Position 2017 Forwards

[heatedwire]

Is anyone taking a punt on Cam McCarthy?

 

[poido]

Is anyone taking a punt on Cam McCarthy?

Nope.


His scoring is entirely reliant on kicking goals and taking marks. Even when he does that he doesn't score that big.

 

[TheOz]

I was massively impressed with that JLT2 game, but calmed on him in the 3rd game.

I think he will be a great player, but for now I'm happy to sit and watch, leaving him out of my team for now.

He played Carlton reserves in JLT2.

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

1 decision for my team left. Just trying to lock down the spot at F2. Down to Lance Franklin, jack Macrae, Tom Lynch (GC) and Toby Greene. Luke Dahlhaus, Shaun Higgins, Jarryd Roughead, Tim Taranto, Dan Butler, Dan Houstan and Brett Eddy is the rest of my forwardline.

Best bet for top 6 is Macrae
Highest potential average is Greene
POD is Tom Lynch
Go with the norm and pick Franklin.

Thoughts?

I would go Buddy or Lynch and in fact they are my F1 and F2.

They both can go very very big. If you look through Dal and McCraes scores they rarely go 120+.

Just 1 opinion though.

 

[MightyMark]

Greene's upside is essentially tied to how much time he spends on ball?

With that, his upside is limited. GWS midfield is stacked in that department.

His time in the mids wont decrease from last year, and he has proven he doesn't need huge possessions to ton up, 8 of his 12 tons last year had under 25 touches.

I would go Buddy or Lynch and in fact they are my F1 and F2.

They both can go very very big. If you look through Dal and McCraes scores they rarely go 120+.

Just 1 opinion though.

Buddy and Lynch can both go big, but the flip side to that is they can do the opposite as well.

Consistency is a massive factor, its the reason KPP's are not favored. I'd rather Dahl scoring 100 every week, than 130 one week and 70 the next.

 

[Jcpdragonx]

His time in the mids wont decrease from last year, and he has proven he doesn't need huge possessions to ton up, 8 of his 12 tons last year had under 25 touches.


Buddy and Lynch can both go big, but the flip side to that is they can do the opposite as well.

Consistency is a massive factor, its the reason KPP's are not favored. I'd rather Dahl scoring 100 every week, than 130 one week and 70 the next.

This is why I think this is the year to go deep in the mids and shallow up front. KPF will be much easier to trade in.

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

His time in the mids wont decrease from last year, and he has proven he doesn't need huge possessions to ton up, 8 of his 12 tons last year had under 25 touches.


Buddy and Lynch can both go big, but the flip side to that is they can do the opposite as well.

Consistency is a massive factor, its the reason KPP's are not favored. I'd rather Dahl scoring 100 every week, than 130 one week and 70 the next.

Yeah it's risk vs reward.

I just have a feeling Lynch will be a lot more consistent this year and won't have many games under 90 whilst still having the ability to go bananas.

 

[poido]

His time in the mids wont decrease from last year, and he has proven he doesn't need huge possessions to ton up, 8 of his 12 tons last year had under 25 touches.


Buddy and Lynch can both go big, but the flip side to that is they can do the opposite as well.

Consistency is a massive factor, its the reason KPP's are not favored. I'd rather Dahl scoring 100 every week, than 130 one week and 70 the next.

I do like that coniglio is out a few weeks which would only help Greene's cause for more onball time. You make a good point about low possession count to get his points and he loves to tackle, which is great for SC.

I'm onboard the Greene train. Out you go Higgins

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I personally think Roughead is a nothing pick. You don't pick him at that price to make money and you'd expect he'll miss games. I predict he'll average low 90's at best, so Greene

At his price I'll take a low 90's average from Roughead ........but given what you're saying what does that say about a Nankervis pick as a forward, or even a ruck ? .....exactly the same argument is applied, except Roughead has the runs on the board

 

[stevebbb]

Greene's upside is essentially tied to how much time he spends on ball?

With that, his upside is limited. GWS midfield is stacked in that department.

I agree
Stay away from that scrub
Greene is shit
Worst SC forward pick this




ty

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Even if he averages 90-95, he'll play like 16 or 17 games at most I think; I just can't pick him due to the fact he'll be managed quite a bit. The Hawks will be in no position to risk him, and any time he feels ill or simply not with it, they'll give him the week off.

Says who? ..... Roughead wouldn't have been made captain under those circumstances ......opinion doesn't equal fact

 

[MightyMark]

This is why I think this is the year to go deep in the mids and shallow up front. KPF will be much easier to trade in.

I agree going shallow up front, but for me it stems more from the lack of premo options.

In years past we have had some solid midfielders to choose from with DPP status, Martin, Gray, Zorko, Parker, Merret, Bonts, Sidebottom, etc.

Guys that were already relatively proven scorers who were already spending the bulk of their time in the midfield. We just dont have anyone in that vein this year.

Other than Dahl and Macrae, there are no top notch FWD/MID players this year. There just isn't as much value at the top end of the FWD's this year IMO.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Trying to figure out another premo for my forward currenty got this set up

Dahl, buddy, nank, hoskin-Elliot, Taranto, McCarthy

What premo should I get in and why need reasons to get a player in not just cause someone likes them and also thoughts on McCarthy? Is he worth it or not

Question ....in the absence of true rookies at rookie prices, won't you have difficulty generating enough money quick enough to upgrade to premiums ???

That's my debate as to whether i hold my F4 premo, or downgrade to two x $200K rookies ....Taranto & WHE???

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I was massively impressed with that JLT2 game, but calmed on him in the 3rd game.

I think he will be a great player, but for now I'm happy to sit and watch, leaving him out of my team for now.

Until Petracca starts running thru the midfield more than as just a bit player ....he's a no for me

 

[poido]

I agree going shallow up front, but for me it stems more from the lack of premo options.

In years past we have had some solid midfielders to choose from with DPP status, Martin, Gray, Zorko, Parker, Merret, Bonts, Sidebottom, etc.

Guys that were already relatively proven scorers who were already spending the bulk of their time in the midfield. We just dont have anyone in that vein this year.

Other than Dahl and Macrae, there are no top notch FWD/MID players this year. There just isn't as much value at the top end of the FWD's this year IMO.

With knowing that, you would be mad not to start with Riewoldt for the first half of the season with his track record at Etihad and a guaranteed 100+

 

[MightyMark]

Says who? ..... Roughead wouldn't have been made captain under those circumstances ......opinion doesn't equal fact

The guy hasn't played footy for a year, and he wasn't exactly spending his time in the gym. He is also 30 now, so it isn't inconceivable to think he may be given a few more breaks whilst he gets back into it, and fair enough as well.

 

[Souup]

At his price I'll take a low 90's average from Roughead ........but given what you're saying what does that say about a Nankervis pick as a forward, or even a ruck ? .....exactly the same argument is applied, except Roughead has the runs on the board

The main reason I'm picking Nankervis is he offers ruck cover for Sandilands. In addition to this there's no reason to suspect he'll miss games and he had a stellar preseason. Im happy with low 90's from Nankervis along with the peace of mind he offers through his DPP.

Roughead offers no ruck cover, if you pick him you're picking him for atleast 90 and banking on him missing no games. You pick him as a keeper. He also didn't set the world on fire with his preseason - certainly looked as if he's been out of the game for a while.

 

[poido]

The guy hasn't played footy for a year, and he wasn't exactly spending his time in the gym. He is also 30 now, so it isn't inconceivable to think he may be given a few more breaks whilst he gets back into it, and fair enough as well.

Had roughead all preseason, but have now decided he's out.

Who knows if they will look to manage his unique situation and something serious like cancer, you would imagine the club will take a very cautious approach with roughy. Football is second in this case.

 

[Papa Caz]

Question ....in the absence of true rookies at rookie prices, won't you have difficulty generating enough money quick enough to upgrade to premiums ???

That's my debate as to whether i hold my F4 premo, or downgrade to two x $200K rookies ....Taranto & WHE???

Well since I posted this I have gone and changed my mind only have 2 premos + nank up forward then the rest rookies, also changed witts to grundy in my ruck

 

[Souup]

I agree
Stay away from that scrub
Greene is shit
Worst SC forward pick this




ty

Absolutely love the Greene pick- had him in my side for a while before getting rid of him for Lynch who I think is less likely to miss games. Definitely be looking to get Greene in as one of my first upgrades though if he's looking as good as I expect he will

 

[WaynesWorld19]

The main reason I'm picking Nankervis is he offers ruck cover for Sandilands. In addition to this there's no reason to suspect he'll miss games and he had a stellar preseason. Im happy with low 90's from Nankervis along with the peace of mind he offers through his DPP.

Roughead offers no ruck cover, if you pick him you're picking him for atleast 90 and banking on him missing no games. You pick him as a keeper. He also didn't set the world on fire with his preseason - certainly looked as if he's been out of the game for a while.

Question: Are you picking Nankervis due to his price ? ......or his scoring capacity?

If it's price, is that a good reason, given PS form is notoriously a bad indicator of season proper ? .......just playing Devils Advocate

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Well since I posted this I have gone and changed my mind only have 2 premos + nank up forward then the rest rookies, also changed witts to grundy in my ruck

Gee huge risk ......from what i'm seeing the forward Rookies are the thinest of any zone

 

[MightyMark]

With knowing that, you would be mad not to start with Riewoldt for the first half of the season with his track record at Etihad and a guaranteed 100+

The guy is a gun, no doubting that, but at almost 35 I am shocked he is still up and going at his size.

I just keep thinking this is the year he slows down, he had to carry the team last year, but those younger guys will be able to hold their own better now, so you wonder whether or not he will take it a bit easier.

 

[Papa Caz]

Gee huge risk ......from what i'm seeing the forward Rookies are the thinest of any zone

Well they aren't all technically rookies my mistake, the rest under 200k I should say, hoskin Elliot, Taranto, eddy

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Well they aren't all technically rookies my mistake, the rest under 200k I should say, hoskin Elliot, Taranto, eddy

My problem, whilst i like Taranto and WHE ....is that they won't Moo as quickly, but they'll most likely score reasonable

But does their price and lack of $$$$appreciation, ultimately put your season ($50K) at risk ?