Fixture 2017 Fixture

[eth-dog]

Etihad is ******* perfect for me.

So we absolutely have to leave.

Fixed

 

[Lore]

How many Sunday games will we get? The AFL does the fixtures based on results, expect to see the Gaints, Dogs and Cats play more prime time slots, every team usually gets a Friday night ( take away from last year Suns and Giants ) which will likely change. I am a fan of Sunday games, the early 1:10 slot is perfect, that 4:40 slot will likely be axed.

I am predicting we will have anywhere between 8-12 sunday games with a round one blockbuster against a traditional rival. Wont be Hawthorn, they play Geelong, could be Carlton, although if rumours are true they will play Norf on Good Friday. Won't be Collingwood because of ANZAC day. I am predicting either Richmond or Melbourne on the Thursday night before Good Friday.

Actually, I was looking into that the other day... and then didn't post because it's quite stat-heavy. haha. The most interesting bit is probably at the end.

The weighted fixture system is weird, and seems to be discretionary as well as following their guidelines. High-drawing timeslots are weighted towards better performing teams, with interstate teams dodging certain scenarios (probably to lessen the impact of travelling so often). We're the only team in the bottom 6 to play in any Friday night games - we had 2. Presumably because the AFL considered that our finish last year wasn't representative of what our team is capable of, although they might have had other considerations. We also didn't have a return fixture against a top 6 team.

http://www.afl.com.au/fixture/fixture-explained

Top six: Clubs ranked 1-6 on the 2015 ladder will have a minimum of two and maximum of three return meetings with other top six clubs. They will have a minimum of one and maximum of two return meetings with clubs ranked 7-12. They will have either no return meetings or a maximum of one return meeting with clubs ranked 13-18.

2016 fixture based on 2015 top 6:
Hawthorn (2 Thursdays, 6 Fridays, 8 Saturdays, 5 Sundays, 1 Monday) 3 top six, 1 middle six, 1 bottom six played return fixture.
West Coast Eagles (1 Thursday, 3 Fridays, 9 Saturdays, 9 Sundays) 3 top six, 1 middle six, 1 bottom six.
Fremantle (0 Thursdays, 2 Fridays, 13 Saturdays, 7 Sundays) 2 top six, 2 middle six, 1 bottom six.
North Melbourne (1 Thursday, 5 Fridays, 12 Saturdays, 4 Sundays) 3 top six, 1 middle six, 1 bottom six.
Sydney Swans (1 Thursday, 3 Fridays, 13 Saturdays, 5 Sundays) 2 top six, 2 middle six, 1 bottom six.
Adelaide Crows (1 Thursday, 3 Fridays, 13 Saturdays, 5 Sundays) 3 top six, 2 middle six, 0 bottom six.

2016 top 6:
Western Bulldogs
Sydney Swans
Geelong
Greater Western Sydney
Hawthorn
Adelaide Crows

Middle six: Clubs ranked 7-12 on the 2015 ladder will have a minimum of one and maximum of two return meetings with clubs ranked 1-6 on the ladder. They will have a minimum of two and maximum of three return meetings with other middle six clubs. They will have a minimum of one and maximum of two return meetings with clubs ranked 13-18.

2016 fixture based on 2015 middle 6:
Richmond (1 Thursday, 6 Fridays, 11 Saturdays, 4 Sundays) 2 top six, 2 middle six, 1 bottom six.
Western Bulldogs (0 Thursdays, 3 Fridays, 11 Saturdays, 8 Sundays) 2 top six, 2 middle six, 1 bottom six.
Port Adelaide (1 Thursday, 2 Fridays, 13 Saturdays, 6 Sundays) 1 top six, 2 middle six, 2 bottom six.
Geelong Cats (0 Thursdays, 4 Fridays, 11 Saturdays, 6 Sundays, 1 Monday) 1 top six, 2 middle six, 2 bottom six.
GWS GIANTS (0 Thursdays, 0 Fridays, 14 Saturdays, 8 Sundays) 2 top six, 2 middle six, 1 bottom six.
Collingwood (0 Thursdays, 5 Fridays, 10 Saturdays, 5 Sundays, 2 Mondays) 1 top six, 2 middle six, 2 bottom six.

2016 middle 6:
West Coast Eagles
North Melbourne
St Kilda
Port Adelaide
Melbourne
Collingwood

Bottom six: Clubs ranked 13-18 on the 2015 ladder will have either no return meeting or a maximum of one return meeting with clubs ranked 1-6. They will have a minimum of one or a maximum of two return meetings with clubs ranked 7-12. They will have a minimum of two and a maximum of three return meetings with other bottom six clubs.

2016 fixture based on 2015 bottom 6:
Melbourne (0 Thursdays, 0 Fridays, 11 Saturdays, 10 Sundays, 1 Monday) 1 top six, 2 middle six, 2 bottom six.
St Kilda (0 Thursdays, 0 Fridays, 11 Saturdays, 11 Sundays) 1 top six, 1 middle six, 3 bottom six.
Essendon (1 Thursday, 2 Fridays, 9 Saturdays, 9 Sundays, 1 Monday) 0 top six, 2 middle six, 3 bottom six.
Gold Coast SUNS (0 Thursdays, 0 Fridays, 17 Saturdays, 5 Sundays) 1 top six, 1 middle six, 3 bottom six.
Brisbane Lions (0 Thursdays, 0 Fridays, 13 Saturdays, 9 Sundays) 1 top six, 2 middle six, 2 bottom six.
Carlton (1 Thursday, 0 Fridays, 11 Saturdays, 10 Sundays) 1 top six, 1 middle six, 3 bottom six.

2016 bottom 6:
Richmond
Carlton
Gold Coast
Fremantle
Brisbane Lions
Essendon



Overall (198 H&A games, 18 teams);
5 Thursday games, played between 5 top six, 2 middle six and 2 bottom six teams. (including 4/8 interstate teams)
22 Friday games, played between 6 top six, 5 middle six and 1 bottom six teams (including 5/8 interstate teams)
105 Saturday games, played by all teams.
63 Sunday games, played by all teams.
3 Monday games, 1 top six, 2 middle six and 2 bottom six teams (none were interstate teams)

Top six
60% of Thursday spots
50% of Friday spots
32% of Saturday spots
28% of Sunday spots
17% of Monday spots

Middle six
20% of Thursday spots
45% of Friday spots
33% of Saturday spots
28% of Sunday spots
50% of Monday spots

Bottom six
20% of Thursday spots
5% of Friday spots
34% of Saturday spots
43% of Sunday spots
33% of Monday spots

Interstate teams (176 games, 8 teams);
4/10 Thursday spots were interstate teams, 3 top six and 1 middle six.
13/44 Friday spots were interstate teams, 11 top six and 2 middle six.
105/210 Saturday spots were interstate teams, 48 top six, 27 middle six, 30 bottom six.
54/126 Sunday spots were interstate teams, 26 top six, 14 middle six, 14 bottom six.

Essendon played in;
1/5 Thursday games
2/22 Friday games
9/105 Saturday games
9/63 Sunday games
1/3 Monday games

 

[freddy mercury]

Actually, I was looking into that the other day... and then didn't post because it's quite stat-heavy. haha. The most interesting bit is probably at the end.

The weighted fixture system is weird, and seems to be discretionary as well as following their guidelines. High-drawing timeslots are weighted towards better performing teams, with interstate teams dodging certain scenarios (probably to lessen the impact of travelling so often). We're the only team in the bottom 6 to play in any Friday night games - we had 2. Presumably because the AFL considered that our finish last year wasn't representative of what our team is capable of, although they might have had other considerations. We also didn't have a return fixture against a top 6 team.

http://www.afl.com.au/fixture/fixture-explained



2016 fixture based on 2015 top 6:
Hawthorn (2 Thursdays, 6 Fridays, 8 Saturdays, 5 Sundays, 1 Monday) 3 top six, 1 middle six, 1 bottom six played return fixture.
West Coast Eagles (1 Thursday, 3 Fridays, 9 Saturdays, 9 Sundays) 3 top six, 1 middle six, 1 bottom six.
Fremantle (0 Thursdays, 2 Fridays, 13 Saturdays, 7 Sundays) 2 top six, 2 middle six, 1 bottom six.
North Melbourne (1 Thursday, 5 Fridays, 12 Saturdays, 4 Sundays) 3 top six, 1 middle six, 1 bottom six.
Sydney Swans (1 Thursday, 3 Fridays, 13 Saturdays, 5 Sundays) 2 top six, 2 middle six, 1 bottom six.
Adelaide Crows (1 Thursday, 3 Fridays, 13 Saturdays, 5 Sundays) 3 top six, 2 middle six, 0 bottom six.

2016 top 6:
Western Bulldogs
Sydney Swans
Geelong
Greater Western Sydney
Hawthorn
Adelaide Crows



2016 fixture based on 2015 middle 6:
Richmond (1 Thursday, 6 Fridays, 11 Saturdays, 4 Sundays) 2 top six, 2 middle six, 1 bottom six.
Western Bulldogs (0 Thursdays, 3 Fridays, 11 Saturdays, 8 Sundays) 2 top six, 2 middle six, 1 bottom six.
Port Adelaide (1 Thursday, 2 Fridays, 13 Saturdays, 6 Sundays) 1 top six, 2 middle six, 2 bottom six.
Geelong Cats (0 Thursdays, 4 Fridays, 11 Saturdays, 6 Sundays, 1 Monday) 1 top six, 2 middle six, 2 bottom six.
GWS GIANTS (0 Thursdays, 0 Fridays, 14 Saturdays, 8 Sundays) 2 top six, 2 middle six, 1 bottom six.
Collingwood (0 Thursdays, 5 Fridays, 10 Saturdays, 5 Sundays, 2 Mondays) 1 top six, 2 middle six, 2 bottom six.

2016 middle 6:
West Coast Eagles
North Melbourne
St Kilda
Port Adelaide
Melbourne
Collingwood



2016 fixture based on 2015 bottom 6:
Melbourne (0 Thursdays, 0 Fridays, 11 Saturdays, 10 Sundays, 1 Monday) 1 top six, 2 middle six, 2 bottom six.
St Kilda (0 Thursdays, 0 Fridays, 11 Saturdays, 11 Sundays) 1 top six, 1 middle six, 3 bottom six.
Essendon (1 Thursday, 2 Fridays, 9 Saturdays, 9 Sundays, 1 Monday) 0 top six, 2 middle six, 3 bottom six.
Gold Coast SUNS (0 Thursdays, 0 Fridays, 17 Saturdays, 5 Sundays) 1 top six, 1 middle six, 3 bottom six.
Brisbane Lions (0 Thursdays, 0 Fridays, 13 Saturdays, 9 Sundays) 1 top six, 2 middle six, 2 bottom six.
Carlton (1 Thursday, 0 Fridays, 11 Saturdays, 10 Sundays) 1 top six, 1 middle six, 3 bottom six.

2016 bottom 6:
Richmond
Carlton
Gold Coast
Fremantle
Brisbane Lions
Essendon



Overall (198 H&A games, 18 teams);
5 Thursday games, played between 5 top six, 2 middle six and 2 bottom six teams. (including 4/8 interstate teams)
22 Friday games, played between 6 top six, 5 middle six and 1 bottom six teams (including 5/8 interstate teams)
105 Saturday games, played by all teams.
63 Sunday games, played by all teams.
3 Monday games, 1 top six, 2 middle six and 2 bottom six teams (none were interstate teams)

Top six
60% of Thursday spots
50% of Friday spots
32% of Saturday spots
28% of Sunday spots
17% of Monday spots

Middle six
20% of Thursday spots
45% of Friday spots
33% of Saturday spots
28% of Sunday spots
50% of Monday spots

Bottom six
20% of Thursday spots
5% of Friday spots
34% of Saturday spots
43% of Sunday spots
33% of Monday spots

Interstate teams (176 games, 8 teams);
4/10 Thursday spots were interstate teams, 3 top six and 1 middle six.
13/44 Friday spots were interstate teams, 11 top six and 2 middle six.
105/210 Saturday spots were interstate teams, 48 top six, 27 middle six, 30 bottom six.
54/126 Sunday spots were interstate teams, 26 top six, 14 middle six, 14 bottom six.

Essendon played in;
1/5 Thursday games
2/22 Friday games
9/105 Saturday games
9/63 Sunday games
1/3 Monday games

Ah fantastic, did not even know there was that page, good guide. Looks as though going by that we can get a good read on when we will play and who.
Looks as though we will play the top 6 sides once which is good. Hopefully we play Brisbane, Carlton, Richmond, Port, North twice, will give us 10-12 wins, I expect us to win those games. Pinch a few others, we always match up against Collingwood well. Looking at 13-15 wins.

Is that too wishful?

 

[Lore]

Ah fantastic, did not even know there was that page, good guide. Looks as though going by that we can get a good read on when we will play and who.
Looks as though we will play the top 6 sides once which is good. Hopefully we play Brisbane, Carlton, Richmond, Port, North twice, will give us 10-12 wins, I expect us to win those games. Pinch a few others, we always match up against Collingwood well. Looking at 13-15 wins.

Is that too wishful?

Well worst case scenario is one return fixture against a top six team, two with middle six teams, and two with bottom six teams.... and a crap ton of stupid timeslots by virtue of the wooden spoon.

Best case scenario is probably what we had this year over again. I don't think there's too much chance of getting more good time slots, because we already had more than anyone else in the bottom six this year.

Or, if we're stupid lucky, we get the match-ups of a wooden-spooner with some sort of 'what we're really capable of when we have all our players' timeslots.

 

[freddy mercury]

Well worst case scenario is one return fixture against a top six team, two with middle six teams, and two with bottom six teams.... and a crap ton of stupid timeslots by virtue of the wooden spoon.

Best case scenario is probably what we had this year over again. I don't think there's too much chance of getting more good time slots, because we already had more than anyone else in the bottom six this year.

Or, if we're stupid lucky, we get the match-ups of a wooden-spooner with some sort of 'what we're really capable of when we have all our players' timeslots.

I dont think time slots matter, I am only worried for myself, I purchased a high mark membership then realized I need to work Sundays. 880 bucks isn't a lot of money, but it is when you purchase something you cant lose.

But enough about myself, time slots and days dont matter for us as much because we will have a very similar draw like you said, with our team coming back all together vs the teams will we will play, we should win, on paper anyway. Can't see the AFL changing the formula just because we will be a lot better than the usual bottom side, they've punished us enough, surely they wont.

 

[LB#16]

Etihad is ******* perfect for me.

So we absolutely have to stay there.

It's perfect for me to get to. But I prefer watching games at the G by a long way so I'm a little confused as to what stadium I prefer to see Essendon play all their home games at. If they renovate Docklands Stadium, which I suspect they will, there's no question.

 

[Vindicater]

Hope we get North twice...

 

[JayJ20]

Hope we get North twice...

So we can smack them twice.

I'm guessing that we have Brisbane, Carlton, Richmond, Collingwood and GWS twice

Bottom 6
3
Middle 6
1
Top 6
1

Beat Brisbane and Carlton twice. Split the games with Collingwood and Richmond. Split it with GWS or lose twice.

We usually have an Etihad tennant twice though, so in that case, replace GWS with Bulldogs.

 

[Skipper_]

Ideal doubles would be Brisbane, Carlton, Richmond, Collingwood and Hawthorn IMO.

 

[Benny Don]

Ideal doubles would be Brisbane, Carlton, Richmond, Collingwood and Hawthorn IMO.

And North

 

[Lore]

And North

We almost never get a double against North.

 

[JayJ20]

We hardly play Adelaide, Brisbane, North, Port and Melbourne twice. Even Geelong this year was probably the second time in a decade or so. Haven't played Melbourne twice since is it 2005 now? I think the last time we played Adelaide, Fremantle and Brisbane twice was 2009.

Get West Coast and Sydney regularly out of the interstate sides. Pretty much rotate between St Kilda and Bulldogs every year.

 

[Darealrath]

Can we go back and pick a team worse than Melbourne for round 1? I want Hawthorn.

 

[JayJ20]

Can we go back and pick a team worse than Melbourne for round 1? I want Hawthorn.

I think it'll be between Hawthorn and Melbourne.

MCG home game that is not Richmond, Collingwood, Carlton or Geelong.

Leaves one of those two.

I'll go a step further and say that we might play Melbourne and Hawthorn in the first 3 rounds.

 

[eth-dog]

Hopefully Melbourne get the home game against us this year and I'm pretty sure it's Geelong's turn to host the Country Game

 

[JayJ20]

Hopefully Melbourne get the home game against us this year and I'm pretty sure it's Geelong's turn to host the Country Game

If our request is fulfilled, then we'd host Melbourne round one.

About time that we play them twice though, so I hope they get a home game as well

 

[eth-dog]

If our request is fulfilled, then we'd host Melbourne round one.

About time that we play them twice though, so I hope they get a home game as well

Is it definite that we asked for Melbourne? I was hoping for Hawthorn.

 

[JayJ20]

Is it definite that we asked for Melbourne? I was hoping for Hawthorn.

It waa reported that we asked for Melbourne round 1 MCG on a Friday night.

Hope Hawthorn is round 2

 

[Maddogm]

Do Hawthorn usually play Geelong Rd 1?

 

[eth-dog]

Do Hawthorn usually play Geelong Rd 1?

Only on Easter weekends (which is probably round 2 this year)

 

[THOMO_31]

Looks like we are getting that round 1 friday night home match. Hawks or dees

 

[JayJ20]

Either game would be massive, but Essendon vs Hawthorn would be 85K+, maybe even more. Surely a sellout.

Essendon vs Melbourne will also be 80K+.

 

[Doss]

Essendon vs Melbourne will also be 80K+.

Very unlikely.

 

[JayJ20]

Very unlikely.

We drew 88K vs a wooden spooner Richmond in 2007 for the Hird and Sheedy game. We weren't great either.

Melbourne will have a lot of support as well due to off season hype. Of course, we'll have some hype as it'll be the player's first time back. A game not to miss for many. MCC will be full with the 2 most supported teams in the MCC.

80k+ is achievable. Most likely 75K-80K IMO

 

[Doss]

If we get 70k versus Melbourne we've done well. They're not that high drawing a team.