguing, looks like an elite athlete but probably more a defender. Would've preferred we traded picks into next years draft.

I say we just go best available, if that means mids then so be it. I wouldn't rule out bidding on Crossley at 17 either, would prevent Gold Coast from bidding on Naish, guaranteeing we can use pick 20. Plus we don't have much behind Nank and if Jack goes down, we could play Nank forward if GC don't match.

 

[DontArgue4]

Would be a HUGE bonus to have 17,20,25 to use on other guys and take Naish with the 50's picks

Could set us up for years i reckon

3 top 25 kids, at least one is bound to be a gem PLUS naish who i rate highly

 

[DoItForCaptBlood]

I'm not really liking this draft tbh, particularly the tall forwards, don't really rate any of them and unfortunately that's our biggest need. Balta is intriguing, looks like an elite athlete but probably more a defender. Would've preferred we traded picks into next years draft.

I say we just go best available, if that means mids then so be it. I wouldn't rule out bidding on Crossley at 17 either, would prevent Gold Coast from bidding on Naish, guaranteeing we can use pick 20. Plus we don't have much behind Nank and if Jack goes down, we could play Nank forward if GC don't match.

In the extremely unlikely event we did take Crossley, surely you arent suggesting an 18 year old kid plays 1st ruck?

 

[El Duderino]

In the extremely unlikely event we did take Crossley, surely you arent suggesting an 18 year old kid plays 1st ruck?

No, Griff and Hampson are obviously the short term solution but going forward it's just an alternate plan to picking up a tall forward i don't rate.

 

[DoItForCaptBlood]

No, Griff and Hampson are obviously the short term solution but going forward it's just an alternate plan to picking up a tall forward i don't rate.

Have you heard Crossley's name mentioned in any top 30 discussions? You must rate him?

 

[Calcium Man]

Draft best available? Rather than need ?
OK, who would be best available if Rance, Riewoldt & Cotchin were all available? (I'll leave Dusty out of the equation).
Very arguable who is "best available" of them. I would draft which position has the biggest need.

Rance not even a contest.

Out of Jack and Cotchin i'd probably just go Cotchin for his leadership.

 

[parmy2balmey]

and now he's best 22 in a top 4 team. Some crap logic you're trying to apply here... Are you trying to say Naish is only worth a rookie pick because that's where Zac was taken??

no just adding detail to the picture, don’t choke on yourself

but i will say naish isn’t walking in at williams’ level, it’s a speculative projection of where naish could get to. what is williams’ worth? pick 14? fk n overs imo but if that’s his value then I’ll take him over what is currently a fairytale child yet to be drafted. these footyology pundits must rate naish a near cert

nice bit of perspective though, I reckon that type of player coming out of juniors is a second to forth round pick. naish looks no better than menadue or markov. first round is a reach. but who really gaf. only the draft warriors and that ain’t me campaigner

 

[THE THIN MAN]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/th...s/news-story/cee26703cdbf8a2c49974da375f15477

 

[Toadvine]

no just adding detail to the picture, don’t choke on yourself

but i will say naish isn’t walking in at williams’ level, it’s a speculative projection of where naish could get to. what is williams’ worth? pick 14? fk n overs imo but if that’s his value then I’ll take him over what is currently a fairytale child yet to be drafted. these footyology pundits must rate naish a near cert

nice bit of perspective though, I reckon that type of player coming out of juniors is a second to forth round pick. naish looks no better than menadue or markov. first round is a reach. but who really gaf. only the draft warriors and that ain’t me campaigner

You're the one getting upset over a comparison. It's a guide to give people an idea as to his playing style not an indication of his ceiling. Most say he plays his best footy in the forward line so it's not a great comparison to me.

Someone compared him to De Goey a few weeks back would that make you happier that he was a top 10 pick? Probably not because you've got NFI.

 

[_RT_]

He kicked 6 because he is 2 ft taller than the kids he was playing on and won't have that luxury at AFL, stay clear until late IMO, can't run and is a pure ruck IMO.

Fair call, I'm happy to stick with him as I believe if we got him he'll deliver on his potential, Hayes might be 1-2 feet taller than most of the guys he played against but he is still a 2 time U18 All Australian, you don't get that sort of accolade if you're no good.

As I said the other day we're in a position this year to draft for long term success rather than immediate impact. If we got the likes of Hayes Naish and Taylor with the first 3 picks we round out our list nicely and can give all 3 of them, plus the 2 picks in the 50's a couple of years of development before we need to call on them. IMO we have plenty of kids already on the list that we need to get up and going next year i.e. C.Ellis Menadue Markov Moore Garthwaite Short Bolton & Stengle.

 

[Mr Magic]

I have found another Tiger supporter that could be drafted this year.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messe...s/news-story/90ac44ad0522c6166182cef9f53c72ff

It mentions his beloved Tigers and with his height and movement certainly would bring something different to our structure and mix.

Gotta say has me curious and on the AFL website in a post atm. Having Jack Graham from SA would be no disadvantage either to support any development at Tigerland

 

[parmy2balmey]

You're the one getting upset over a comparison. It's a guide to give people an idea as to his playing style not an indication of his ceiling. Most say he plays his best footy in the forward line so it's not a great comparison to me.

Someone compared him to De Goey a few weeks back would that make you happier that he was a top 10 pick? Probably not because you've got NFI.

hahahaha nice knickers, well done