2017 Ladder Predictions

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1. Geelong
2. Adelaide
3. Hawthorn
4. Sydney
5. Bulldogs
6. Saints
7. GWS
8. Melbourne
9. Essendon
10. West Coast
11. Fremantle
12. Port
13. Gold Coast
14. Carlton
15. Pies
16. Lions
17. North
18. Richmond

GF: Sydney v GWS
Premiers: ?
Brownlow: Bob Murphy
Coleman: Lynch (Gold Coast)
Rising Star: Pick 17 National Draft.
 
1. Sydney
2. GWS
3. Bulldogs
4. Adelaide
5. Geelong
6. Hawthorn
7. Port
8. St Kilda

9. Collingwood
10. West Coast
11. North Melbourne
12. Essendon
13. Gold Coast
14. Carlton
15. Melbourne
16. Richmond
17. Brisbane
18. Fremantle

Premier: Sydney
Runner up: GWS
Coleman: Franklin
 
Before trades and fixture (lol how sad is that. we cant give an accurate ladder until we see who gets what double ups).
I reckon 7th to 12th all finish on either 12 or 11 wins. Top 6 are very close again this season (Swans on 17 wins and Hawks on 15).

1. Sydney (still have the makings of a great team)
2. GWS (they will be even better this year)
3. Bulldogs (again the bulldogs will improve)
4. Fremantle (funny feeling 2015 was a calculated tank + key injuries)
5. Adelaide (good but teams above them better)
6. Hawthorn (still thereabouts but no flag)
7. Collingwood (top 8 list finally gets it together)
8. Melbourne (out first week but what a ride)
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9. Geelong (my 'out there' tip, dont rate scott)
10. Port Adelaide (unlucky again port)
11. St Kilda (unlucky again saints)
12. Essendon (win a few against top 8, lose a few against bottom 6)
13. West Coast (no NN, average midfield and teams around us are better)
14. Carlton (unlucky, beats swans @ SCG for belief next yr)
15. Richmond (hardwick gone)
16. Gold Coast (rodney eade gone and player exodus)
17. North Melbourne (well and truly on the slide, scott probably gone)
18. Brisbane (will take a few years to clean the place up)

GF: Bulldogs vs Fremantle
Premiers: Bulldogs, Hawks dynasty ends as the bullies begins
Brownlow: Nathan Fyfe
Coleman: Lance Franklin (kicks 100th in finals playing closer to goal)
News Headline: Swans fan cracks head open running onto field for Buddy's 100th
 

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What's with this Roos anger towards the Dogs?

It's really weird.

Maybe I'll pick a random club to dislike

There was some strange hate between the two clubs in gameday threads all year. Not by all fans of both teams, but by enough that the gameday threads of each were unbearable at times. I'm unsure how it began to be honest, I am quite fond of the Dogs.
 
Presented by the vibe.

1 Western Bulldogs
2 Collingwood
3 Sydney
4 GWS
5 Geelong
6 St Kilda
7 Adelaide
8 Melbourne
9 Gold Coast
10 West Coast
11 Hawthorn
12 Essendon
13 Fremantle
14 North Melbourne
15 Carlton
16 Port Adelaide
17 Brisbane
18 Richmond


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1- GWS
2- Bulldogs
3- Sydney
4- Hawthorn
5- St Kilda
6- Geelong
7- Adelaide
8- West Coast
9- Collingwood
10- Melbourne
11 - North Melbourne
12 - Essendon
13 - Carlton
14- Port Adelaide
15- Richmond
16- Gold Coast
17- Fremantle
18- Brisbane

GF: St Kilda vs Hawthorn
Premier: Hawthorn
Brownlow: Luke Parker (SYD)
Coleman: Kennedy (WC)
 
Thought I should have a crack at this with something to look back on. Very confident with my top 2.

1 GWS - will win 2017 flag at half pace. The PF will burn an already excellent team.
2 Bulldogs - with less injuries next year won't have to do it from 7th. They are seriously good and only a hangover will stop them being near a GF.
3 Sydney
4 Geelong
5 St Kilda - big improvers
6 Melbourne - big improvers
7 West Coast - a good Bulldogs team made them look worse than they are but Nic Nat missing could hurt.
8 Essendon - could finish anywhere really but I think will play with a real determination and do well.

9 Collingwood
10 Hawthorn
11 Adelaide - severely overrated. Injuries would bury them.
12 Carlton - wanted to put them higher but the depth of good teams next year seems decent.
13 Fremantle
14 Gold Coast
15 Port Adelaide
16 North Melb - seems harsh, probably is.
17 Richmond
18 Brisbane
Injuries would bury us? Our depth has never been better. Apart from probably a KPD we have good depth in all positions. Hilarious.
 
Not that i don't rate them.
I just don't think they are a certainty to go back to back or even top 4.
Like others have said this flag felt very early for this group.
Teams will put work into the Dogs next year and figure you out.
Not to mention premiership hangover.
Everyone said that about us for this season :rolleyes:o_O we were the new Port Adelaide bla bla bla

Get back Murph, Cramers and trade in Cloke, hopefully Wallis comes back early enough to make an impact also

Won the VFL Flag also in an injury riddled season, means we have serious depth even though we are relatively inexperienced

Plenty of improvement left in us, but you keep that chip on your shoulder, good boy :cool:
 
Obvious bolter for 2017 is the pies. For all the crap they've copped this year, have a look at their record against the top 8 in 2016 -

Geelong - destroyed them

Gws - destroyed them at spotless

Eagles - very competitive 1st time round at subi despite final score line, and beat them comfortably at G 2nd time around

Dogs - had them on the rack 1st time round until injuries left pies with no rotations at all for last quarter and still only overrun in last 15 mins. Then lost to them by couple of pts in one of the games of the season

Crows - ultra competitive in close loss at Adelaide oval when crows were in a real purple patch

Roos - gave up a 6 goal start and scared the life out of them late

Hawks - 1pt loss

Swans - only genuinely poor effort against a top 8 side

So, their best is very very good. It is a matter of producing it more consistently . Less injuries, and Jamie Elliott actually playing a game will help that aspect. Could easily be top 4 in 2017
Captain peanut alright.
 
Injuries would bury us? Our depth has never been better. Apart from probably a KPD we have good depth in all positions. Hilarious.
Quality midfields do you guys in, seen with Sydney and Geelong this year for example of two teams who dismantled you guys, West Coast did it also when theirs all clicked that Friday night

No doubt you are a top 6 team though but imo you lack 2 decent mids


Where your team is currently I can see a team like Gold Coast getting to eventually if they keep everyone fit, but some hard edged players would help both teams imo
 
Quality midfields do you guys in, seen with Sydney and Geelong this year for example of two teams who dismantled you guys, West Coast did it also when theirs all clicked that Friday night

No doubt you are a top 6 team though but imo you lack 2 decent mids


Where your team is currently I can see a team like Gold Coast getting to eventually if they keep everyone fit, but some hard edged players would help both teams imo
Not denying we need a better midfield but when one has gone down this year someone has come in and done a job (Cam Ellis-Yolmen on 2 occasions). Thompson is a dinosaur so we need 2 quality mids and we'd be close to a GF appearance. Still, our midfield depth is very good.
 

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Not denying we need a better midfield but when one has gone down this year someone has come in and done a job (Cam Ellis-Yolmen on 2 occasions). Thompson is a dinosaur so we need 2 quality mids and we'd be close to a GF appearance. Still, our midfield depth is very good.
I think you guys have plenty of guys who can play outside/flank/rotation roles like with your HBF types who push up on a wing etc, but the inside seems a little light for me, that's all


Yep, CEY is a solid depth type, would like to see him get more of a run
 
I think you guys have plenty of guys who can play outside/flank/rotation roles like with your HBF types who push up on a wing etc, but the inside seems a little light for me, that's all


Yep, CEY is a solid depth type, would like to see him get more of a run
Probably won't be at the club next year tbh. Not enough opportunity.
 
1. GWS
2. Bulldogs
3. Sydney
4. Adelaide
5. Geelong
6. St Kilda
7. Collingwood
8. Essendon

9. Melbourme
10. Hawthorn
11. Port Adelaide
12. West Coast
13 Richmond
14. Gold Coast
15. Fremantle
16. North Melbourne
17. Carlton
18. Brisbane

GWS vs Adelaide - GWS by 34
Bulldogs vs Sydney - Bulldogs by 20
Geelong vs Essendon - Geelong by 35
St Kilda vs Collingwood - St Kilda by 6

Adelaide vs Geelong - Geelong by 23
Sydney vs St Kilda - Sydney by 55

GWS vs Sydney - GWS by 12
Bulldogs vs Geelong - Geelong by 10

GWS vs Geelong - GWS by 30

Premiers: GWS
Runners up: Geelong
Coleman: Lynch (GC)
Norm Smith: Callan Ward
Brownlow: Bontempelli


Not sure what made me laugh more. WC at 12 or Essendon at 8.
 
Certainly looks that way
Probably does because I honestly can't tell from this far out what team will be where. We will have a better gauge once the trade period, draft and NAB Challenge games are done I'd say.

Even then it will be just guessing.
 
Not going to do a ladder but groups

GWS
Bulldogs
These 2 a long way ahead of the rest.

Adelaide
Sydney
Geelong
Melbourne
Will fight out for 3-6.

Hawthorn
West coast
St.Kilda
Gold Coast
Port Adelaide
Fight for last 2 spots in the 8

Carlton
North
Fremantle
Essendon
Collingwood
Richmond
Can't see any of these making the 8


Brisbane
Last
 
Injuries would bury us? Our depth has never been better. Apart from probably a KPD we have good depth in all positions. Hilarious.

What rubbish. Your midfield is terrible, if the Crouch brothers is where the midfield depth is after Sloane you're in huge trouble, defence and attack is quite good and keeps you competitive but you need everyone fit and on the park and still didn't crack top 4.
2016 was a dream run for the crows.

You should trade players with currency like Jenkins or Lynch for some more midfielders.
 
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